QB Justin Worley commitment

#30
#30
I'm haven't really made up my mind on Dooley one way or the other yet, but I find the blind optimism of many of you folks very interesting. Dooley is loading this team's 2011 recruiting class with 2-star and 3-star players, and the reaction of most folks on here seems to be that he's doing a tremendous job and he's "on a roll". The comment that he landed the QB that he wanted is interesting as well. 3-star players usually are easier to land than 4-star and 5-star players. When you set out to recruit lower-rated players, you SHOULD have a higher success rate.

Is it possible that 2-star and 3-star players are underrated and will gel as a group and play above their perceived talent level? Sure. However, the odds of ALL of these guys doing so are exceptionally low, and our SEC rivals are not needing their players to play above their heads. They're loading their teams with elite players that just need to play anywhere near their perceived talent levels.
 
#31
#31
PrimeTime said:
Dooley did something Kiffin couldn't do. He got the QB he wanted.
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...really? Kiffin couldn't get the #1 QB in the class (cause he wanted to stay home), so he got us the #7 QB instead. Dooley got a QB. Score. There's no reason to bring up something stupid like a comparison to Kiffin, though. Doing so would only serve to show Dooley appears to be shooting low and scoring instead of shooting for the skies and settling.
 
#32
#32
Vol423 said:
I'm haven't really made up my mind on Dooley one way or the other yet, but I find the blind optimism of many of you folks very interesting. Dooley is loading this team's 2011 recruiting class with 2-star and 3-star players, and the reaction of most folks on here seems to be that he's doing a tremendous job and he's "on a roll". The comment that he landed the QB that he wanted is interesting as well. 3-star players usually are easier to land than 4-star and 5-star players. When you set out to recruit lower-rated players, you SHOULD have a higher success rate.

Is it possible that 2-star and 3-star players are underrated and will gel as a group and play above their perceived talent level? Sure. However, the odds of ALL of these guys doing so are exceptionally low, and our SEC rivals are not needing their players to play above their heads. They're loading their teams with elite players that just need to play anywhere near their perceived talent levels.
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^Not a true fan.
 
#33
#33
Vol423 said:
I'm haven't really made up my mind on Dooley one way or the other yet, but I find the blind optimism of many of you folks very interesting. Dooley is loading this team's 2011 recruiting class with 2-star and 3-star players, and the reaction of most folks on here seems to be that he's doing a tremendous job and he's "on a roll". The comment that he landed the QB that he wanted is interesting as well. 3-star players usually are easier to land than 4-star and 5-star players. When you set out to recruit lower-rated players, you SHOULD have a higher success rate.

Is it possible that 2-star and 3-star players are underrated and will gel as a group and play above their perceived talent level? Sure. However, the odds of ALL of these guys doing so are exceptionally low, and our SEC rivals are not needing their players to play above their heads. They're loading their teams with elite players that just need to play anywhere near their perceived talent levels.
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Eazy-E will be here shortly to explain to you how 2 and 3 star guys with heart and determination are far better for UT than 4 and 5 star guys. Just wait...
 
#34
#34
Vol423 said:
I'm haven't really made up my mind on Dooley one way or the other yet, but I find the blind optimism of many of you folks very interesting. Dooley is loading this team's 2011 recruiting class with 2-star and 3-star players, and the reaction of most folks on here seems to be that he's doing a tremendous job and he's "on a roll". The comment that he landed the QB that he wanted is interesting as well. 3-star players usually are easier to land than 4-star and 5-star players. When you set out to recruit lower-rated players, you SHOULD have a higher success rate.

Is it possible that 2-star and 3-star players are underrated and will gel as a group and play above their perceived talent level? Sure. However, the odds of ALL of these guys doing so are exceptionally low, and our SEC rivals are not needing their players to play above their heads. They're loading their teams with elite players that just need to play anywhere near their perceived talent levels.
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Do we have any 2 star commitments?
 
#35
#35
Volinnooga said:
Do we have any 2 star commitments?
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Meet our TE of the future.
 
#36
#36
Vol423 said:
I'm haven't really made up my mind on Dooley one way or the other yet, but I find the blind optimism of many of you folks very interesting. Dooley is loading this team's 2011 recruiting class with 2-star and 3-star players, and the reaction of most folks on here seems to be that he's doing a tremendous job and he's "on a roll". The comment that he landed the QB that he wanted is interesting as well. 3-star players usually are easier to land than 4-star and 5-star players. When you set out to recruit lower-rated players, you SHOULD have a higher success rate.

Is it possible that 2-star and 3-star players are underrated and will gel as a group and play above their perceived talent level? Sure. However, the odds of ALL of these guys doing so are exceptionally low, and our SEC rivals are not needing their players to play above their heads. They're loading their teams with elite players that just need to play anywhere near their perceived talent levels.
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While I fancy myself a cynic and a pessimist. You should take a look at this kid's offer list. His star rating is more a function of his lack of camp attendance than anything else. If UF, FSU, LSU, UNC, ND among others want him, chances are we do to.
 
