'12 SC WR Quinshad Davis

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RockyTopForMe said:
Grades don't reflect on ACT scores. 4.0 for me, 28 on ACT. 4.2 classmate, 24 ACT, 3.9 classmate, 15 ACT.
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ACT is a load of crap, IMO. Not everyone was meant to take a timed test. (Coming from someone projected to make a 28-32 according to the ACT Plan)
 
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govols/cc said:
Take a break? Why? Because there are conflicting reports on his GPA? Who really cares I stated from the start I wasn't sure of his grades but the rest there is no doubt.

Quinshad Davis: 2011 SC Gatorade POY
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The article does state he has a 3.41. Did you guys consider that what he said was that he had a 4.1 in honors classes? Could that simply mean that he has done well in his honors classes and made a few B's elsewhere??? Seems like everyone could be proven right here.
 
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govols/cc said:
Take a break? Why? Because there are conflicting reports on his GPA? Who really cares I stated from the start I wasn't sure of his grades but the rest there is no doubt.

Quinshad Davis: 2011 SC Gatorade POY
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Your response to my post about the GPA was pretty condescending and you were quickly proven wrong. If you didn't know the grades why fire back when somebody that did have evidence gave it you?
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volshogs said:
The article does state he has a 3.41. Did you guys consider that what he said was that he had a 4.1 in honors classes? Could that simply mean that he has done well in his honors classes and made a few B's elsewhere??? Seems like everyone could be proven right here.
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That is possible but that would be extremely rare. Honors classes are harder and that GPA is almost always lower. The better explanation is the kid lied or his unweighted GPA is 3.4 and Weighted GPA a 4.1.
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iVol4Life said:
ACT is a load of crap, IMO. Not everyone was meant to take a timed test. (Coming from someone projected to make a 28-32 according to the ACT Plan)
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I'm sure you know this, but the idea of standardized testing is to provide standardization. How else do you think competition for academic scholarships/spots in college can be remotely fair? If my school is easy and grade inflation is prominent and I make a 4.0, it's not really fair to you if your school is hard, you actually have to earn an A, and you have a 3.2. You might be a good deal better student than I even though I have a higher GPA. The ACT can serve as a bit of a truth serum and equalizer. Think of it as a 40 time for nerds. You may be a starter for your HS team and I might be 3rd string, but if I run a 4.4 and you run a 4.9, I am the faster man and might deserve to be recruited more than you even though you are the starter at your locality.

GPA falls short of reflecting one's true academic prowess, as does the ACT, but the combination of the two is helpful in determining who has the goods academically and who does not.
 
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BruinVol said:
That is possible but that would be extremely rare. Honors classes are harder and that GPA is almost always lower. The better explanation is the kid lied or his unweighted GPA is 3.4 and Weighted GPA a 4.1.
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Indeed. Honors classes often receive a bump- in my high school, you got 8 points added onto your final grade if you were taking an AP honors class. I think we are agreeing here- I'm suggesting the possibility that he did better in honors classes because of a bump, not because they would be easier.

In any case, I was just trying to be a peacemaker. I couldn't give a rat's crap what some high school student's GPA is. Unless of course, it's my kid or someone I need to qualify to play at UT, or both!
 
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Speaking of nerds, let's get back to whether or not Mr. Quinshad Davis will be joining WR-U rather than arguing about what he made on his geometry test. :peace2:
 
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volshogs said:
Indeed. Honors classes often receive a bump- in my high school, you got 8 points added onto your final grade if you were taking an AP honors class. I think we are agreeing here- I'm suggesting the possibility that he did better in honors classes because of a bump, not because they would be easier.

In any case, I was just trying to be a peacemaker. I couldn't give a rat's crap what some high school student's GPA is. Unless of course, it's my kid or someone I need to qualify to play at UT, or both!
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Many schools will take a transcript that an honors student has and the GPA turns out much lower when unweighted. Meaning an A counts 5pts in an honors class instead of 4pt. Many Universities won't use that 5pts. That could be the case here.
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volshogs said:
I'm sure you know this, but the idea of standardized testing is to provide standardization. How else do you think competition for academic scholarships/spots in college can be remotely fair? If my school is easy and grade inflation is prominent and I make a 4.0, it's not really fair to you if your school is hard, you actually have to earn an A, and you have a 3.2. You might be a good deal better student than I even though I have a higher GPA. The ACT can serve as a bit of a truth serum and equalizer. Think of it as a 40 time for nerds. You may be a starter for your HS team and I might be 3rd string, but if I run a 4.4 and you run a 4.9, I am the faster man and might deserve to be recruited more than you even though you are the starter at your locality.

