Current Players View of Dooley

#51
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FredWhite2 said:
All of these reports and rumors of "Dooley has lost the locker room" or "the players hate Dooley" couldn't be further from the truth and honestly shows how awful and ignorant some of our fan base truly has become.

I am best friends with several members of this team, one a starter. I talk to him every week and he assures me that they players respect and like Dooley. Sure during a sub par year with a lot of adversity there are going to be rifts on every team, that's to be expected when everyone cares about something and you come up short. And yes, there are always going to be a few when times get tough that start pointing the finger (Rodgers) He tells me what this team lacked and desperately needed was leadership among the players, which never came.

Maybe if our so called fans quit bashing the absolute crap out of 18-22 year old kids and actually cheered for and not against our team and our coach, it would help these boys relax. Derek Dooley stepped into a job that NOBODY wanted. It's that simple... I'm not saying he's the next Nick Saban, but the man deserves our respect and support for AT LEAST another year before our fan base starts to show this level of ignorance and insanity toward him and our program.

I am not sitting here saying he has done everything right, but the guy has represented us with class and has worked his butt off to try to bring in the best talent he can recruiting wise, which will help us get better the quickest b/c we have VERY LITTLE talent on our roster. As I've mentioned before, you cannot expect to win games especially in this conference with two or three good players. Then, when two of the three go down with injuries you have to accept that that's football and play with what you have and not be shocked when Dooley cannot pull out a miracle.

Give this man a chance. Next year if we don't see signs of improvement (that's doesn't mean winning the SEC championship) then all of you so called fans can begin to question Dooley and whether or not he is the guy for the job... These are hard times on Rocky Top and this past season did not go as the fans had hoped, but quit acting like a bunch of crazed ignorant fools and either get on board and accept this past year for what it was, or leave and go torment someone else's program.
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So they're uptight and tense and can't just relax and play hard on Saturdays because of message board content? Flat out absurd.
 
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:hi:
FredWhite2 said:
All of these reports and rumors of "Dooley has lost the locker room" or "the players hate Dooley" couldn't be further from the truth and honestly shows how awful and ignorant some of our fan base truly has become.

I am best friends with several members of this team, one a starter. I talk to him every week and he assures me that they players respect and like Dooley. Sure during a sub par year with a lot of adversity there are going to be rifts on every team, that's to be expected when everyone cares about something and you come up short. And yes, there are always going to be a few when times get tough that start pointing the finger (Rodgers) He tells me what this team lacked and desperately needed was leadership among the players, which never came.

Maybe if our so called fans quit bashing the absolute crap out of 18-22 year old kids and actually cheered for and not against our team and our coach, it would help these boys relax. Derek Dooley stepped into a job that NOBODY wanted. It's that simple... I'm not saying he's the next Nick Saban, but the man deserves our respect and support for AT LEAST another year before our fan base starts to show this level of ignorance and insanity toward him and our program.

I am not sitting here saying he has done everything right, but the guy has represented us with class and has worked his butt off to try to bring in the best talent he can recruiting wise, which will help us get better the quickest b/c we have VERY LITTLE talent on our roster. As I've mentioned before, you cannot expect to win games especially in this conference with two or three good players. Then, when two of the three go down with injuries you have to accept that that's football and play with what you have and not be shocked when Dooley cannot pull out a miracle.

Give this man a chance. Next year if we don't see signs of improvement (that's doesn't mean winning the SEC championship) then all of you so called fans can begin to question Dooley and whether or not he is the guy for the job... These are hard times on Rocky Top and this past season did not go as the fans had hoped, but quit acting like a bunch of crazed ignorant fools and either get on board and accept this past year for what it was, or leave and go torment someone else's program.
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:hi:You have stated my thoughts, too sir. Malik and Austin both stated their support for Dooley after the Ky game. It's hard to understand how all these guys that spend hours a day on message boards can bash guys that are spending like 90+ hours a week busting their butts for our football team. As has been mentioned before, we were playing this year with 1 NFL caliber Senior, and probably 1 NFL caliber JR, and our fanbase thought we should win7+ games with one of the toughest schedules in the nation.
Again, good post!! :clapping:
 
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checkerboards09 said:
But if you don't support the head coach, who's doing a terrible job, then you're not a UT fan......
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But checkerboards09, he's a great recruiter. You don't need to teach or develop your players once they arrive on campus. They are ready to go the moment they finish high school.

And if Tennessee loses, sir, well it is your fault for being so darn negative. The coach's job is done after Signing Day.

