Update on Randy Shannon, DC

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Domestic Silence said:
...and if he wets the bed again next year?
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And if he doesn't?

The odds are that he won't. he has built a great foundation, and finally has a favorable schedule (still very tough, but by SEC standards, manageable), now it's time for the payoff.

volintears said:
can I borrow your crystal ball for the lottery tomorrow night:)
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it'll undoubtedly be more accurate (and based on fact) than you negavols' crystal ball guaranteeing Dooley was stepping down.

VOLup2uous said:
I remember RS at Miami and know he didn't stay long and now he isn't working, please educate me why he is a great hire.. I do think I remember his recruiting was great...
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I wondered the same thing till I checked out his history...

During Shannon's six years as UM's defensive coordinator, his defenses ranked as follows in total defense nationally:

* 2001 – 6th
* 2002 – 7th
* 2003 – 2nd
* 2004 – 28th
* 2005 – 4th
* 2006 – 7th

So while he's nothing special as a HC, he is lights out as DC. Of course, he had the thoroughbreds at Miami...but still, at least he is good enough to get production out of his players.

I like him as DC.
 
#104
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I guess all this hoopla means on Friday we find out our new DC is the guy from La Tech. This is Tennessee after all, I'm just saying.
 
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vol2013 said:
:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::

You are hillarious. Pete Carroll's success in the NFL :eek:lol:. You mean the guy that currently has a 47 and 48 record in the NFL. It is certainly not his NFl "resume" that made him attractive to recruits. It was his cheerleader like qualities that made him a great recruiter. Carroll struggles in the NFL because he is not an X's and O's guy. He succeeds in college because he is a great motivator, and does a great job at getting people excited about the program (offering a few extra benefits helps as well). Go back and look through interviews with recruits when he first got there. They were excited about the swagger and excitement that he was bringing to the program, not his nfl "resume" or more appropriately his lack there of. Where is any evidence that Lovie Smith has the same charisma? To your last point Mike Sherman have similar NFL resumes. With Mike Sherman being 57 and 39 through 6 seasons, and Lovie Smith being 71 and 57. Other than the year that that Franchione was fired Sherman and Franchione brought in very similar recruiting classes.
Second off, I know you like to ignore facts to fit your agenda, but the staff defections as you call them do not leave dooley's status in question. Sirmon and Wilcox wanted to go back home out west is is as simple as that. It is tough to keep west coast coaches and corrdinators away from there. There have been many pac12 coaches and coordinators in the past that have had the opportunity for bigger programs, yet have turned the down to stay on the west coast.
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You have a really hard time with reading comprehension, don't you? I never said Carroll was a success at the NFL level. I said he is an example that an NFL coach can succeed at the college level.

Smith was a position coach here. He knows the recruiting involved and knows the SEC, etc. so it's not like he doesn't understand the coaching responsibilities within a college program.
 
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DocVol said:
I came into some information from a good friend of mine who is one of the bigger UT boosters. This is what he told me earlier this evening at dinner regarding the DC situation:

-Dooley has known for a better part of a year that JW would leave for the first PAC-12 job that came available. It was always expected that Simon would follow. However, this all started to become reality two days after Christmas when Washington started showing interested and contacted the UT AD about JW.

-Since then, Dooley (and Hart) have worked to compile a list of replacement DC candidates. Sirmon's spot will be left vacant for the time being to accommodate additional staff the new DC may want to bring in, with Dooley's approval.

-Steele was definitely Dooley's first choice, but Hart didn't feel it was a good fit nor the big time hire that was needed. As he explained it to me, Hart did not want a band-aid just to get through next season, which is how it was described that Steele would be.

-Shannon was a close second and Hart's number 1 choice. Hart made it clear to Dooley that funds would be available to secure him, as it would take "a considerable salary," for the Shannon hire.

-JW informed Dooley on New Years Eve that he would be taking the UW job. Sirmon followed suit the next day. Both were accommodating and offered any assistance to help with the search/transition for the next few days. He's not sure if they were utilized or what they provided but said they were very gracious and accommodating.

-Baring any unforeseen event, Randy Shannon will be the new DC. He and the university have agreed (in principal--not official) through their lawyers to a multi year deal worth over $1million/year plus incentives. Despite Hart's comments on multi year deals, he is treating each coach on a coach by coach basis. Since Shannon is "his guy," it is assumed that there is some leeway on his original comments about multi year contracts for NEW hires.

-Expect an announcement by "late Friday or early Monday," depending on contract finalization.

-He was not sure if Shannon was on campus today, as was rumored.

-There was no team meeting as far as he could tell and so the Palardy tweet, he assumes, comes from Palardy's family being connected to a few high ranking names at the university. There was never an announcement made to the team that caused Palardy tweet what he did. He obtained the information from other means, but still accurate.

That's the latest and greatest. Should be all but a done deal.
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Truly awesome post!! I hope it's true!!!!
 
#114
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Why wait until Friday or Monday? If true then get the news out there now! This is a great time with all the all-star games going on and all the negative media that's been going on... JMO
 
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Negateer said:
Dooley's gonna be here for fifteen years. he's about to bust out with a big season. He's EXACTLY the type of coach we need, one who is here to build a program out of the ashes.

You need to get used to him.
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I'm pretty much used to him...not used to all the losing yet though.
 
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tenn_opie said:
So how credible is the OP? i just don't want to get too excited again (like i did last night) and drink till 3am talking to my wife about how great this going to be.......well i may just do that again for the hell of it!!!:rock::dance2:


but seriously....how credible is OP?
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You might as well get a keg.
 
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This info from DocVol sure does match up very well with what SpringBokVol said a couple of days ago that both sides had a verbal understanding, and lawyers and agents were involved now finalizing all of the paperwork. The numbers also match exactly what stopit28 said about the deal was as good as done with a 5 year $1 million/year contract. Add this in to the tweet from Palardy...hmmmmm. Only news from the Steele front was that OCIVol said he was hearing that Steele and Brooks coming to UT looked more likely than Shannon.
 
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SLOBBER_KNOCKER_U said:
Thank God Hamilton isn't here and Hart is. I agree with Hart on this decision. It's time to get the BEST staff possible and compete for championships. I love Hart's attitude...But let's just hope that this is true!
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Hart = Foley Which is a great thing

Hamilton = Bozo not talking about the guy who has a radio show but the clown.
 
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#122
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DocVol said:
...-Baring any unforeseen event, Randy Shannon will be the new DC
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And so, rightly, we wait with bated breath, fingers and toes crossed, nervously checking news sources by the hour until Friday or Monday. Ah, it's great to be a Tennessee Vol! Little tough on the ticker for us old geezers, but still great. :unsure:
 
#123
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Domestic Silence said:
Legitimate question.

If true, what happens if Dooley ass blows another season and we have Shannon inked on a MY deal? We're stuck with RS as a head coach, or have to spend more money that the sunshine pumpers say we don't have to buy him out too, if another HC were to be hired?
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If Randy Shannon is who we think he is the next HC will be tickled pink to have him on staff.
 
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mreynoldsdvm said:
Only news from the Steele front was that OCIVol said he was hearing that Steele and Brooks coming to UT looked more likely than Shannon.
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Haven't been paying that much attention, but hasn't the accuracy of OCI's "information" been called into question quite a bit lately?
 
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Domestic Silence said:
Legitimate question.

If true, what happens if Dooley ass blows another season and we have Shannon inked on a MY deal? We're stuck with RS as a head coach, or have to spend more money that the sunshine pumpers say we don't have to buy him out too, if another HC were to be hired?
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Randy Shannon our new head coach:eek:lol::dance2:
 
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