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#76
#76
therealUT said:
Heading into the '97 season, the Heisman was Peyton's to lose. He lost it against Florida.

There were no other real front runners. Woodson took the lead with the return to put the OSU game away. The voters could not award Manning, since he almost single handedly threw away his teams title hopes, when everyone in the nation had UT as a title front runner heading in to the season.
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I thought football was 11-on-11, but I guess not!
 
#81
#81
Champ Bailey also put up substantially better numbers in 1998 than Woodson did in 1997. Of course, no one had him as a Heisman candidate.

(Coming from a native Ohioan).....Manning was robbed, plain and simple. The media started looking for the "new guy" to put their stock into. It's no different than every year before the NFL draft how a guy who's a consensus top player suddenly starts plummeting for no reason at all (or a ridiculous reason). Someone else emerges from nowhere and puts up nice numbers or something stupid and suddenly he's the next big thing.

So Ryan Leaf, Mike Mamula, and soon to be Jamarcus Russell....take note.
 
#87
#87
tvolsfan said:
Something that happened that long before doesn't really help your argument.
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I didn't know the definition of outstanding changed over the years. The bottom line is: this is a yankee award, they are going to find a way to give it to a yankee if there is a high profile player not from the midwest or north to give it to. They don't like to see the south do good things.
 
#90
#90
C'mon, someone bust out the rehashed snobby junk about "clutch play" or "stuff that can't be measured in numbers".
 
#91
#91
The Dude said:
I didn't know the definition of outstanding changed over the years. The bottom line is: this is a yankee award, they are going to find a way to give it to a yankee if there is a high profile player not from the midwest or north to give it to. They don't like to see the south do good things.
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So I guess Ricky Williams wasn't real. Neither was Eric Crouch. Carson Palmer played up north as did Lienart and Bush.
 
#93
#93
The Dude said:
I didn't know the definition of outstanding changed over the years. The bottom line is: this is a yankee award, they are going to find a way to give it to a yankee if there is a high profile player not from the midwest or north to give it to. They don't like to see the south do good things.
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So, USC is a "yankee" school?
 
#100
#100
therealUT,

What's your point? It doesn't prove in any way, shape, or form who the better quarterback is over a career or in a single game.
 
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