Iran

[rikberry31]

Tell me you don't understand the basics of oil/fuel production without telling me you don't understand the basics about oil/fuel production.

For it not to matter, and for the market to correct itself, the amount of price pain we'll have to go through to change the way we fundamentally refine oil into gas in this country could cause near political collapse.

Yeah and the world is going to end two years ago and Biden is perfectly fine. Oh and Tariffs are going to cause massive inflation. Excuse me if I don't value the doomers predictions and value them less that Lee Corso's about football games.

 

[ETV]

slThere's a lot more hatred toward Muslims in this thread and forum than toward America. America is supposed to be a melting pot, so the people constantly picking out minority groups to scream at seem more hateful than anyone else

Hatred towards some that believe in a radical portion of their religious ideology? No. No hate there.

Only a common sense application of vetting that should have been done to begin with. Unfortunately, SOP wasn’t followed and now when anyone questions it, they are labeled as full of hate and racists.

Choosing security for a nations citizens is now considered hatred towards minorities. Got it.

 

[rikberry31]

You can refine light crude in refineries setup for heavy, it's just not as efficient. You cannot process heavy in refineries that are setup for light only, as they don't have the hydrocrackers necessary.

Feel free to ask a petroleum engineer.
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What’s the difference between heavy and light crude oils? And why do American refineries need both?

There are hundreds of varieties of crude oil around the world. Different types of oil require different refining processes to make the fuels we need in the quantities we need. Many American refineries need heavier crudes than what is largely produced in the United States.

www.afpm.org

Simple question. Are we using a shite ton (the vast majority) of our own domestic crude or are we mostly using foreign heavy crude as you implied? I wait while you Gemini you friendly neighborhood petroleum engineer.

 

[BeardedVol]

Simple question. Are we using a shite ton (the vast majority) of our own domestic crude or are we mostly using foreign heavy crude as you implied? I wait while you Gemini you friendly neighborhood petroleum engineer.

It's impressive to watch someone embrace being the living embodiment of Dunning-Kruger.

 

[rikberry31]

I'll engage when you can present a valid comparison to protesting our government in a nonviolent manner that's well within the 1st Amendment.

Who's protesting non-violently. Not the pro Hezbollah/Iran crowd. Unless you consider 250 pound dudes body checking hundred pound female reporters, destroying everything in sight and throwing cement chunks non-violent. Then your right.

 

[NashVol11]

Hatred towards some that believe in a radical portion of their religious ideology? No. No hate there.

Only a common sense application of vetting that should have been done to begin with. Unfortunately, SOP wasn’t followed and now when anyone questions it, they are labeled as full of hate and racists.

Choosing security for a nations citizens is now considered hatred towards minorities. Got it.

Last time this president talked about "choosing security" in this context he literally tried to ban all Muslims lol. People in this forum have often advocated for Zohran Mamdani to be deported or said he shouldn't be mayor because 9/11, that's not some violent Islamic fundamentalist it's just a Muslim

 

[NashVol11]

So you wouldn't worry about suicidal maniacs who chant "Death to America" having intercontinental ballistic weapons. Makes sense, you're probably right. WTF.

Are you worried about North Korea? I doubt they view us any more favorably

 

[Persian Vol]

So you wouldn't worry about suicidal maniacs who chant "Death to America" having intercontinental ballistic weapons. Makes sense, you're probably right. WTF.

Acknowledging Iran is a strict ideological regime that is terrible to its own people, and is adversarial to Israel and America to the point where they have been testing Israel and America’s limits for years is a reasonable take grounded in reality. Paranoia that Iran is composed of suicidal maniacs that will destroy us because they hate America intrinsically without any other rational is the thought process of something fed Islamophobic slop on their timeline.

 

[rikberry31]

It's impressive to watch someone embrace being the living embodiment of Dunning-Kruger.

Well I think it's more impressive watching someone embrace being the living embodiment of a Dunghill refuse to answer any question that they don't have an answer to that fits their narrative.
You are also the living embodiment of the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[rikberry31]

Are you worried about North Korea? I doubt they view us any more favorably

Uh Little Rocket Man wants to live. He enjoys his life of luxury he's crazy but he is not a suicidal maniac. He talks big shite but he isn't truly serious, the mullahs are. He understands MAD.

 

[NashVol11]

Acknowledging Iran is a strict ideological regime that is terrible to its own people, and is adversarial to Israel and America to the point where they have been testing Israel and America’s limits for years is a reasonable take grounded in reality. Paranoia that Iran is composed of suicidal maniacs that will destroy us because they hate America intrinsically without any other rational is the thought process of something fed Islamophobic slop on their timeline.

Some people really want life to be a Disney movie where there's a hero that can do no wrong and a villain that just wants to kill everyone in the world for the sake of it. Fits in with the "everyone is 12 now" theme

 

[ETV]

Last time this president talked about "choosing security" in this context he literally tried to ban all Muslims lol. People in this forum have often advocated for Zohran Mamdani to be deported or said he shouldn't be mayor because 9/11, that's not some violent Islamic fundamentalist it's just a Muslim

Not a permanent ban, but suspended immigration and visas until proper vetting was completed.

