'12 MI DT Danny O'Brien (TN signee)

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Montrell Hardy said:
I think that is pretty much what Saban has been doing. Getting rid guys that have had off field problems or who have not completely bought into the program. (ie either attitude problems, not putting in the work, etc..).

It's not like he's getting rid of every non-starter or non-two deep guy every year.
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If he recruited you and you are not in the two-deep, then you clearly have an attitude problem and haven't bought into the program. Otherwise, Saban would never have recruited you. Shame!
 
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golfballs03 said:
then you clearly have an attitude problem and haven't bought into the program.
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How do you know this? Do you know Saban personally to know this is how he views it? Like I said there are plenty of guys not in the two-deep that he hasn't cut out.

Look I understand there are always going to be pockets of homer Tennessee fans that will cry about and hate everything Saban or any other good non-Tennessee coach does, but this is a little over the top. Now you guys are inside Saban's brain and know exactly what he's thinking...
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
How do you know this? Do you know Saban personally to know this is how he views it? Like I said there are plenty of guys not in the two-deep that he hasn't cut out.

Look I understand there are always going to be pockets of homer Tennessee fans that will cry about and hate everything Saban or any other good non-Tennessee coach does, but this is a little over the top. Now you guys are inside Saban's brain and know exactly what he's thinking...
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I'm being sarcastic.
 
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He is a prick though. I'm family friends with a player. Said a lot of the non-starters hate him because he treats them like $#!^

Although I take that with a grain of salt
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
How do you know this? Do you know Saban personally to know this is how he views it? Like I said there are plenty of guys not in the two-deep that he hasn't cut out.

Look I understand there are always going to be pockets of homer Tennessee fans that will cry about and hate everything Saban or any other good non-Tennessee coach does, but this is a little over the top. Now you guys are inside Saban's brain and know exactly what he's thinking...
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Saban's success as a coach and talent evaluator is undeniable. I have no idea what kind of person he is, and I'm not in a position to pass any kind of judgement on him - same for pretty much every other good non-Tennessee coach except Urban Meyer. However, the way Saban handles his scholarships is not ok.

Alabama’s Numbers Oversigning.com
 
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volinexile17 said:
Saban's success as a coach and talent evaluator is undeniable. I have no idea what kind of person he is, and I'm not in a position to pass any kind of judgement on him - same for pretty much every other good non-Tennessee coach except Urban Meyer. However, the way Saban handles his scholarships is not ok.

Alabama’s Numbers Oversigning.com
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Great Article.
 
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volinexile17 said:
Saban's success as a coach and talent evaluator is undeniable. I have no idea what kind of person he is, and I'm not in a position to pass any kind of judgement on him - same for pretty much every other good non-Tennessee coach except Urban Meyer. However, the way Saban handles his scholarships is not ok.

Alabama’s Numbers Oversigning.com
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Obviously recruits aren't offended by it. That's all that matters.
 
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ESPN not high on O'Brien. Only the #56 DT. Eval looks off to me - question size and athleticism:

This guy is one of those overachieving, snot blowing yard dawgs that every team would love to have because he plays with a great motor, he is relentless in his effort and he is actually a pretty darn good football player. O'Brien is going to be limited athletically and we are not sure he is as tall as his listed height, but he is a bowling ball from his tackle position with an explosive first step to his get off and wickedly quick swim move that is tough for any center or guard at this level to handle. He can quickly get into a blocker, stay low, generate power from his lower body, and knock a blocker on his heels. He is active and violent with his hands. He can quickly punch and separate. He can club and knock a blocker off balance. Because he can be quick off the ball he can also quickly get to the shoulder of a blocker and into a gap and push up-field. He can be both a physical and disruptive presence. He does a good job of holding his ground versus single and double teams. He has a good motor. Has adequate speed, but he is working and giving what he has to get to the ball. The issue with O'Brien is that he has limited range. He is a sparkplug that will really give you effort, but he is a better player than he is an athlete. Plays with a low base and can anchor. He is an inside plugger, on-gap guy that is extremely disruptive, but limited in terms of top end speed and play pursuit. With O'Brien you know what you are going to get and his effort is awesome. He is a non-BCS/BCS level 'tweener.
 
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volinexile17 said:
ESPN not high on O'Brien. Only the #56 DT. Eval looks off to me - question size and athleticism:

This guy is one of those overachieving, snot blowing yard dawgs that every team would love to have because he plays with a great motor, he is relentless in his effort and he is actually a pretty darn good football player. O'Brien is going to be limited athletically and we are not sure he is as tall as his listed height, but he is a bowling ball from his tackle position with an explosive first step to his get off and wickedly quick swim move that is tough for any center or guard at this level to handle. He can quickly get into a blocker, stay low, generate power from his lower body, and knock a blocker on his heels. He is active and violent with his hands. He can quickly punch and separate. He can club and knock a blocker off balance. Because he can be quick off the ball he can also quickly get to the shoulder of a blocker and into a gap and push up-field. He can be both a physical and disruptive presence. He does a good job of holding his ground versus single and double teams. He has a good motor. Has adequate speed, but he is working and giving what he has to get to the ball. The issue with O'Brien is that he has limited range. He is a sparkplug that will really give you effort, but he is a better player than he is an athlete. Plays with a low base and can anchor. He is an inside plugger, on-gap guy that is extremely disruptive, but limited in terms of top end speed and play pursuit. With O'Brien you know what you are going to get and his effort is awesome. He is a non-BCS/BCS level 'tweener.
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Racist
 
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All I know is Dooley better land some stud DTs or he may be done. He's got to get this done. We need at least 2 great ones and 1 or 2 that will get there in time.
 
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I saw O'Brien last month up in Columbus at the Nike Combine and he was very impressive. He and Sheldon Day were impressive and both would be definite upgrades if they were to pick Tennessee.

That ESPN evaluation of O'Brien is horrible. So he is limited athletically for a DT but he has an explosive first step and has a very quick swim move? Explain how this makes sense. You dont have those qualities as a DT prospect if you aren't athletic. He doesn't need to be the kind of athlete that has to stay quick and explosive for more than 2-3 seconds per play because of the position he plays.
 
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"I'm going to Iowa this weekend, Michigan State, probably Michigan. July is when I'm going to all the down south schools, Tennessee, Alabama and Florida."

As for new offers, O'Brien says USC has shown interest, and the Trojans :mad: could end up being next on the list. It is an impressive scholarship offer list, and O'Brien says the Gators have just as much a chance as anyone else :rolleyes:.

"They're definitely a school that can hop right in. I like what they're doing down there. I'm going to study up and see what they're about."

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