Aguilar / Chambliss 6th Year Eligibility

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It's as though those supporting Joey A returning don't realize his argument is about earning potential, not specifically JUCO time, but that the NCAA is violating Antitrust Law by restricting his ability to earn with the time limit.

For Joey A to win the NCAA will need to agree that they can't put time limits on a player's ability to earn money at all, not just JUCO time.... at all.

Joey A winning opens the door to Joey A or someone else going into their 7th or 8th or 10th year at UT.

So we've abandoned the "I hate that college ball is becoming pro ball" idea?
 
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2 different lawsuits.Joey is in a class action suit with any active player having played JUCO to have their JUCO years removed.Chambliss had his tonsils removed one year and is applying for medical.He/Ole Miss have already got his contact for next year .Its a smart move if he’s denied he can sue the NCAA for his contract
 
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farmdogvol said:
He wasn't injured, he missed 2 weeks because of Mono. He already took a Redshirt year. JA is the Junior college situation, they have already given it to Pavia, so precedent is there for JA.
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So he missed only 2 weeks and could play in the other games? I thought medical redshirt was for an extended period of time? Lots of players are out for 2 weeks and do not medically redshirt.
 
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rocytop2624 said:
Joey has 2 year's at app st and 1 with us. So Joey should have an extra year if juco doesn't count.
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Yes but the difference is of Chambliss’ 5 years playing, one was a redshirt effectively playing 4 seasons. Joey played all five of his so that’s why Chambliss is favored. I personally don’t think either should win. Either limited their time and make no exceptions or let them play 10 years if they want to. I’m fine with Joey being gone.
 
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LWSVOL said:
I think it is two different processes.

Chambliss is appealing to the NCAA for a 6th year based on injury history

Joey is tied up in court..no one can alter a judges timeline..

Unless I've misunderstood something
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Yup two different things.
As for Joey, He doesn't need a ruling, he just needs a judge to give him an injunction like Pavia was given which would allow him to proceed as if he's eligible.
I think it'll be a while before the actual case is heard and honestly I don't think the NCAA is in any hurry for it to be heard. Judge grants an injunction they can say we'll we tried.
NCAA already screwing up letting kids that played pro ball come back
 
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VOLinAL said:
Yes but the difference is of Chambliss’ 5 years playing, one was a redshirt effectively playing 4 seasons. Joey played all five of his so that’s why Chambliss is favored. I personally don’t think either should win. Either limited their time and make no exceptions or let them play 10 years if they want to. I’m fine with Joey being gone.
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I think eventually it'll be settled that JUCO ball doesn't count since it's not NCAA ball.
 
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The Future said:
Looks like they're both going for a 6th year. From what media has said, Chambliss will know within a week, if he's eligible. So he can bolt straight to LSU..... after the season.. Hunhh...While Aguilar waits and waits and waits for his eligibility. Makes me wonder, are we not lawyered up properly? I mean, I by know means, knows the court systems. But it seems as though we always get the slow roll when it comes to judicial.
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Chambliss is staying at Ole Miss if he is eligible
 
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TheVolsFrog said:
I think eventually it'll be settled that JUCO ball doesn't count since it's not NCAA ball.
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Perhaps, but the question being asked in the suit is: What gives the NCAA the right to keep a player from earning money by limiting the amount of time they can play?

If the answer is the NCAA can't put limits on a player's earning by "timing them out" the next logical step is players being able to sue to play as long as a school will enroll them and play them.

That should help college football, right?
 
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Unconditional Surrender said:
Come back, Hendon.
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That's where this is headed.

People are saying "the NCAA can't just arbitrarily say JUCO time counts" but Joey is arguing that it's about his inability to earn money with the "time out" rule related to JUCO.

So why can't Joey argue exactly the same next year? "The NCAA is keeping me from earning money with an arbitrary time limit."

If he can win one, he can win the other.
 
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All players should go juco for 2 years, then red shirt a year or 2, then play at university level for 4 years (switching schools each year). And by then they should have enough NIL saved up to retire. They’ll be to old to play in the NFL.
 
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rocketskates said:
This. Already said he’s coming back to Ole Miss if granted the extra year. Ole Miss having success in the playoffs is kinda funny because I feel like it takes some of the wind out of Kiffin’s sails. So long as they aren’t playing us I hope they are successful next year and LSU tanks. At some point the universe has to get its pound of flesh from Lane.
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It would also cause a massive outrage if he declared for LSU while still competing for a NC.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Perhaps, but the question being asked in the suit is: What gives the NCAA the right to keep a player from earning money by limiting the amount of time they can play?

