Private Sector screwing up

#78
#78
Cash Vallin said:
you can't honestly believe that... the people in this article didn't know... but since it doesn't help your cause, you're just gonna say it's all hogwash.
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Of course it's crap. They can't insure someone without his consent and ensuing physical. His neglecting to tell his family is his business and their problem.
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#80
#80
paul1454 said:
Haha, I don't think badly of the little man. If these policies were hurting the little man, that would be a different story. However, without these policies, many large companies would have to significantly scale down their employee-benefits programs.
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yeah, that cashier really has an employee-benefit program :ermm: there's no benefit to the hourly employee
 
#82
#82
Cash Vallin said:
yeah, that cashier really has an employee-benefit program :ermm: there's no benefit to the hourly employee
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Which is why being hourly isn't the way to be. Maybe you believe one has to be hourly? One doesn't. Employers owe employees what the market will bear. If what can be borne is too little, employees have options.
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#83
#83
BigPapaVol said:
Of course it's crap. They can't insure someone without his consent and ensuing physical. His neglecting to tell his family is his business and their problem.
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where did it say he neglected to tell his family??? it didn't.. shockingly, you just made that up to help your side
 
#84
#84
Cash Vallin said:
yeah, that cashier really has an employee-benefit program :ermm: there's no benefit to the hourly employee
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I don't think you understand the concept of an employee benefit program. These apply to nearly all full-time employees. They often provide health benefits, disability benefits, death benefits, prepaid legal services, vacation benefits, day care centers, scholarship funds, apprenticeship and training benefits, or other similar benefits. These are not limited to high-level executives.
 
#86
#86
BigPapaVol said:
Which is why being hourly isn't the way to be. Maybe you believe one has to be hourly? One doesn't. Employers owe employees what the market will bear. If what can be borne is too little, employees have options.
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and again, i think we owe a lot of gratitude to these hourly employees. without them, our lives would be a ton different
 
#88
#88
Cash Vallin said:
where did it say he neglected to tell his family??? it didn't.. shockingly, you just made that up to help your side
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Don't be dense. They didn't know. He did because he had to consent. Just a hair of thinking led me to my conclusion. Similarly, just a tinge of inability to think led you to make such an absurd comment.
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#89
#89
paul1454 said:
I don't think you understand the concept of an employee benefit program. These apply to nearly all full-time employees. They often provide health benefits, disability benefits, death benefits, prepaid legal services, vacation benefits, day care centers, scholarship funds, apprenticeship and training benefits, or other similar benefits. These are not limited to high-level executives.
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yeah, expect for the fact when i was in high school, i wasn't under the employee benefit program... please don't tell me you think all those people that work at the wal marts of the world have health insurance, paid vacation, etc... the company doesn't provide it for them
 
#90
#90
Cash Vallin said:
and again, i think we owe a lot of gratitude to these hourly employees. without them, our lives would be a ton different
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Presumably you take the same ridiculous approach to the nearly free labor pool being provided by China.
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#91
#91
BigPapaVol said:
Don't be dense. They didn't know. He did because he had to consent. Just a hair of thinking led me to my conclusion. Similarly, just a tinge of inability to think led you to make such an absurd comment.
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and yet, somehow, the courts agreed with the other family in the article... hmmmm, wonder why...
 
#94
#94
BigPapaVol said:
Presumably you take the same ridiculous approach to the nearly free labor pool being provided by China.
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the people making money off of free labor do have a lot of gratitude to those people. they'll never show it, because they think they're better than those mere uneducated/unskilled people
 
#96
#96
Cash Vallin said:
yeah, expect for the fact when i was in high school, i wasn't under the employee benefit program... please don't tell me you think all those people that work at the wal marts of the world have health insurance, paid vacation, etc... the company doesn't provide it for them
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so full-time employees at Walmart don't have access to HC?
 
#97
#97
utvolpj said:
so full-time employees at Walmart don't have access to HC?
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over time, they do... you just got to be there for like a year to receive it. on top of that, most of their employees aren't full time. they keep the hours just under the full-time limit for a reason, unless you're in a managerial position.
 
#98
#98
Cash Vallin said:
yeah, expect for the fact when i was in high school, i wasn't under the employee benefit program... please don't tell me you think all those people that work at the wal marts of the world have health insurance, paid vacation, etc... the company doesn't provide it for them
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Of course I don't believe everyone receives full access to employee benefit programs. I wasn't born yesterday. But, there a plenty forms of non-wage compensation that these policies assist in funding (health care, day care, etc.). These apply to many employees - of course, it isn't surprising you didn't have access to these benefits while you were in high school.

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#99
#99
Cash Vallin said:
over time, they do... you just got to be there for like a year to receive it. on top of that, most of their employees aren't full time. they keep the hours just under the full-time limit for a reason, unless you're in a managerial position.
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Walmart is notorious for these practices. No one forces people to work there. People could choose other employment if they wanted.
 
#100
#100
Cash Vallin said:
over time, they do... you just got to be there for like a year to receive it. on top of that, most of their employees aren't full time. they keep the hours just under the full-time limit for a reason, unless you're in a managerial position.
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most companies (mine included) make you wait for a time before being eligible for any benefits. And if they don't like it they can always find other work that offers what they need. Ain't America great?
 
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