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norrislakevol said:
Yes. This is why I have been very nervous when Ukraine targets Russian oil. They produce significantly larger amounts of petrol than Iran does. The U.S. can probably cover a chunk of long term Iranian oil output losses for the global market, but long term shut down of Russian oil could spell disaster for a great many people, not just in fuel for vehicles, but to regional food supplies. Asia is already nervous about the middle east because of fuel and fertilizer, if Russia is taken off line long term then things get really bad, really quick. Hungry bellies lead to revolution, and then you never know what you get in the end. It's a global petrol economy, in general.

I am sure that Ukraine has already been told this, and cooler heads have prevailed.
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This sounds like the Biden apology for his Russia policy.
 
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EasternVol said:
It sounds like you have a narrow view of what's going on in the world. The last time I paid much attention, there was more terrorism in South America and South Asia from non-Muslims than there was elsewhere from self-described Muslims, and that was well after 9/11.
What are the major threats to world peace today? There's Russia with Ukraine, Israel with their neighbors, PRC with ROC, NK with SK, and who else?
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How much Asian and South American terrorism is directed at the U.S.? Let the people affected take care of it. In the First World Radical Islam is the biggest threat particularly if armed with nuclear weapons. Ukraine is really none of our concern in my mind, we shouldn't get involved in a Russian civil war.
We have the Chinese and thereby the North Koreans under our thumb, the past year has been a master class on that and China is reeling.
Say what you like, the world order has changed and the person responsible is Donald J. Trump. He had the vision and the balls to do it.
End. Of. Story. Youngun.
 
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rikberry31 said:
How much Asian and South American terrorism is directed at the U.S.? Let the people affected take care of it. In the First World Radical Islam is the biggest threat particularly if armed with nuclear weapons. Ukraine is really none of our concern in my mind, we shouldn't get involved in a Russian civil war.
We have the Chinese and thereby the North Koreans under our thumb, the past year has been a master classon that and China is reeling.
Say what you like, the world order has change and the person responsible is Donald J. Trump. He had the vision and the balls to do it.
End. Of. Story. Youngun.
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Yes, Trump took Valenzuela away from China and Iranian oil. People refuse to see or don't understand that China has been trying to get a foothold in South America Central America for years
 
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MontyPython said:
Now Witkoff and Kushner are joining Vice President JD Vance for new talks in Islamabad.

So the US must still ultimately negotiate with whatever leaders it can find in Iran. The regime has maintained that, as a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Iran is within its legal ability to enrich uranium for an energy program.

In exchange for putting that aside, the regime is likely, just as in the Obama era, to insist on the lifting of sanctions on Iran’s oil. But now Iran will also want to formalize its control of the Strait of Hormuz, which means the regime could have more power than it did before.
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And monkeys want to fly. They can demand whatever they want, the are out of cards.
 
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trout-vol said:
Yes, Trump took Valenzuela away from China and Iranian oil. People refuse to see or don't understand that China has been trying to get a foothold in South America Central America for years
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One of Trump's biggest accomplishment will not be the border, it will be changing the world order. We will no longer do the world's bidding, they will do ours.
 
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rikberry31 said:
One of Trump's biggest accomplishment will not be the boarder, it will be changing the world order. We will no longer do the world's bidding, they will do ours.
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I think what's so bad is that the European leaders are fine with their country becoming third world Outpost. They're basically interviewing for the next European Union position. They have no concern about their own countrymen. This is what globalism does and the left is all about globalism
 
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EasternVol said:
It sounds like you have a narrow view of what's going on in the world. The last time I paid much attention, there was more terrorism in South America and South Asia from non-Muslims than there was elsewhere from self-described Muslims, and that was well after 9/11.
What are the major threats to world peace today? There's Russia with Ukraine, Israel with their neighbors, PRC with ROC, NK with SK, and who else?
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It sounds like you have a naive and foolish Google view of reality. There's more to life than Google son. Use you brain and develop some common sense.
 
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VAVol85 said:
Apparently you base reality on a single data point. SA has been pressing US all along to wipe the floor with Iran. The fact that some unnamed SA “official” now wants us to stop abusing Iran is inconsistent. Everybody, including the US, wants this to end and would like to see negotiations. They will happen when Iran feels enough pressure.
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"Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudi crown prince, wants Donald Trump to lift his naval quarantine of Iranian ports in the Persian Gulf and return to negotiations, Gulf diplomats say.

The Saudi lobbying reflects concerns in Riyadh that Tehran would retaliate against the US blockade by instructing its Houthi allies in Yemen to seal the Bab al-Mandeb Strait, a Red Sea chokepoint through which much of the kingdom’s oil supplies pass.

The abrupt shift by the Arab world’s lone Iran hawk – first reported by the Wall Street Journal and confirmed to The Telegraph by two Gulf officials — has emerged amid growing regional anxiety about Mr Trump’s handling of the war."
 
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NashVol11 said:
There's a lot more hatred toward Muslims in this thread and forum than toward America. America is supposed to be a melting pot, so the people constantly picking out minority groups to scream at seem more hateful than anyone else
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Problem is that most of the muslims don't melt. They infiltrate and try to set up a caliphate. The melting pot is assimilation, becoming an American. For the most part they want none of it. They are setting up their home country on American welfare.
I have no problem with anyone who wants to come here and be an American. Americans don't usually protest America waving other countries flags. Yeah I have a problem with that.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Problem is that most of the muslims don't melt. They infiltrate and try to set up a caliphate. The melting pot is assimilation, becoming an American. For the most part they want none of it. They are setting up their home country on American welfare.
I have no problem with anyone who wants to come here and be an American. Americans don't usually protest America waving other countries flags. Yeah I have a problem with that.
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You have a problem with free speech?

Color me surprised.
 
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rikberry31 said:
If I broke into your house at supper time and turned your table over and trashed the house because I didn't like what you were eating, you'd be okay with that, right? I was just exercising my right to free speech.
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I'll engage when you can present a valid comparison to protesting our government in a nonviolent manner that's well within the 1st Amendment.
 
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