What Buck Fitzgerald said

#177
#177
justingroves said:
Yes, that OL dominated opponents in 2008. Cutcliffe resorted to three step drops and 4 yard curls in 2007 to protect Ainge. Great OL I tell you.

Teams knew if they scored 10 points on Tennessee they could run it for 3 quarters and go home.
Click to expand...

So Jacques Mcclendon and Chris Scott weren't good? I guess you know more than NFL scouts, considering they got drafted. Aaron Douglas was wanted by Saban too, so I guess he sucked also.

Not at all, the defense was much better. The defense in 2008 played much better than UT's defense in 2009.
 
#180
#180
StlCardinals2618 said:
So Jacques Mcclendon and Chris Scott weren't good? I guess you know more than NFL scouts, considering they got drafted. Aaron Douglas was wanted by Saban too, so I guess he sucked also.
Click to expand...

It's kind of hard to have an effective line with multiple walk ons.


Not at all, the defense was much better. The defense in 2008 played much better than UT's defense in 2009.
Click to expand...
The defense played better against Georgia, Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, and UCLA in 2009.

The 2008 team did fine shutting down the crap teams Tennessee played, but it didn't do much at all against the teams that actually mattered. The fact that the 2009 team could actually score had something to do with the fact that more points were scored against them. The 2009 team gave up 28 garbage points to Memphis after going up 56-0. The 2008 team probably would have beaten them 10-7. That doesn't mean the 2008 team had an elite defense. All the injuries and lack of depth had a big part in the increase in points in 2009, too.
 
#182
#182
StlCardinals2618 said:
So Jacques Mcclendon and Chris Scott weren't good? I guess you know more than NFL scouts, considering they got drafted. Aaron Douglas was wanted by Saban too, so I guess he sucked also.

Not at all, the defense was much better. The defense in 2008 played much better than UT's defense in 2009.
Click to expand...

They were poorly coached underachievers under Fulmer. I never said they were bad.

Most of the time, there is a slight drop off when a team learns a new defense or starts a walk on at MLB. The 2008 D also had the fortune teams not worrying about scoring more than 14 points.
 
#184
#184
To use nick stephens as an example of kiffin messing up is silly. Stephens wasn't going to do diddly here, and morley failed too many drug tests.
 
#188
#188
Let's whine a little more about the past.

Hey jg, I was on the sideline for your boy kiffins game at ole miss.
Now continue to bash the present coach about a team quitting when your boy had it happen midseason in one year.
Or throw another comment about momma Dooley. Taking aim at old women shows great character.

Weak is weak.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#189
#189
tvolsfan said:
It's kind of hard to have an effective line with multiple walk ons.


The defense played better against Georgia, Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, and UCLA in 2009.

The 2008 team did fine shutting down the crap teams Tennessee played, but it didn't do much at all against the teams that actually mattered. The fact that the 2009 team could actually score had something to do with the fact that more points were scored against them. The 2009 team gave up 28 garbage points to Memphis after going up 56-0. The 2008 team probably would have beaten them 10-7. That doesn't mean the 2008 team had an elite defense. All the injuries and lack of depth had a big part in the increase in points in 2009, too.
Click to expand...

Having a veteran line can easily make up for the Sullins brothers. The Sullins weren't as bad as people thought, and they could work around the Sullins bros, plus they still were in an elite workout program for over 4 years.

UGA had Matt Stafford and a much better team in 2008 than 2009. Those aren't comparable. UGA in 08 went 10-3 compared to the 8-5 UGA team that lost to UK.

2009 played better against Bama than 08

Florida- UT in 08 allowed 100 less yards than UT in 09. UT had 3 turnovers and allowed a punt return which killed the game for them. Tebow didn't even pass for over 100 yards.

UCLA- UT got 4 picks against UCLA in 08 compared to one turnover in 09. UCLA had more yards against UT in 08 than 09.

South Carolina- The defense in 08 allowed 100 less yards, but the 09 team had 4 turnovers, including 3 fumbles.

Turnovers and special teams killed the defense in 08. They were a very good unit.
 
#190
#190
Spartacavolus said:
Let's whine a little more about the past.

Hey jg, I was on the sideline for your boy kiffins game at ole miss.
Now continue to bash the present coach about a team quitting when your boy had it happen midseason in one year.
Or throw another comment about momma Dooley. Taking aim at old women shows great character.

Weak is weak.
Click to expand...

One game or 8 games? Which is worse?

When a loudmouthed Paula Deen impersonator puts herself in the public eye, people shouldn't get upset when they get made fun of.
 
#191
#191
cutnitclose said:
I would be more than happy with 8 wins after all of the things that have happened over the last 4 or 5 years (of course I want more though)..

There aren't very many year 3s like the year 3 that CDD and crew are going into this year....
Click to expand...

A year three with a lot of returning starters, many two year starters, with a first round QB throwing to two NFLers on the edges?
 
#192
#192
justingroves said:
One game or 8 games? Which is worse?

When a loudmouthed Paula Deen impersonator puts herself in the public eye, people shouldn't get upset when they get made fun of.
Click to expand...

No one can argue that players would rather play for Kiffin than Dooley, right now especially. Kiffin is a player's coach and relates to the kids much better than Dooley. Kiffin knew how to get players pumped up.
 
#194
#194
justingroves said:
One game or 8 games? Which is worse?

When a loudmouthed Paula Deen impersonator puts herself in the public eye, people shouldn't get upset when they get made fun of.
Click to expand...

You've been talking about her for over a year. It reeks of some odd obsession. Never heard anyone worry about her so much. Hell, I haven't heard her in months but you bring her up weekly.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#196
#196
both years we played ucla, we quit running the ball.the team also quit on lane in the vt game or, they were out coached.
 
#197
#197
Spartacavolus said:
You've been talking about her for over a year. It reeks of some odd obsession. Never heard anyone worry about her so much. Hell, I haven't heard her in months but you bring her up weekly.
Click to expand...

Making things up so you can white knight. You must live an exciting life.
 
#198
#198
chavisut said:
Who brought up Kiffin?
Click to expand...

Just in case people forget:

sjt18 said:
No. But the sour attitude is a choice not a compulsion.

Kiffin who justin seemed to be OK with had alot to do with the roster problems that hurt the Vols last year. The class he finished from Fulmer's last season was a complete bust. They should have been JR's leading the team.
Click to expand...
 
#199
#199
loggervol said:
both years we played ucla, we quit running the ball.the team also quit on lane in the vt game or, they were out coached.
Click to expand...

The team didn't quit, it was terrible playcalling offensively. I have never seen so many failed screens in my life. That is all UT tried that game. To make matter worse, I had to walk back to my hotel being hounded by UGA fans. It was emabarrassing.
 
#200
#200
StlCardinals2618 said:
No one can argue that players would rather play for Kiffin than Dooley, right now especially. Kiffin is a player's coach and relates to the kids much better than Dooley. Kiffin knew how to get players pumped up.
Click to expand...

I would say that kind of settles which coach is better
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement





Back
Top