 

[NashVol11]

Not a permanent ban, but suspended immigration and visas until proper vetting was completed.

Yeah I'm sure it would be completed in two weeks just like the healthcare plan or Greenland, and totally wouldn't result in something similar to how 99% of the refugees we now accept are white South Africans

 

[LouderVol]

So you wouldn't worry about suicidal maniacs who chant "Death to America" having intercontinental ballistic weapons. Makes sense, you're probably right. WTF.

not worried. I have gone thru too many chicken little end of days in my relatively short time on this planet to really take any of them too seriously.

I don't know if you have paid enough attention to them but they do that chant louder after we eff with them. we could easily remove the threat by not pissing them off.

 

[rikberry31]

Acknowledging Iran is a strict ideological regime that is terrible to its own people, and is adversarial to Israel and America to the point where they have been testing Israel and America’s limits for years is a reasonable take grounded in reality. Paranoia that Iran is composed of suicidal maniacs that will destroy us because they hate America intrinsically without any other rational is the thought process of something fed Islamophobic slop on their timeline.

The mullahs are in the same mindset as Adolf Hitler. The are willing to take the whole thing down with them, they care nothing for human life. Their actions of late reinforce that point.

 

[rikberry31]

not worried. I have gone thru too many chicken little end of days in my relatively short time on this planet to really take any of them too seriously.

I don't know if you have paid enough attention to them but they do that chant louder after we eff with them. we could easily remove the threat by not pissing them off.

Appeasement of evil has always worked, you're right. Actually we should give them a boat load of cash, that will make them love us.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Oh boy. They're posting as one now.

It's like a really stupid Voltron.

Wait til they reproduce....

 

[rikberry31]

Whatever excuse you need to support the 1A as long as it aligns with the narrative you enjoy.

A good steak cooked correctly really doesn't need any steak sauce.

 

[rikberry31]

Amish, Mennonites, etc. never need to assimilate either.

And how can we forget the people in all the hollers in Appalachia that stay out of society, they don't need to assimilate either. Only Muslims.

Those groups you mentioned do not have the stated purpose of bringing down western civilization. At least last I checked.

 

[LouderVol]

Appeasement of evil has always worked, you're right. Actually we should give them a boat load of cash, that will make them love us.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

I agree, the good people of this country have been letting the evil people do evil things, like starting unjust wars to fund the MIC, for far too long.

I got a secret for you. after this Iran thing blows over, whether its next week, next year, or after another 20 year occupation. there will be another, newer, scarier threat that we have never faced the like of before. they need to keep you in fear so you don't question their evil ways.

 

[rikberry31]

I agree, the good people of this country have been letting the evil people do evil things, like starting unjust wars to fund the MIC, for far too long.

I got a secret for you. after this Iran thing blows over, whether its next week, next year, or after another 20 year occupation. there will be another, newer, scarier threat that we have never faced the like of before. they need to keep you in fear so you don't question their evil ways.

When this Iran thing is over you will be looking for a rock to crawl under or a hole in the ground to hide in. The libs and the doomers have gotten every single thing wrong for the past 20 years. The doesn't even rise to blind squirrel or broken clock level.

 

[MontyPython]

Hmmm...

Somebody is lying. But which side... Hmmm?

Knowing what I know about Trump in that he lies every time he opens his mouth, does it make me "anti-American" to tend to believe the Iranians over us? Oh dear...

Four vessels traveled to and from Iran despite US blockade, Iranian media say​

Iranian media outlets reported that four vessels transited waters near Iran on Wednesday, traveling to and from the country despite a US blockade that took effect Tuesday.

The vessels were the Greek-operated Agios Fanourios, the Chinese-operated Alicia and RHN, and the Iranian-flagged container ship Golbon, according to Iran’s semi-official Tasnim and Mehr news agencies.

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US military: Blockade has "completely halted" Iran's sea trade​

US Central Command said late Tuesday that the US “blockade of Iranian ports has been fully implemented” and it has “completely halted” Iran’s economic sea trade.

In a statement posted on X, Adm. Brad Cooper, the commander of CENTCOM, said, “In less than 36 hours since the blockade was implemented, U.S. forces have completely halted economic trade going in and out of Iran by sea.”

 

[Vol737]

Food crisis on deck in Australia and Asia due to worsening fertilizer availability. The geopolitical timing of all this as we are precariously close to the brink financially, along with many well respected in the financial markets world (e.g. Ray Dalio, etc.) that are now saying there’s no way out here, is reason for everyone to pause and to assess their current situation.

 

[MontyPython]

If I broke into your house at supper time and turned your table over and trashed the house because I didn't like what you were eating, you'd be okay with that, right? I was just exercising my right to free speech.

Dude, that's a goofy take on 1st amendment rights. Come on now.

You're describing felony level breaking and entering, as well as assault and battery.

 

[OrangeTsar]