'13 JUCO DT Toby Johnson

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OCIVol said:
I think the bigger problem continues to be depth and lack of a senior class (left with the remnants of Kiffin's '09 class).
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People tend to forget that Dooley has basically been coaching without a senior class for three years now. We still don't really have a senior class. We've had seniors, and some good ones at that, but not exactly a senior class during his tenure here. Next year we will.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
It's a completely different level of playing field right now between the top programs in the SEC and Tennessee. Tennessee is just not recruiting at a high enough level IMO to be able to make a serious move up the SEC ladder. This year is their best chance IMO, I cant see how they'll have a better shot of doing it over the next 3-4 years. They aren't bringing in the players needed.
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Really don't see where people keep getting that. Dooley has had 3 top 15 recruiting classes according to Rivals if you count Phillips. Problem is not the talent level of recruits. Right now it's coaching. No more mulligans for Dooley & co. Time to win games.
 
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sanddune50 said:
Really don't see where people keep getting that. Dooley has had 3 top 15 recruiting classes according to Rivals if you count Phillips. Problem is not the talent level of recruits. Right now it's coaching. No more mulligans for Dooley & co. Time to win games.
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Why do people assume Top 15 is good enough? There's a MAJOR difference between top 5 (Alabama, LSU, Florida) and top 15.
 
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The problem is, we had a gap of a couple classes that were garbage.. We don't have RS juniors and seniors that are stars like the bamas and lsu's... We have 3 good classes that are really contributing.. They have 4-6.. It takes time guys..
 
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ACvol3 said:
The problem is, we had a gap of a couple classes that were garbage.. We don't have RS juniors and seniors that are stars like the bamas and lsu's... We have 3 good classes that are really contributing.. They have 4-6.. It takes time guys..
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See it... They can't
 
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ACvol3 said:
The problem is, we had a gap of a couple classes that were garbage.. We don't have RS juniors and seniors that are stars like the bamas and lsu's... We have 3 good classes that are really contributing.. They have 4-6.. It takes time guys..
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Very good points.
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ACvol3 said:
The problem is, we had a gap of a couple classes that were garbage.. We don't have RS juniors and seniors that are stars like the bamas and lsu's... We have 3 good classes that are really contributing.. They have 4-6.. It takes time guys..
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Top 15 still isn't good enough to win the SEC. Period. I don't care what anyone says. Especially with the coaching staff we have.

We're not going to out-coach anyone of significance, and we can't out-talent anyone of significance.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Top 15 still isn't good enough to win the SEC. Period. I don't care what anyone says. Especially with the coaching staff we have.

We're not going to out-coach anyone of significance, and we can't out-talent anyone of significance.
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Cool story, bro. Haters are located in the football forum. Feel free to join.
 
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ACvol3 said:
The problem is, we had a gap of a couple classes that were garbage.. We don't have RS juniors and seniors that are stars like the bamas and lsu's... We have 3 good classes that are really contributing.. They have 4-6.. It takes time guys..
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Exactly!
 
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LynxVol said:
Cool story, bro. Haters are located in the football forum. Feel free to join.
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Kingston has taken over for Jmoore as the most negative guy on the site.

And that's not a knock on jmoore. He's actually been pretty positive and optimistic about this season.
 
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V4L said:
Kingston has taken over for Jmoore as the most negative guy on the site.

And that's not a knock on jmoore. He's actually been pretty positive and optimistic about this season.
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He said nothing that was untrue. We won't out coach them so we will have to out athlete them by a lot...and we aren't.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Top 15 still isn't good enough to win the SEC. Period. I don't care what anyone says. Especially with the coaching staff we have.

We're not going to out-coach anyone of significance, and we can't out-talent anyone of significance.
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It's a slower process in this league.. U win more games each season, and it gets a little easier each time to recruit.. Recruits that caliber want to go to a school that's hot and winning.. It will get easier and easier.. Dooleys not blowin smoke up our a$$es when he says its a process.. It really is.. Win, recruit, win more, recruit more... We r on our way.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
He said nothing that was untrue. We won't out coach them so we will have to out athlete them by a lot...and we aren't.
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It's more than that one post that makes him negative.

And how do you expect to "out athlete" teams when we've had such horrific attrition over the last few years?
 
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V4L said:
It's more than that one post that makes him negative.

And how do you expect to "out athlete" teams when we've had such horrific attrition over the last few years?
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We have more scholarship players than Georgia. Dooley's "first class" is in their junior year. I fully expect next year's team to be productive if he is here. ZERO excuses. I expect us to out coach a team or two but that won't happen and with the mediocre(SEC wise) recruiting I don't "expect" us to out athlete anyone in this league.
 
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OCIVol said:
I think the bigger problem continues to be depth and lack of a senior class (left with the remnants of Kiffin's '09 class).
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I believe Dooley really hurt himself when Fall Camp was underway and he started talking about "for the first time I really feel good about this team" and said that finally we will be able to go head to head with anybody. He also went on to talk about how good it was to have depth across the board.

By saying that, he encouraged expectations among the fan base to go sky high and every one was drinking the "Dool-ade". All of that before we even played a single down against a real opponent so our fans began the season with unrealistically high expectations -- and that came back to bite him in the butt when we lost to Florida.

While a lot of what he said was true, the place where he most exaggerated was when he spoke about our depth.

Yes, for the first time since Dooley has been here we have warm bodies to back up our starters, and some of them have SEC level talent, but for the most part there is a significant drop-off between our starters and the second unit. That is not the case with the top teams in our conference -- Alabama, LSU, Georgia, and to a lesser extent even Florida all have a two and even three deep that are equally talented as their starters.

We are probably two years away from attaining that level of talent, strength, and experience in our backups across the board. We have not attained the level where we are on a level playing field with the elite yet, but we are making huge strides in that direction.

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V4L said:
Kingston has taken over for Jmoore as the most negative guy on the site.

And that's not a knock on jmoore. He's actually been pretty positive and optimistic about this season.
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He'll be ok. *Smokie voice* He just cried in the car after the Florida game.
 
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