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skeeter33418 said:
I dont think Hart will do anything soon. The Sal hire was heavily influenced by Hart and growing pains were expected on defense. We've scored what, 100 points in 3 sec games and have 0 wins? The offense is playing fairly well even if we are throwing 30-40 yard fly patterns on third and one.
Not sounding good on Lane. More will come out on him later today.
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Too bad on Lane. I concur on the offense, too. You can debate certain calls at certain times, but on a whole, it's been really good. Our defense has been an utter nightmare, however.
 
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chavisut said:
Yes, hence my edit.
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Simply put, why is it unreasonable for CDD to see a 4th year (assuming he'll obtain 7 wins this year, year 3)? The argument is that Spurrier was at USCjr for six years before even being relevant in the SEC East picture. The reply initally was that he's a proven commodity. Shouldn't his expectations have been even greater?

I'm going to assume that your reply will include that he took over a basement-dwelling program that never won in the SEC. Well, IMO, the state of that program was not in worse shape that UT's. IMHO, they aren't even comparable. Not having continuity in a program is miserable. Additonally, a new AD was imminent, player attrition, coaching turnover, pending NCAA investigations, etc.
 
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Bray will be fine for Saturday but will be sporting a knee brace. Neal is doubtful and Lane is probable.
 
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What is the status of our recruiting class this year so far? I know we have more depth and talent on the field this year, but it seems like we are always undermanned and slower than the Bamas, UGA's, UF's, and USCe's we play. Are we bringing in the players to keep up?
 
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LynxVol said:
Simply put, why is it unreasonable for CDD to see a 4th year (assuming he'll obtain 7 wins this year, year 3)? The argument is that Spurrier was at USCjr for six years before even being relevant in the SEC East picture. The reply initally was that he's a proven commodity. Shouldn't his expectations have been even greater?

I'm going to assume that your reply will include that he took over a basement-dwelling program that never won in the SEC. Well, IMO, the state of that program was not in worse shape that UT's. IMHO, they aren't even comparable. Not having continuity in a program is miserable. Additonally, a new AD was imminent, player attrition, coaching turnover, pending NCAA investigations, etc.
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Ohio State has a third HC in as many years, how they doing? Penn State will be lucky to win a game with all that instability around the program right?

You don't think Spurrier had player attrition. Every new coach does. Also, SCe had LESS talent when he took over.
 
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I'm truly 50/50 on Dooley ATP, he's done some good things while being here so far & with all the circumstances that have went on I believe he should still get 1 more year as long as we finish at least 7-5. But I can also the reasoning to fire him.

I think what may/could force Harts hand is what will attendance be like this Saturday & through Nov., the '08 Bama game did Fulmer in when their fans took over Neyland. If we lose these next 2 games there may not be 90,000 show up for the Troy game.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
I'm truly 50/50 on Dooley ATP, he's done some good things while being here so far & with all the circumstances that have went on I believe he should still get 1 more year as long as we finish at least 7-5. But I can also the reasoning to fire him.

I think what may/could force Harts hand is what will attendance be like this Saturday & through Nov., the '08 Bama game did Fulmer in when their fans took over Neyland. If we lose these next 2 games there may not be 90,000 show up for the Troy game.
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Much, much less than 90k
 
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Neal's injury is an ankle sprain. Lane has a knee sprain. Bray has a mild knee sprain from what we are told. Lane's injury is worse than Bray's or Neal's.

Maggitt is bothered by the toe and now a shoulder. He will continue to be limited this week.
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- Hubbs
 
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Ron Swanson said:
In years 4 and 5 he only had 7 wins and L's in both bowl games. Year 6 before 9 wins and that was with another bowl loss. Year 7 before double digit wins. Takes time to rebuild dumpster fires, doesn't it?
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Spurrier had 5 wins against ranked teams in his first 3 years. How many does Dooley have? Not to mention it is much harder to recruit and get big time players to USCe than UT.
 
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chavisut said:
Please. Spurrier took over a program that had won 16 games the previous three years, was coming off what was essentially a self enforced bowl ban, and had never even sniffed an SEC title game.
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Think about the pressure that was on DD here.
Spurrier was "the savior" of USCe

DD had to pretty much forfeit a recruiting class (LKs) i think 3 players survived from it? (correct me if im wrong)

SC's in state talent is probably a (B or B+) as oppose to tennessee's (C- or D+) even though it is getting better.
 
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chavisut said:
Ohio State has a third HC in as many years, how they doing? Penn State will be lucky to win a game with all that instability around the program right?

You don't think Spurrier had player attrition. Every new coach does. Also, SCe had LESS talent when he took over.
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You didn't answer my question.

Also, winning in the Big 10 is completely different. There is a different level of coaching and talent. Does CUM or O'Brien have to play top 15 teams week in and week out?

I really wish we had Indiana, Purdue, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Illinois on the schedule this year. Heck, I'd like to play Michigan, tOSU, and Nebraska over playing UF, UGA, Bama, and USCjr any freaking day.
 
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HankHill said:
Think about the pressure that was on DD here.
Spurrier was "the savior" of USCe

DD had to pretty much forfeit a recruiting class (LKs) i think 3 players survived from it? (correct me if im wrong)

SC's in state talent is probably a (B or B+) as oppose to tennessee's (C- or D+) even though it is getting better.
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SCe has a better instate talent base and that's about it when it comes to advantages over UT.
 
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LynxVol said:
Lulz.
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I agree with STL, but the coach has a lot to do with it.

Take a big name coach at a average program, you can get a few big time guys (especcially if they are in state, which SC has some)

But for the most part TN can and usually does Recruit better than SC no matter the coach
 
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We have a fan base that is predominantly made up of front runners. Our program was an absolute nuclear waste dumpster fire. Then fans expected to win big in just 3 years? Just because our school's name is Tennessee and the tradition of the program?

Some folks need a dose of reality.
 
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chavisut said:
SCe has a better instate talent base and that's about it when it comes to advantages over UT.
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And that makes it so much easier to rebuild in the SEC.

Look at the instate commits that are making impacts at SC compared to at UT in the past 4 years.

You have to rely on the instate guys and at UT you cannot do that. proven fact (hopefully next year that will change)
 
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