GAME THREAD: Texas in Knoxville, Sunday, 2/15, 3pm EST, ABC

[docholiday]

Of the people who can’t bring themselves to appreciate the effort that brought Tennessee within three points of a major win today, I’d like to know which of them had Tennessee penciled in to win it? My guess is that most people had this penciled in as a loss the same day the schedule came out months ago.

I don’t see anything wrong with being proud of the heart and effort they gave today. I’m just a loser, I guess, but I’m sure not going to spend the next few days bItching about this game.

Thank you, Lady Vols, for playing so hard today!

Your a winner! Regardless of the B.S. in this thread. They are going to win big here.
Patience.

 

[volsagain]

She passes up her shot opportunities. She needs Tess Darby to show her how to get her shot off.

She's a freshman and still trigger shy . She will have more chances next year in pre non conference games.

 

[Golfteacher]

The LVs played a great game, but a loss leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth. They proved that they can hang with a top ten team they just need to move it forward. They need to continue to play with the same grit and same attitude.

 

[LVol]

The slick hair man ref. Rewatch the game and look at all his calls.

Or the pencil neck geek

 

[JohnTN]

I wonder if officiating would get less criticism if the game was called by the rules: no palming the ball, no feet shuffle or eurosteps and most importantly offensive foul when player jumps into the defender to create contact.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

She passes up her shot opportunities. She needs Tess Darby to show her how to get her shot off.

She has the talent to hit her shots. When she is on the floor, she can't be shy. Take the shot when it is there.

 

[volfannga]

Inept or intentional

A few years ago at a baseball regional the NCAA's very first announcement before the game was about officiating. They said officials and umpires are getting out at a rate 4X those getting in. Hostile environments at travel ball games is enough to get many to quit. I would guess as the pot gets smaller we are left with the worst.

 

[CannonVol80]

Which of the refs was on the take?

Rooster, my young pal, none of the refs had to be "on the take" to be as distressingly bad as they were today. And, just so you'll know that I'm an equal opportunity complainer - I grouse about the refs when my Lady Vols win, as well!

Jim

 

[CannonVol80]

She had a great handle, and was able to deal with ball pressure, not the same situation.

Bobbitt was 5'2" and came to the Lady Vols from JC. Comparison to a true freshman playing in her first D-1 season is also not the same situation.

Jim

 

[casetopia]

if spearman or Latham had done anything at all we win this game. 2 pts each is certainly not gonna cut it.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Rooster, my young pal, none of the refs had to be "on the take" to be as distressingly bad as they were today. And, just so you'll know that I'm an equal opportunity complainer - I grouse about the refs when my Lady Vols win, as well!

Jim

I am with you, much prefer during and after wins, and try to feature graphic backup to my charges. I would love someone to provide equivalent QUESTIONABLE calls in terms of impact. Baker’s 5th foul will be hard to match. The 2 Prawl calls in question easily captured.

Really would like others analysis on the contact on 55’s shot with contact and no call. Had to go one way or the other.

Love to hear others thoughts on distribution of 50/50 calls and no-calls for overall impact. When one team has no fouls and already in bonus it begs the question of no-calls. Possible, but.,.,,

Loud instant reactions from crowds is a clue, especially on no-calls.

 

[backdoorcutvol]

I though wolfenbarger played decent today had just as much production as Zee

 

[Voltopia]

I am with you, much prefer during and after wins, and try to feature graphic backup to my charges. I would love someone to provide equivalent QUESTIONABLE calls in terms of impact. Baker’s 5th foul will be hard to match. The 2 Prawl calls in question easily captured.

Really would like others analysis on the contact on 55’s shot with contact and no call. Had to go one way or the other.

Love to hear others thoughts on distribution of 50/50 calls and no-calls for overall impact. When one team has no fouls and already in bonus it begs the question of no-calls. Possible, but.,.,,

Loud instant reactions from crowds is a clue, especially on no-calls.

Sometimes. Sometimes the crowd is flat wrong. I've seen Tennessee crowds boo calls like they were murder charges ... aaaaaand then you watch the jumbotron and go "oh, yeah, that was actually pass interference." Or a basketball player falls over - the crowd roars, as they were surely hit! - and then you watch the replay and realize that player deserved an Oscar. Or at least a Daytime Emmy.

That said, I totally agree about one team having no fouls while the other is in the bonus. Especially with how physical a defense they were playing that quarter. It's not that they committed a million fouls that weren't called. It's that you're asked to believe that *every* call, every 50/50, every questionable bump or hit -- all of Tennessee's were fouls, and Texas never ever fouled. Uh huh. Sure. Sure thing.

 

[Lucy]

She wouldn’t have done anything in this game anyway, she struggles against top 5 teams, dropping for. 2nd to 7th or 8th in the last 2 weeks of the season, is a total failure.

This is silly.

 

[Nute Gunray]

if spearman or Latham had done anything at all we win this game. 2 pts each is certainly not gonna cut it.