GPA falls short of reflecting one's true academic prowess, as does the ACT, but the combination of the two is helpful in determining who has the goods academically and who does not.
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IMO, the classes a student takes (Regular, Honors, or AP) and his or her grades in that class should be more important than ACT scores. JMO, though. I'm perfectly fine in both areas at this point.
 
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BruinVol said:
Your response to my post about the GPA was pretty condescending and you were quickly proven wrong. If you didn't know the grades why fire back when somebody that did have evidence gave it you?
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How the hell can you be proven wrong about something that you say you're not sure of to begin with. I simply said I heard they MAY be suspect but apparently are not. Are you trying to stroke your messageboard ego so much that you're gonna create you're own argument to prove somebody wrong that never said something to begin with. My god what a joke. Apparently there are other reasons he's not getting the attention you would think he would.
 
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BruinVol said:
Many schools will take a transcript that an honors student has and the GPA turns out much lower when unweighted. Meaning an A counts 5pts in an honors class instead of 4pt. Many Universities won't use that 5pts. That could be the case here.
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Agreed sir. I would just like for this guy to commit to Tennessee. I'll give that 5 pts!
 
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govols/cc said:
How the hell can you be proven wrong about something that you say you're not sure of to begin with. I simply said I heard they MAY be suspect but apparently are not. Are you trying to stroke your messageboard ego so much that you're gonna create you're own argument to prove somebody wrong that never said something to begin with. My god what a joke. Apparently there are other reasons he's not getting the attention you would think he would.
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I jumped into the middle of your discussion and you were defensive. I should have learned not to jump into the middle of discussions. My fault.
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iVol4Life said:
IMO, the classes a student takes (Regular, Honors, or AP) and his or her grades in that class should be more important than ACT scores. JMO, though. I'm perfectly fine in both areas at this point.
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I do not know where you live in Tennessee, but I assure you that it is much harder to get an A in a "regular" class at many higher end schools than it is to get an A in an "honors" class at many lower end schools. A lot depends on the caliber of school and the caliber of those you go to school with (same argument of taking the middle of the road Harvard guy vs the highly ranked guy from MTSU- MTSU guy might be much better but in general, Harvard has a higher percentage of top notch peeps). If you sit on an admissions committee, you have to have some sort of standardization so you can interpret people's grades. If you have someone apply with a 3.85 but they score 19 on the ACT, it probably means their grades are inflated and they aren't as good a student as their GPA reflects. Athletic ability pretty much works the same way in the 40 analogy.

I think we would agree though (and I think this is what you are trying to say) that the ACT does not necessarily reflect one's academic abilities to an admissions committee as much as their larger body of coursework might, and visa versa.
 
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EveryThingGreen said:
Yes, a cock fan.

If a kid is going to redshirt as a freshman, a greyshirt really isn't a bad option. He gets to enroll in January with 5 to play 4. Again, I don't think Quinshad will take the greyshirt but I wouldn't rule out USC not having a spot on signing day for him either.
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A player of his caliber isn't going to wait until NSD to see if he may have an offer. He will take the sure thing at the place he feels most comfortable, and has the best chance to contribute early. I'm still thinking Tennessee here.
 
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iVol4Life said:
ACT is a load of crap, IMO. Not everyone was meant to take a timed test. (Coming from someone projected to make a 28-32 according to the ACT Plan)
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Exactly, my projection was 30-34.
Took it 5 times, 28 3 times, 25, and 24.
Times mess up people that like to work through problems and re-check.
 
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It's not that bad. I took it once and got a 31 without problems. I'm not a timed test fan either.
 
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govols/cc said:
How the hell can you be proven wrong about something that you say you're not sure of to begin with. I simply said I heard they MAY be suspect but apparently are not. Are you trying to stroke your messageboard ego so much that you're gonna create you're own argument to prove somebody wrong that never said something to begin with. My god what a joke. Apparently there are other reasons he's not getting the attention you would think he would.
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I'm pretty sure that you're losing this argument regardless of the facts because you're coming off as an uninformed ass with an agenda. If you could actually admit fault it would go a long ways to making people dislike you less.
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
I'm pretty sure that you're losing this argument regardless of the facts because you're coming off as an uninformed ass with an agenda. If you could actually admit fault it would go a long ways to making people dislike you less.
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Admit fault for what? I stated some facts & threw in something I admitted was hearsay when I said it. Clowns on this messageboard are the ones that take it & run with it. FYI whether somebody likes or dislikes me on an Internet messageboard doesn't mean much to me. If somebody wants to claim victory over a phantom argument let them lol.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
You realize what you linked only talks about how great of guy and hard worker, preparation type guy he is right?
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Yea a politically correct write up is always accurate. Guess a kid has never been built up & then end up off a team for doing some dumb crap. Maybe he was just acting like a self centered ass that one time I saw him.
 
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