:eek:lol:
 
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FredWhite2 said:
All of these reports and rumors of "Dooley has lost the locker room" or "the players hate Dooley" couldn't be further from the truth and honestly shows how awful and ignorant some of our fan base truly has become.

I am best friends with several members of this team, one a starter. I talk to him every week and he assures me that they players respect and like Dooley. Sure during a sub par year with a lot of adversity there are going to be rifts on every team, that's to be expected when everyone cares about something and you come up short. And yes, there are always going to be a few when times get tough that start pointing the finger (Rodgers) He tells me what this team lacked and desperately needed was leadership among the players, which never came.

Maybe if our so called fans quit bashing the absolute crap out of 18-22 year old kids and actually cheered for and not against our team and our coach, it would help these boys relax. Derek Dooley stepped into a job that NOBODY wanted. It's that simple... I'm not saying he's the next Nick Saban, but the man deserves our respect and support for AT LEAST another year before our fan base starts to show this level of ignorance and insanity toward him and our program.

I am not sitting here saying he has done everything right, but the guy has represented us with class and has worked his butt off to try to bring in the best talent he can recruiting wise, which will help us get better the quickest b/c we have VERY LITTLE talent on our roster. As I've mentioned before, you cannot expect to win games especially in this conference with two or three good players. Then, when two of the three go down with injuries you have to accept that that's football and play with what you have and not be shocked when Dooley cannot pull out a miracle.

Give this man a chance. Next year if we don't see signs of improvement (that's doesn't mean winning the SEC championship) then all of you so called fans can begin to question Dooley and whether or not he is the guy for the job... These are hard times on Rocky Top and this past season did not go as the fans had hoped, but quit acting like a bunch of crazed ignorant fools and either get on board and accept this past year for what it was, or leave and go torment someone else's program.
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Great post man
 
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Lets concentrate on getting Dooley's first top 10 class, then a few upgrades on the staff then we will accurately judge if Derek himself is truly the problem.
 
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checkerboards09 said:
I haven't saw one post of somebody not supporting the team. Why can't some of you get that through your heads? Our coaching sucks and we want what's best for the players so we take it out on the coach and rightfully so.
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Saw, seen, doesn't really matter though. You got all the answers. Carry on Einstein.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
But checkerboards09, he's a great recruiter. You don't need to teach or develop your players once they arrive on campus. They are ready to go the moment they finish high school.

And if Tennessee loses, sir, well it is your fault for being so darn negative. The coach's job is done after Signing Day.

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My thoughts exactly lol
 
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FredWhite2 said:
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Maybe if our so called fans quit bashing the absolute crap out of 18-22 year old kids and actually cheered for and not against our team and our coach, it would help these boys relax. Derek Dooley stepped into a job that NOBODY wanted. It's that simple... I'm not saying he's the next Nick Saban, but the man deserves our respect and support for AT LEAST another year before our fan base starts to show this level of ignorance and insanity toward him and our program....
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That is total Bullshiite!!! I get sick of hearing that lame comment, when no one knows the offers that were made. Past history seems to clearly indicate that Tennessee has NOT shown a willingness to offer the Saban level of money, and thus low-budget offers being turned down doesn't mean "No one else would take the job!" That is utter freakin nonsense!

Fulmer's pay was about 2.5 mill, I believe, and it seems clear to me that Hamilton didn't think these candidates deserved to be offered 75-100% more than Fulmer was being paid. I'm sorry, but that is the market rate to bag a big-name hire. Hamilton wasn't willing to pay it.

He thought he could get another Bruce Pearl on the cheap. THAT is why no-one else "seemed" willing to come. Most every coach has a price. Question is, are desperate teams willing to pay it. Until you have clear evidence that coaches like Peterson, Patterson, Wittingham, etc. were OFFERED $3.5-$4mill/yr. quit saying no one but Dooley would take the job!
 
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ChaucerVol said:
Yes... Dooley should have been out there with his soccer cleats giving kicking pointers. You don't coach kicking, kickers just kick. Kicking is a mental thing. Kind of like golf, you can go out and hit every fairway and every green and think you've got it. The next day you shoot a 102... It just happens with kickers sometimes.
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The comments Fuad Reveiz has made are in stark and direct contract to your opinions here. There is a method to the training, both physical and mental, and our kickers aren't getting any direction. This is why, despite Palardy and Darr both being rated as #1 in their respective positions coming out of high school, they are just about the worst kicker/punter we have ever had.