If the answer is the NCAA can't put limits on a player's earning by "timing them out" the next logical step is players being able to sue to play as long as a school will enroll them and play them.

That should help college football, right?
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Nobody is guaranteed a job, no different that contract work for x amount of time. There are other options for them to earn money CFL,NFL, USFL.
 
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The Future said:
Looks like they're both going for a 6th year. From what media has said, Chambliss will know within a week, if he's eligible. So he can bolt straight to LSU..... after the season.. Hunhh...While Aguilar waits and waits and waits for his eligibility. Makes me wonder, are we not lawyered up properly? I mean, I by know means, knows the court systems. But it seems as though we always get the slow roll when it comes to judicial.
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It's best to look at the specifics of each case. Chambliss is trying for a retroactive redshirt year when he only played in 2 games a couple of seasons ago
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Pavia isn’t going for another year.
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Yes he is, Joey is one of the 26 other players who have joined his lawsuit that seeks to discount Juco time as time against your NCAA clock, since the NCAA has nothing to do with Juco.

Pavia is entering the draft and suing to retain his eligibility after the draft is over to see if he wants to return or go pro. The NCAA allowed a player drafted by the NBA to return to play college recently and his lawyer jumped on it.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Joey and Pavia will be decided at the same time. I believe they will likely win. The NCAA and Juco are not associated with one another. Everyone else gets 5 years to play 4 years of NCAA football regardless of whether they went to prep school after high school, just to high school, or played pro baseball for 6 years then went to play football. The same reasoning that let the two of them play a 3rd year of NCAA football should apply to being able to play their 4th year.
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Pavia has already played 4 years of NCAA football where as Joey has only played 3 years. I see Pavia losing his case but Joey possibly winning his.
 
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TheVolsFrog said:
Nobody is guaranteed a job, no different that contract work for x amount of time. There are other options for them to earn money CFL,NFL, USFL.
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Yes, but you cannot just arbitrarily set wholesale market limits. This Antitrust issue is what started NIL, transfers, etc.

Why shouldn't the NCAA be able to restrict NIL? It's their league and their rules. Because they don't have the right to restrict competition like that.

Why shouldn't the NCAA be able to restrict transfers? Because they don't have the right to restrict competition like that.

Why shouldn't the NCAA be able to restrict how long someone can play? Because they don't have the right to restrict competition like that.

It's a loss for the NCAA but it's not a loss you're going to like.
 
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The Future said:
Looks like they're both going for a 6th year. From what media has said, Chambliss will know within a week, if he's eligible. So he can bolt straight to LSU..... after the season.. Hunhh...While Aguilar waits and waits and waits for his eligibility. Makes me wonder, are we not lawyered up properly? I mean, I by know means, knows the court systems. But it seems as though we always get the slow roll when it comes to judicial.
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If a guy on Ohio State asked for another year, the decision would have taken 20 minutes and they would have said, why don’t we just make it two years for you.
 
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farmdogvol said:
He wasn't injured, he missed 2 weeks because of Mono. He already took a Redshirt year. JA is the Junior college situation, they have already given it to Pavia, so precedent is there for JA.
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Chambliss did not play any games in 2022. He is retroactively seeking a medical redshirt for that season because he dealt with persistent respiratory issues that ultimately led to surgery to remove his tonsils.

In 2022, while at Ferris State, Trinidad Chambliss did not play in any games, taking a redshirt season after initially redshirting in 2021, and is currently seeking a medical redshirt for that season to gain an extra year of eligibility with Ole Miss.
Key Details:
  • 2021: Took a traditional redshirt year at Ferris State.
  • 2022: Did not play any games due to persistent respiratory issues that led to surgery.
  • Waiver Request: Chambliss is asking the NCAA for a medical redshirt for the 2022 season to gain an extra year of eligibility, as Division II redshirt rules differed from Division I at the time.
  • Current Status (Early 2026): He has agreed to return to Ole Miss for the 2026 season, pending the NCAA's approval of his eligibility waiver.
 
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CAVPUT said:
True, but I thought a judge was going to rule not the NCAA? Might be wrong. If it is the NCAA, we need to just forget about Aguilar and move on....which is my preference anyway.
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Good thing your opinion doesn't matter
 
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If this keeps up? Players are gonna run out of eligibility a few days before they are eligible for social security. Then again, they will probably keep raising that age too.
 
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