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tigervol9802 said:
There's no guarantee. I'll be the first to admit that. I am sure Michigan never thought RichRod would be gone after three years when he was hired. Sometimes it just doesn't work out.

Do I think we will try much harder to find a coach that can replicate Pearl's success (or heaven forbid do more) than Dickey did? Absolutely.
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Good post. I too think Tennessee will try harder than it did with Dickey, I just don't think it will be as easy as some make it out to be. Even if they make a great hire (as Michigan thought they did with RichRod) there is no guarantee those results translate to wins and losses.

JZVOL said:
How is that remotely possible for me to answer?
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I was just asking if 'you think' they definitely will. In other words, is it more probable than 'could'.

StepCross said:
Trying hard is no guarantee.

Ask Skylar McBee.
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:lol: I laughed.
 
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NYYVol said:
What prevents it?
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Nothing prevents it. I just don't think it's going to be as easy as some here do.


orangetanker11 said:
Don't be ridculous. There is no guarantee. The resources are here to be successful, and I seriously doubt we would go the cheap route when hiring a new coach. Over 2 mil could get you a damn good coach.
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Will the job attract the interest of a big name proven coach? Maybe, but I think more than likely Tennessee has to take somewhat of a chance, like it did with Pearl.

emainvol said:
That's fine until they start in with this "hater" crap.
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Fair enough.

NYYVol said:
Yet many at any bad word towards Pearl make the "he is UT bball" cry that gets under my skin more than ever. I do admit that I just flat out don't like the guy and never have. But I do see your point and I do see some of those fans. The ones that belittle the program by saying he's the godfather can follow him to his next stop or just jump off the top of TBA as far as I'm concerned.
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I can understand your point.
 
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NYYVol said:
Yet many at any bad word towards Pearl make the "he is UT bball" cry that gets under my skin more than ever. I do admit that I just flat out don't like the guy and never have. But I do see your point and I do see some of those fans. The ones that belittle the program by saying he's the godfather can follow him to his next stop or just jump off the top of TBA as far as I'm concerned.
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I suppose I don't have fans come up and ask me "is ETSU in the SEC" like Hatvol does. :lol:
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Freak said:
I suppose I don't have fans come up and ask me "is ETSU in the SEC" like Hatvol does. :lol:
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They're out there. One row behind me at a home game this year I overheard a conversation questioning whether or not Memphis was still considered Memphis State or not.
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NYYVol said:
They're out there. One row behind me at a home game this year I overheard a conversation questioning whether or not Memphis was still considered Memphis State or not.
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That doesn't surprise me. But I must admit, they will always be Memphis State in my mind.
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Fingers said:
Good post. I too think Tennessee will try harder than it did with Dickey, I just don't think it will be as easy as some make it out to be. Even if they make a great hire (as Michigan thought they did with RichRod) there is no guarantee those results translate to wins and losses.



I was just asking if 'you think' they definitely will. In other words, is it more probable than 'could'.



:lol: I laughed.
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I don't want Pearl let go because of what I've seen on the court (last 10 games nonwithstanding). Some of his style and what his players do drives me batty, but it wins a lot more than it loses. Like I've said since I first started posting here, I think Pearl is a good but not great coach and am thankful he has made our program relevant again.

That said, I don't think he is UT basketball as much as others do. If we're not sitting with a 2 year postseason ban and severe scholarship restrictions, I think we have the resources to go after another very good coach and have a much better chance of landing a successful hire than we did ten years ago. In short - baring massive sanctions, I don't think getting rid of Pearl will send us straight to the basketball netherworld as many others do.
 
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Really?? You know we had no basketball program prior to Pearl. You are absolutely correct. No coach is bigger than the program, nor should they be.
 
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hatvol96 said:
How many schools that commit big time resources to basketball aren't consistently successful?
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With the expansion of the tournament field to 64 (ish) and that you only need to win two games to be in the Sweet 16, just about everybody can make a run at some point.
 