Its not a coincidence that are kickers have been chronically injured the past few years.
 
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Vols4us said:
I personally wish he would stay quiet and tell the media he is too busy fixing what went wrong to discuss at this point. His sarcastic comments and silly illustrations add nothing to his credibility as head coach of a tradition rich program. If he wants support then do the tough stuff and quit blowing back on everything else as an excuse.
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The way a lot of fans respond to high level D1 coaches remind me of the way SNL and late-night television treat Presidents. Everything is exaggerated.

If he is brash and wins, it means he runs a tight ship, but if he's brash and doesn't win, he is a jerk. If he is loose with rules and playcalling and wins, he's a genius and a "player's coach." If he loses, he has lost his touch and there is no discipline in the program.

I guess that approach helps delusional fans not have to come to grips with the fact that maybe we're not that good.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
That is total Bullshiite!!! I get sick of hearing that lame comment, when no one knows the offers that were made. Past history seems to clearly indicate that Tennessee has NOT shown a willingness to offer the Saban level of money, and thus low-budget offers being turned down doesn't mean "No one else would take the job!" That is utter freakin nonsense!

Fulmer's pay was about 2.5 mill, I believe, and it seems clear to me that Hamilton didn't think these candidates deserved to be offered 75-100% more than Fulmer was being paid. I'm sorry, but that is the market rate to bag a big-name hire. Hamilton wasn't willing to pay it.

He thought he could get another Bruce Pearl on the cheap. THAT is why no-one else "seemed" willing to come. Most every coach has a price. Question is, are desperate teams willing to pay it.
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They are busy turning Dooley into Jesus Christ. He's dying for your sins, because you are just so darn negative.

When did it become your fault we couldn't run the ball against Montana or Kentucky? When the sunshine pumpers decided to turn a head coach into a messiah.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
Introduce yourself to anything written or said about George Cafego sometime, then get back to me on how kicking and punting can't be coached.
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No doubt there's good coaches out there who teach the mechanics of kicking but from my experience there's no amount of coaching that can break a bad kicking streak. You blame Mark McGuire when Albert Pujols went through a 27 at bat slump this year (or whatever it was)? I personally wouldn't ever put a missed kick(s) on a head coach.
 
#67
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Bravo. Obviously after seeing the locker room video after vandy I can tell the players hate him. Good stuff, keep it coming.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
But checkerboards09, he's a great recruiter. You don't need to teach or develop your players once they arrive on campus. They are ready to go the moment they finish high school.

And if Tennessee loses, sir, well it is your fault for being so darn negative. The coach's job is done after Signing Day.

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Dumb post. Developed or not they are more than likely playing anyway based on our current situation. Do the best you can & throw them in the fire. If nothing else they get some experience & get to learn first hand. It's not like you develop players in a week or even a single season.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
But checkerboards09, he's a great recruiter. You don't need to teach or develop your players once they arrive on campus. They are ready to go the moment they finish high school.

And if Tennessee loses, sir, well it is your fault for being so darn negative. The coach's job is done after Signing Day.

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You realize Dooley's recruits were just Soph's this year right? How many teams could compete in the Sec with a team full of Sophs and Frosh?
Kiffy could recruit but when he played true freshman they didn't exactly light the world on fire.
Janzen was the one guy who did, but BBrown wasn't great, nor was Oku, nor was NuKeese. So, if Kiffy was coaching with a team with 7-8 first year starters, then he probably would have gone 5-7 too, but I don't expect you to comprehend this.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
They are busy turning Dooley into Jesus Christ. He's dying for your sins, because you are just so darn negative.

When did it become your fault we couldn't run the ball against Montana or Kentucky? When the sunshine pumpers decided to turn a head coach into a messiah.
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Google "straw man argument" and then please stop doing it.
 
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royboyvol said:
I guess that's why there are lots of posts about tutors for exam week and the benefits of Dooley's VFL program.

Don't kid yourself.
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Im not talking about the VFL program, that's actually a good thing he's done. Im talking about football and producing W's on the field.
 
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ChaucerVol said:
No doubt there's good coaches out there who teach the mechanics of kicking but from my experience there's no amount of coaching that can break a bad kicking streak. You blame Mark McGuire when Albert Pujols went through a 27 at bat slump this year (or whatever it was)? I personally wouldn't ever put a missed kick(s) on a head coach.
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I would if they weren't being developed at all.

It takes a lot of nerve to dismiss Cafego's contribution to Tennessee as a coach in an effort to defend Dooley at all costs.
 
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