Aguilar / Chambliss 6th Year Eligibility

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YankeeVol said:
Or those who serve in the military and then go to college.
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Yeah, it's really silly to count non athletic, non enrolled years but I suspect it will soon be impossible for the NCAA to enforce any "you've timed out of eligiblity" rules because the legal attack is: you can't manipulate the market and hurt my ability to earn money from playing.

It's been a persuasive argument so far for antitrust lawsuits against the NCAA. We'll see if it works on time of eligibility rules.
 
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Pennheel said:
It really sucks to hear about Chambliss. I was rooting for the guy to get an extra year and that it actually made sense. If someone like him doesn't get it, I'm really doubtful about Aguilar.

All that being said,it's amazing Beck is playing for a national championship in his 7th year.
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Beck got the COVID extra year and redshirt year which makes 6 but how'd he get 7?
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
Beck got to Georgia in 2020
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I don't understand why he still had any eligibility left unless they say the redshirt in 2020 didn't count and he was able to use 2021 as a redshirt year:

2020 - redshirted
2021 - played in 4 games
2022 - played in 7 games
2023 - played 14 games
2024 - played 13 games
2025 - played all games

Must be saying 2021 did not count.
 
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Pennheel said:
It really sucks to hear about Chambliss. I was rooting for the guy to get an extra year and that it actually made sense. If someone like him doesn't get it, I'm really doubtful about Aguilar.

All that being said,it's amazing Beck is playing for a national championship in his 7th year.
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Joey and the others case is better IMO They're arguing JUCO years don't count since it's not NCAA ball
Chambliss had 5 years of NCAA ball
 
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volfan102455 said:
I don't understand why he still had any eligibility left unless they say the redshirt in 2020 didn't count and he was able to use 2021 as a redshirt year:

2020 - redshirted
2021 - played in 4 games
2022 - played in 7 games
2023 - played 14 games
2024 - played 13 games
2025 - played all games

Must be saying 2021 did not count.
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COVID "free year" everyone got
 
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volfan102455 said:
I don't understand why he still had any eligibility left unless they say the redshirt in 2020 didn't count and he was able to use 2021 as a redshirt year:

2020 - redshirted
2021 - played in 4 games
2022 - played in 7 games
2023 - played 14 games
2024 - played 13 games
2025 - played all games

Must be saying 2021 did not count.
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2020 essentially doesn't count for anyone since it was COVID.
2021 was a Redshirt year (4 games is the max you can play for that).
 
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Carp said:
Chambliss denied. Haven't heard anything on Joey yet. Certainly not promising though.
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Weird. But I may be wrong in my recollections. I was thinking there was already presedence for a medical redshirt even if the standard redshirt has already been exhausted. Hence, calling it a medical.
 
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volfan102455 said:
He had 2 redshirt years?? I thought you only got 5 to play four.

If they rule in his favor - then players could use medical to be able to play 4 in 6, 7, etc. Interesting.
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The NCAA in some cases didn’t count 2020 because of Covid year, that’s why they accepted the injunction for Pavia and waived the Covid year.
 
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Carp said:
Only 6 yrs of eligibility. But since he started college in 2020 and he's still playing now in 2026, he's technically in year 7 of playing college football.
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That math don't work on my fingers. Fall 2020 (1). Fall 2021 (2). Fall 2022 (3). Fall 2023 (4). Fall 2024(5). Fall 2025 (6). How you pull a 7 out of a 6. And how did he even stretch his eligibility into 6 years to play 4. 4 and a redshirt is 5. Covid. nm.
 
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GVF said:
That math don't work on my fingers. Fall 2020 (1). Fall 2021 (2). Fall 2022 (3). Fall 2023 (4). Fall 2024(5). Fall 2025 (6). How you pull a 7 out of a 6. And how did he even stretch his eligibility into 6 years to play 4. 4 and a redshirt is 5. Covid. nm.
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He enrolled in Jan of 2020. He redshirted for the 2020 season. He then spent 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 as his regular 4 year eligibility. For 2025, he used his additonal COVID year. That's 6 years.

If they were serious about the "7th year" thing,. then they are including these games in 2026 as the start of his 7th "year" though he clearly he isn't spending any more time in college. It's closer to 6 full years and some change rather than a 7th year.

It's also possible they just made an error on the teleprompter/note cards.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm unsure why a non athletic mission should count against athletic eligibility unless you just dislike the LDS Church (I'm not a fan nor member, BTW) for some reason. You'll likely lose that lawsuit on religious discrimination grounds anyway.

Besides, why 5 years really? And grad transfers, allowed or not? We'd lose Hooker and Milton and I think Joey A without grad transfers.

What Joey A's lawsuit is showing is that the NCAA arbitrarily limiting NIL money or transfers by sitting out or the total years of eligibility is just a scam to "make it work how we want it" regardless of the NCAA having a legal right to make those kinds of market stifling rules.

Sure, the old way "worked great" but illegal businesses often do work rather well.
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No shade against BYU, but it definitely gives them an edge. All their guys are way too big and strong. I think the religious discrimination argument proves my point. What I'm saying is just close all the loopholes. 5 years. If you want to say 6, then that's fine too. You can play for 4 in the NCAA, and what you do with the other year then becomes irrelevant. Redshirt, JUCO, semi-pro, whatever floats your boat. Use more than the extra year (or 2) on that and you can only play for 3. Just a simple rule with no exceptions.

The only thing I hadn't considered were the military. But how many guys serve 4 years in the military and then go to college and play football? I can't imagine many. Maybe some play more minor sports, but if you are good enough to play out of high school, odds are that you aren't going to the military first. Just my opinion.

The fact that we are even having this discussion (not to mention the portal and NIL) just shows how broken the entire system really is.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
I am NOW for 5 for 5 PERIOD, post HS. Like to add the student can transfer after a redshirt year AFTER he or the receiving school repays the documented tuition and room and board. Not coaching, medical and other expenses. NIL negotiable maybe.
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It is 5 for 5 where the NCAA has jurisdiction. They have zero jurisdiction over JUCO.
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
It is 5 for 5 where the NCAA has jurisdiction. They have zero jurisdiction over JUCO.
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5 years after you graduate from any secondary school. Stops at prep, Juco, Dollar General, WWE, or ANYWHERE all the same. Time is up. Don’t like it go to NAIA.

But it is not presently 5 for 5. It is 5 to play 4.and then appeal a bunch.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
5 years after you graduate from any secondary school. Stops at prep, Juco, Dollar General, WWE, or ANYWHERE all the same. Time is up. Don’t like it go to NAIA.

But it is not presently 5 for 5. It is 5 to play 4.
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Then why doesn't pro ball count?

And you are also suggesting that other activities count as well - like military and missionary work.
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
It is 5 for 5 where the NCAA has jurisdiction. They have zero jurisdiction over JUCO.
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That’s why I feel Joey and the others on the Pavia lawsuit have a case imo.

If you say JUCO counts then what about HS players taking JUCO classes playing HS sports. They can graduate from HS with a 2yr degree. Also some states allow HS to make NiL deals.

NCAA then turns around and lets a player who was drafted by the NBA even though he didn’t sign a NBA contract he went overseas and played Pro Ball there and the NCAA allowed him back.

So you telling me it’s ok to go play in a pro league and then come back to play NCAA ball but JUCO is a big no no.
 
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