Both were in foul trouble. Include Barker also even though she scored 12 points, she would have scored more if not in foul trouble. Foul trouble and turnovers cost The LVs a win.

 

[cabbie191]

I tuned in for the second half, and without making any commentary on the teams' play, I was really taken aback about the number of fouls called. I just thought too many puzzling and tacky fouls were called, and I really thought Tennessee got the worst of it.

Got me interested in looking up some data related to fouls in WCBB.

A couple of things I found -

1) A couple of analyses I read both stated that there are more fouls called in the "average" SEC game than any of the other conferences, though the difference between high and low is less than 2 fouls per games.

2) The average number of fouls called in SEC games is about 37, which is what was called in today's game. But having more than twice as many called on the Lady Vols? That doesn't sit right.

 

[TnVolsX4]

Question? Did we play the last play with only 4 players due to a player falling down and hurting an ankle while trying to setup in the corner?

Yeah weird. Slipped or something. Ended up with 4 watching 1

 

[UT Challenger]

I never said the refs were out to get Tennessee.

I implied the officiating sucked. Because it sucked.

"Style of play" has nothing to do with watching Texas play extremely physical defense for an entire quarter and come away with no fouls calls. It has nothing to do with watching them whistle Tennessee multiple times in the last two minutes for "fouls" that even the announcers said were impossible to see on replay.

Conspiracy, no conspiracy, I don't care. I don't care why they made horrible foul calls. I just care that they made them. The stripes stunk it up today.

The officiating did suck in this game. I was at the game today. As bad as it was we missed our chance for a win with turnovers and missed foul shots. Back to the officiating. The 1 ref made sure that Texas would get the benefit of calls. The 2 other refs were not as bad as the slick haired dude. There was a call on Texas in the first quarter that went against them. Old Vic jumped up slung his coat off and chewed on slick hairs butt from there on the calls went Texas way. Our coach is going to have to toughen up and learn how to work the refs. She stands on the side line quite as a church mouse and never gets in their face. As a coach you have to stand up for your players they can't say anything to the refs but she can. All coach Summit had to do was give them the stare when she did not like the way the game was being called. Officiating was bad and has been bad all season. Like I said turnovers and foul shots cost us the game.

 

[Lucy]

Our ladies played their hearts out. They obviously came up short, but they should be proud of the fight they showed today. I know I am!

I hope they take confidence from this game. Being competitive today could really help going forward.

 

[Nute Gunray]

I do not like concentrating on one player but Zee Spearman has decided not to play basketball with the Lady Vols. Coach Caldwell needs to help Spearman correct this problem or sit her on the bench. The LVs would have won the Texas game with a more decent effort from Spearman in spite of her 4 personal fouls.

 

[dtnvol]

Of the people who can’t bring themselves to appreciate the effort that brought Tennessee within three points of a major win today, I’d like to know which of them had Tennessee penciled in to win it? My guess is that most people had this penciled in as a loss the same day the schedule came out months ago.

I don’t see anything wrong with being proud of the heart and effort they gave today. I’m just a loser, I guess, but I’m sure not going to spend the next few days bItching about this game.

Thank you, Lady Vols, for playing so hard today!

 

[vols90]

The officiating did suck in this game. I was at the game today. As bad as it was we missed our chance for a win with turnovers and missed foul shots. Back to the officiating. The 1 ref made sure that Texas would get the benefit of calls. The 2 other refs were not as bad as the slick haired dude. There was a call on Texas in the first quarter that went against them. Old Vic jumped up slung his coat off and chewed on slick hairs butt from there on the calls went Texas way. Our coach is going to have to toughen up and learn how to work the refs. She stands on the side line quite as a church mouse and never gets in their face. As a coach you have to stand up for your players they can't say anything to the refs but she can. All coach Summit had to do was give them the stare when she did not like the way the game was being called. Officiating was bad and has been bad all season. Like I said turnovers and foul shots cost us the game.

I just said today that the angry chipmunk needs to show out on the refs every once in a while! Lol

 

[DarkPhoenix]

This is silly.

I was responding to someone that said we could drop to 7th, to me going from 2nd to 7th in a 2 week span, that tells me me loss most of our games down the stretch, I’m never going to be ok with that.

 

[chuckiepoo]

I was repo ding to someone that said we could drop to 7th, to me going from 2nd to 7th in a 2 week span, that tells me me loss most of our games down the stretch, I’m never going to be ok with that.

The part that was silly was the claim that Mia would not have made a difference, a claim you can base on the Sakerlina game. Problem: basketball is not transitive.

 

[texas_vol2]

It was a tough loss that we should have won. In rethinking the whole game I don't think I'm comfy blaming the refs. Certain things are out of the players control. There are a couple of thing that are . . . what is good about <50% foul shooting? It's the one thing you can practice by yourself, anytime. What is terrific about 23 turnovers? I can't believe we are going to beat many good teams with that many lost opportunities.