#37
#37
crusse10 said:
...really? Kiffin couldn't get the #1 QB in the class (cause he wanted to stay home), so he got us the #7 QB instead. Dooley got a QB. Score. There's no reason to bring up something stupid like a comparison to Kiffin, though. Doing so would only serve to show Dooley appears to be shooting low and scoring instead of shooting for the skies and settling.
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In CDD's defense, Worley was very high on Kiffin's list of 2011 QBs while he was still here because of Chaney's evaluation. That might have changed as this recruiting season progressed had Kiffin still been here, but it was what it was. This is apparently who Chaney wanted, though I am worried that he was falling so fast on others' radars.
 
#38
#38
volconomist said:
While I fancy myself a cynic and a pessimist. You should take a look at this kid's offer list. His star rating is more a function of his lack of camp attendance than anything else. If UF, FSU, LSU, UNC, ND among others want him, chances are we do to.
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Please see Paragraph 2 to my previous post.
 
#40
#40
crusse10 said:
...really? Kiffin couldn't get the #1 QB in the class (cause he wanted to stay home), so he got us the #7 QB instead. Dooley got a QB. Score. There's no reason to bring up something stupid like a comparison to Kiffin, though. Doing so would only serve to show Dooley appears to be shooting low and scoring instead of shooting for the skies and settling.
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Kiffin's #1 target was Worley.
 
#41
#41
volconomist said:
While I fancy myself a cynic and a pessimist. You should take a look at this kid's offer list. His star rating is more a function of his lack of camp attendance than anything else. If UF, FSU, LSU, UNC, ND among others want him, chances are we do to.
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I think you should read his post more closely. He appears to discuss the class overall and star ratings more than discussing the current QB commitment...
 
#42
#42
TennTradition said:
In CDD's defense, Worley was very high on Kiffin's list of 2011 QBs while he was still here because of Chaney's evaluation. That might have changed as this recruiting season progressed had Kiffin still been here, but it was what it was. This is apparently who Chaney wanted, though I am worried that he was falling so fast on others' radars.
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NBC Sports - College Football - Inside the Irish

"Worley's the top quarterback on Notre Dame's board, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Irish either locked in Worley or took a pass on quarterbacks in this class all together. Regardless of how quarterback friendly an offense is, it's going to be tough to sign a national recruit when you've got a crowded depth chart like Notre Dame's. "
 
#43
#43
TennTradition said:
In CDD's defense, Worley was very high on Kiffin's list of 2011 QBs while he was still here because of Chaney's evaluation. That might have changed as this recruiting season progressed had Kiffin still been here, but it was what it was. This is apparently who Chaney wanted, though I am worried that he was falling so fast on others' radars.
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I understand. I'm not trying to say he's bad, or anything of the sort. But bringing up Kiffin in a way to say that DD is doing better is just moronic. If Kiffin weren't here, it's possible that we'd be looking at the thread "Simms or Nance?" Now I know that DD would have been working on getting another QB last year, but you see what I'm getting at. Kiffin got us the QB that could quickly become a freshman starter. Saying his QB recruitment is worse than DD's is just stupid.
 
#44
#44
Volinnooga said:
I am not as into the recruiting as some of you guys--who is the TE in the picture?
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Andrew Power, former walk on TE at South Carolina.

Offers from:
Memphis
Nevada
North Texas
Utah State

He's the one that started this "roll" we're currently on.
 
#45
#45
Is he the next Peyton, probably not, but from what I've read JC has been on this kid since last year. If Chaney thinks this kid has some potential then I'll take his evaluation of him.
 
#46
#46
volconomist said:
While I fancy myself a cynic and a pessimist. You should take a look at this kid's offer list. His star rating is more a function of his lack of camp attendance than anything else. If UF, FSU, LSU, UNC, ND among others want him, chances are we do to.
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LSU, UF, and FSU were no longer recruiting Worley. Brian Kelly didn't even meet with him when he visited ND this weekend. He had eliminated UNC but I have no idea how hard they were recruiting him.
 
#47
#47
volwarrior33 said:
Andrew Power, former walk on TE at South Carolina.

Offers from:
Memphis
Nevada
North Texas
Utah State

He's the one that started this "roll" we're currently on.
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As I recall, reports from SC and from those who actually saw him play and practice spoke highly of him. But then I know that posters know more than coaches.
 
#48
#48
Personally I think that this is a good pickup for the VOLS. We need depth at the qb position, and he is suppose to be one of the top qbs in the south. It will be interesting to see in about 3 years what this class turns out to be. GO VOLS !!!!

One side note, it is nice to see Dooley picking up good recruits before he has even coached a game in the SEC.
 
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