Chaz Coleman's future remains uncertain (CBS)

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Imagine being homesick as a 19 year old millionaire in a college town. Odd how this concussion issue wasn't brought up during the transfer process, and if it was, then we have way bigger problems.
 
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RTVFL89 said:
Imagine being homesick as a 19 year old millionaire in a college town. Odd how this concussion issue wasn't brought up during the transfer process, and if it was, then we have way bigger problems.
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Vertigo may happen months after a concussion or be triggered by future trauma to the head so we should not recruit players who've ever been concussed?
 
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This is another example of the incongruous messaging we get as fans. We're asked to view and treat college football as a professional sport - be fine with it being treated as a commercial pro sport, be fine with spending our money on it like it's a pro sport, don't care when everyone comes and goes every offseason, all that - but then the people demanding the money don't even act like professionals.

I'm not attacking Coleman by saying that. This isn't about him. This is about the ludicrous way in which the sport has been twisted. Everyone's demanding professional pay, professional attitudes, but then things like this happen and I guess everyone's supposed to "oh well, shucks, darn it." Imagine if a basketball lottery pick in the NBA got paid huge rookie money and then said "ahh yeah, I'm homesick." This whole college sports thing really is a circus now.
 
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Apparently non of the previous commenters above have ever dealt with emotional issues. I have as an older adult and I can say one thing for certain. Your brain doesn’t care how good you life seems to be to the outside, it has it’s own way of thinking. The comments above show lack of knowledge (ignorance) on the subject. I could almost guarantee he would give $2M to have his regular life back. No price on your health.
 
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Voltopia said:
This is another example of the incongruous messaging we get as fans. We're asked to view and treat college football as a professional sport - be fine with it being treated as a commercial pro sport, be fine with spending our money on it like it's a pro sport, don't care when everyone comes and goes every offseason, all that - but then the people demanding the money don't even act like professionals.

I'm not attacking Coleman by saying that. This isn't about him. This is about the ludicrous way in which the sport has been twisted. Everyone's demanding professional pay, professional attitudes, but then things like this happen and I guess everyone's supposed to "oh well, shucks, darn it." Imagine if a basketball lottery pick in the NBA got paid huge rookie money and then said "ahh yeah, I'm homesick." This whole college sports thing really is a circus now.
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Demanding? I'll wager UT offered him the money. Demanding?
 
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a vol n tears said:
Apparently non of the previous commenters above have ever dealt with emotional issues. I have as an older adult and I can say one thing for certain. Your brain doesn’t care how good you life seems to be to the outside, it has it’s own way of thinking. The comments above show lack of knowledge (ignorance) on the subject. I could almost guarantee he would give $2M to have his regular life back. No price on your health.
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The truth is a lot of people, particularly men, feel it's unacceptable to admit any kind of emotional weakness or hesitation or anything that can be construed as not masculine.

They're terrified not to be perceived as at least one of the toughest men in the room in their heads. They'd rather..... and sadly some do.... blow their head off than admit they don't feel macho and able to stuff all their feelings so far inside they couldn't possibly ever be seen as being soft.

Being male to many men means emotions cannot exist if they aren't "hard and tough" emotions. It's not true, but it's reinforced by a lot of stereotypes everywhere.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Demanding? I'll wager UT offered him the money. Demanding?
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What word would you prefer? Asking? Seeking? Pick whichever word suits you best. The point was - and is - that we are in an era where players want to be paid six or seven figures, same as any other professional athlete. Everyone is asked to view it, support it, pay into it ... but sometimes it's decidedly not professional. This is not singling this incident out, either, it's just another example to throw on the pile. Again. Quite the circus.
 
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Voltopia said:
What word would you prefer? Asking? Seeking? Pick whichever word suits you best. The point was - and is - that we are in an era where players want to be paid six or seven figures, same as any other professional athlete. Everyone is asked to view it, support it, pay into it ... but sometimes it's decidedly not professional. This is not singling this incident out, either, it's just another example to throw on the pile. Again. Quite the circus.
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Apparently, UT likes to have a good football team and chooses to arrange for Spyre to provide NIL for them and UT also shares revenue the school makes from the team with players.

The players didn't create this circus. The schools, as members of the NCAA, created this by developing a business model that's been found to be illegal at every turn.

Stunningly, continuing to run this illegal business model and NOT go pro isn't working out well for the schools as the courts will no longer let them control compensation like they did illegally for decades and decades.

Now you want to have sympathy for the schools? Why? They made this. They ran it and fought for it all the way to the Supreme Court and lost.

