Chaz Coleman's future remains uncertain (CBS)

[TennesseeTarheel]

School or coaches can’t say a thing if it’s a medical issue because of HIPAA violations. Perhaps that’s why we’re not really hearing much other than coach Speak.

I hadn't thought of that. If HIPPA is involved then we're probably hearing what lawyers allow. It's not as simple as fish or cut bait.

 

[hard in the paint]

School or coaches can’t say a thing if it’s a medical issue because of HIPAA violations. Perhaps that’s why we’re not really hearing much other than coach Speak.

This is not true at all and not what HIPAA is.

 

[Jackcrevol]

If he doesn't show up this weekend, cut him and move on. He should have done that with Boo last year and it turned into a bigger problem. I like Heupel, but he keeps recruiting idiots.

I think this is what you'll see happen.

Ultimately, no matter how talented (see Pearce) a kids draft stock will fall. Missing an entire year is not good.

 

[VolForLife83]

Thanks. Hadn't seen that. I'll be curious to see how this "deal" with Coleman was structured and how our GM deals with this now and going forward. I'm hoping he didn't expose us to having a kid and his family bleed us and we get zero in return with no recourse. If so, I'd consider that grounds for termination.

You'd think we'd learn from our past mistakes

 

[RDU VOL#14]

If he doesn't show up this weekend, cut him and move on. He should have done that with Boo last year and it turned into a bigger problem. I like Heupel, but he keeps recruiting idiots.

This isn’t on Heupel. He followed Knowles and Knowles has vouched for the kid the entire time.

 

[CaliVol2009]

If he’s kicked off the team, does he have to sit out a year?

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

If he’s kicked off the team, does he have to sit out a year?

The portal is closed until next season. He's not in it so he's not going anywhere else to play this year without a bunch of lawyers beating the NCAA.

This is why I believe he'll play at UT unless he's medically unable to play.

 

[overseasorange2]

If it is a medical issue, I understand and good luck. If it is that he is home sick. then I have 2 words...Grow up! A lot of people would for 2 mil.

 

[Volbrando]

waiting to hear if he shows today... at this point, I'm not going to be surprised either way

 

[GrizzlyVol]

waiting to hear if he shows today... at this point, I'm not going to be surprised either way

He won't.... he is a grown man acting like a child, complete waste of money

 

[ut93vol]

This is not true at all and not what HIPAA is.

FERPA would govern the release of student information. That might be the more appropriate legal standard, but I’m not a lawyer.

 

[Godfatha]

Cut him loose. Jeez kids went to war, fought and died younger than him.

He's a skinny dude for a DE. He needs to be hitting the weight room hard. He doesn't have any commitment.

 

[GSPVol]

Yeah I have no idea how involved he is with the deals directly. It might be a combination of him and the staff together, not 100% sure. But with this new format I would think you need a good GM like a pro team has who is directly responsible for stuff like this.

Very true. Regardless, there has to be someone, somewhere involved(contract attorney?) that makes sure these deals offer the schools some degree of protection against kids pulling a hit and run with the money.

If not, it would be simply stunning to me that people in those positions are so inept and stupid that they'd just flush money down the toilet especially with what they're spending elsewhere and what they're doing to the average fan in terms of costs to attend and support this school. No way they are that stupid, careless, negligent and unaware. Just no way.

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

The portal is closed until next season. He's not in it so he's not going anywhere else to play this year without a bunch of lawyers beating the NCAA.

This is why I believe he'll play at UT unless he's medically unable to play.

Can he just enroll somewhere and walk on? I thought I heard that as an option for another case.

 

[GSPVol]

If he doesn't show up this weekend, cut him and move on. He should have done that with Boo last year and it turned into a bigger problem. I like Heupel, but he keeps recruiting idiots.

Yep. Don't know what he's like in practice/private, but on the surface, Heupel looks like he's very soft spoken and non-confrontational.....a bit of a nice guy/pushover. Yeah, a so-called "players coach".

Sometimes you just have to be a demanding hard arse and insist on discipline and compliance or else. Let's hope Heupel has that in him, but to date, I've not seen evidence of it.

 

[bpalmer28]

I don't care if it's a medical issue or not. Get this guy off the team and let's move forward.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Can he just enroll somewhere and walk on? I thought I heard that as an option for another case.

It's likely possible but I'm betting he has a revenue sharing contract with UT for 2026, at least, and he'd be in breach of contract, like Mensah was, if he plays elsewhere.

 

[GSPVol]

Can he just enroll somewhere and walk on? I thought I heard that as an option for another case.

Not sure, but I'd bet someone tries it and ends up winning in court if they're denied. Whatever rule applies to regular students would likely be the bar used in court

 

[WillisWG]

Just a reminder these are voluntary summer workouts, so it's not likely he's getting canned for not showing up. However showing up would show a commitment to playing. Can't discount the value of these workouts.

I am puzzled why Josh is taking most the heat here and not our new DC.

 

[GSPVol]

Cut him loose. Jeez kids went to war, fought and died younger than him.

He's a skinny dude for a DE. He needs to be hitting the weight room hard. He doesn't have any commitment.

Sure looks like he's got a lot of growing up to do...in more ways than one.

 

[Godfatha]

Just a reminder these are voluntary summer workouts, so it's not likely he's getting canned for not showing up. However showing up would show a commitment to playing. Can't discount the value of these workouts.

I am puzzled why Josh is taking most the heat here and not our new DC.

Cause it's his program.

 

[GSPVol]

Just a reminder these are voluntary summer workouts, so it's not likely he's getting canned for not showing up. However showing up would show a commitment to playing. Can't discount the value of these workouts.

I am puzzled why Josh is taking most the heat here and not our new DC.

Because Heupel is the head man. No passing blame. The buck stops with him.

 

[WillisWG]

Cause it's his program.

Thanks....enlightening

 

[bpalmer28]

Just a reminder these are voluntary summer workouts, so it's not likely he's getting canned for not showing up. However showing up would show a commitment to playing. Can't discount the value of these workouts.

I am puzzled why Josh is taking most the heat here and not our new DC.

That part makes this even more confusing. Chaz obviously cares about money, and an offseason with the best S&C in the country would make him a lot of it come NFL draft time. Right now, all he's doing is giving NFL teams a reason to pass on him. The 10th overall pick generally gets a contract in the neighborhood of $30M. The end of the first round is half that and it falls off a cliff when you get into the 2nd and 3rd round. I can't imagine why a player as talented as him wouldn't be doing everything possible to move up draft boards.

 

[MemphisVolFan1978]

Just a reminder these are voluntary summer workouts, so it's not likely he's getting canned for not showing up. However showing up would show a commitment to playing. Can't discount the value of these workouts.

I am puzzled why Josh is taking most the heat here and not our new DC.

Not much of a Volunteer if he doesn’t show up for voluntary workouts. Sorry, I couldn’t resist.