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hatvol96 said:
How many schools that commit big time resources to basketball aren't consistently successful?
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Yes but do you think/know/believe UT will likely/maybe/probably/could will definitely likely hire a coach better than Pearl?
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West Virginia kept Gale Catlett around through off court embarrassments, NCAA inquiries,and declining performance because they convinced themselves they couldn't do any better. Then, they woke the Hell up and realized there was no reason they couldn't be a player in the Big East.. I'd say the last eight years of Mountaineer basketball answers the question about which approach was right.
 
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Hopefully we will hire a coach better than Pearl that will have some level of integrity and won't lie to the NCAA and bring shame to our basketball program. Shouldn't really be that difficult.
 
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hatvol96 said:
West Virginia kept Gale Catlett around through off court embarrassments, NCAA inquiries,and declining performance because they convinced themselves they couldn't do any better. Then, they woke the Hell up and realized there was no reason they couldn't be a player in the Big East.. I'd say the last eight years of Mountaineer basketball answers the question about which approach was right.
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OTOH, Kentucky got tired of Tubby Smith's "substandard" product, and went out and hired Billy Gillespie.

That didn't work out well at all.

I agree that it's time for Pearl to bounce, but some of you guys need to realize that there is no guarantee the new hire will be better--in fact, chances are pretty good he'll be worse.

Home runs are rare.
 
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StepCross said:
OTOH, Kentucky got tired of Tubby Smith's "substandard" product, and went out and hired Billy Gillespie.

That didn't work out well at all.

I agree that it's time for Pearl to bounce, but some of you guys need to realize that there is no guarantee the new hire will be better--in fact, chances are pretty good he'll be worse.

Home runs are rare.
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Solo homers are rally killers.
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Let's be clear. I don't think that lying to the NCAA makes Pearl an awful person who never deserves a second chance in life. I do think, that for the good Tennessee's basketball program, we have to cut ties with Pearl, preferably before the NCAA announces penalties. I'd be perfectly okay with Pearl having success after whatever suspension he receives, but I certainly don't want to see UT basketball suffer more than it needs to. We've spent the last decade watching our football program fall further and further from competing for SEC/National Titles, and that has a lot to do with our fans preferring to stay loyal to a guy that brought us success in the past rather than thinking about what's best for the program. It's one thing if people really believed that Fulmer would turn it around, or that Pearl will be able to succeed despite major sanctions that hurt his and Tennessee's reputation. It's a completely different thing if people are making these decisions out of fear. The last 20 years or so has proven that Tennessee basketball can survive bad coaches. I'm confident we can find a replacement that could have us in the NCAA tournament the next few years. I'm not sure we'll be able to do so without making a change.
 
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StepCross said:
OTOH, Kentucky got tired of Tubby Smith's "substandard" product, and went out and hired Billy Gillespie.

That didn't work out well at all.

I agree that it's time for Pearl to bounce, but some of you guys need to realize that there is no guarantee the new hire will be better--in fact, chances are pretty good he'll be worse.

Home runs are rare.
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Yeah, a process that ultimately led to John Calipari coaching at UK has been a real disaster.
 
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NYYVol said:
They're out there. One row behind me at a home game this year I overheard a conversation questioning whether or not Memphis was still considered Memphis State or not.
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The correct answer is that they will always be Memphis State
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StepCross said:
You miss the point, which was: new hires often don't pan out, even at schools with resources and dedication.
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Yet it could have worked out better if given time. Maybe not to UK's standards.
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StepCross said:
Gillespie could have worked out? Really?

I'd as soon keep Pearl.
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Admittedly he and his personality didn't mesh in Lexington. But dude can coach and if given time to get his players, it could have been better.
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StepCross said:
You miss the point, which was: new hires often don't pan out, even at schools with resources and dedication.
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Using that kind of cowardly "Oh, God", this might not work" line of thinking, Tennessee would be about 40 years into Bill Battle's tenure as football coach. If you have an athletic director who can't hire a good coach with a renovated TBA, Pratt Pavilion, and $2.5 mil, you need a new athletic director.
 
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