Now they STILL won't give up and call the players employees and bargain with them and create a legitimate pro sports business where salary caps and controls could exist.

The players can't make this happen but the schools could. So who is to blame for this circus?
 
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a vol n tears said:
Apparently non of the previous commenters above have ever dealt with emotional issues. I have as an older adult and I can say one thing for certain. Your brain doesn’t care how good you life seems to be to the outside, it has it’s own way of thinking. The comments above show lack of knowledge (ignorance) on the subject. I could almost guarantee he would give $2M to have his regular life back. No price on your health.
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Or, we deal with issues; Just without $2 million, or a massive suppprt structure.
Excuse us for lacking sympathy.
 
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Seems like a fair deal. We pay 1/2 his annual NIL and OSU picks up the other 1/2. We get his services for six months (Winter/Spring) and the they have him for the other 6 months (Summer/Fall).

I mean someone needs to help Ohio State with their salary cap issue.
 
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a vol n tears said:
Apparently non of the previous commenters above have ever dealt with emotional issues. I have as an older adult and I can say one thing for certain. Your brain doesn’t care how good you life seems to be to the outside, it has it’s own way of thinking. The comments above show lack of knowledge (ignorance) on the subject. I could almost guarantee he would give $2M to have his regular life back. No price on your health.
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Yeah… People really need to be careful here. There may be a lot more than meets the eye. And if he is having issues, combining that with the stress of being in a new place, pressure to perform and fending off parasites looking for a handout isn’t helping.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Apparently, UT likes to have a good football team and chooses to arrange for Spyre to provide NIL for them and UT also shares revenue the school makes from the team with players.

The players didn't create this circus. The schools, as members of the NCAA, created this by developing a business model that's been found to be illegal at every turn.

Stunningly, continuing to run this illegal business model and NOT go pro isn't working out well for the schools as the courts will no longer let them control compensation like they did illegally for decades and decades.

Now you want to have sympathy for the schools? Why? They made this. They ran it and fought for it all the way to the Supreme Court and lost.

Now they STILL won't give up and call the players employees and bargain with them and create a legitimate pro sports business where salary caps and controls could exist.

The players can't make this happen but the schools could. So who is to blame for this circus?
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Let’s stop pretending that anyone is obligated to participate. We as fans aren’t obligated. The players aren’t, nor are the coaches. Sure, the NCAA failed to deal with this, but seeing how impossible it is to navigate, I can’t say I blame them. I’m still not sure how you can flush the rules of amateurism down the toilet and then have a virtually unregulated circus on your hands. We keep saying it’s unsustainable and yet They keep finding money. Despite everything costing massively more, UT is still operating at its largest profits ever.
 
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a vol n tears said:
Apparently non of the previous commenters above have ever dealt with emotional issues. I have as an older adult and I can say one thing for certain. Your brain doesn’t care how good you life seems to be to the outside, it has it’s own way of thinking. The comments above show lack of knowledge (ignorance) on the subject. I could almost guarantee he would give $2M to have his regular life back. No price on your health.
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I agree. When the brain is not firing right, it’s out of a persons control. Of course we all say at 19 on UT campus with a couple mil would be awesome.
People are showing their ignorance by just focusing on nil $ like it affects them in any way other than jealousy.
He could have a family history of depression and inherited a gene that triggers it. For people like that, no amount of money matters and being in a good situation doesn’t matter. They need help. Hopefully find it outside of Pharma.
Me and my UT freshman son went to 2 funerals over Christmas break for other 19 yr old UT students who didn’t make it thru their freshman years of college. Their families had $. They had a gf and bf. They should’ve been living their best life but wiring was off and along with being put on pills with dire side effects, they decided they didn’t want to live anymore.
Have some empathy. If somebody is really struggling, it’s highly unlikely its just “homesick”.
 
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Maybe it's true, but isn't he from Ohio? It's like an extra 2 hours from when he was at Penn St. Feels like he's trying to find a way to get out of being here?
 
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VolForLife83 said:
Maybe it's true, but isn't he from Ohio? It's like an extra 2 hours from when he was at Penn St. Feels like he's trying to find a way to get out of being here?
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Probably best for all involved would be for him to step away from football this year. That way he gets time to focus on his self, Tennessee can move on, and he can go to Ohio state next year. I’ve had mental health issues (I really don’t know anyone who hasn’t unless they lie to themselves) so I feel bad for the guy, but there’s a job to do be done and compensation on the line. If he can’t do it, he can’t be here. Bottom line is life is an availability and results based economy. Life doesn’t care what you got going on. It’ll move on
 
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