Aguilar / Chambliss 6th Year Eligibility

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Not sure the lawsuit will or is seeking to argue that NCAA cannot set a time limit. You can play pro baseball and then start the clock by enrolling in an NCAA sport. I would think the argument would be you cannot start the clock for people who have not ever entered the NCAA, meaning treat those in JUCO the way you would treat those who played minor league ball, or served their required time on the military or spent a year playing Xbox in the parents basement, whatever.
 
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Cobb-Webb 1989 said:
Chambliss did not play any games in 2022. He is retroactively seeking a medical redshirt for that season because he dealt with persistent respiratory issues that ultimately led to surgery to remove his tonsils.

In 2022, while at Ferris State, Trinidad Chambliss did not play in any games, taking a redshirt season after initially redshirting in 2021, and is currently seeking a medical redshirt for that season to gain an extra year of eligibility with Ole Miss.
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  • 2021: Took a traditional redshirt year at Ferris State.
  • 2022: Did not play any games due to persistent respiratory issues that led to surgery.
  • Waiver Request: Chambliss is asking the NCAA for a medical redshirt for the 2022 season to gain an extra year of eligibility, as Division II redshirt rules differed from Division I at the time.
  • Current Status (Early 2026): He has agreed to return to Ole Miss for the 2026 season, pending the NCAA's approval of his eligibility waiver.
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Yep. That's an entirely different matter than Joey's case
 
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JUCO and Prep School were used in the past to get Grades up for Athletes that did not meet the entry level Academic Standards.

I guess you could call it a farm league.

Should it ever been counted to NCAA years, Prep Schools were not so why was JUCO? Think about the players that went to JUCO some were able to get to back into a school.
IMO, These players should not be penalized years for playing at JUCO.

The NCAA never adjusted as resources became available to help those with learning disabilities or those that had to go to local because of family or affordability.

In Essence, the NCAA never adjusted to the times which is the case for many areas. So they should be awarded the time. Not everybody is a 4 year student. I would be willing to bet it is takes 5 years to graduate for Athletes.

The biggest problem in College Athletics is the NCAA. They create more problems than they fix. Hence the bias and the incompetent organization that does not know who to do its job. Plus, it has lost its bite of the 60s & 70's.

Like most organizations (Large). The left hand does not know what the Right hand is doing until one of the hands does something stupid.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
JUCO and Prep School were used in the past to get Grades up for Athletes that did not meet the entry level Academic Standards.

I guess you could call it a farm league.

Should it ever been counted to NCAA years, Prep Schools were not so why was JUCO? Think about the players that went to JUCO some were able to get to back into a school.
IMO, These players should not be penalized years for playing at JUCO.

The NCAA never adjusted as resources became available to help those with learning disabilities or those that had to go to local because of family or affordability.

In Essence, the NCAA never adjusted to the times which is the case for many areas. So they should be awarded the time. Not everybody is a 4 year student. I would be willing to bet it is takes 5 years to graduate for Athletes.

The biggest problem in College Athletics is the NCAA. They create more problems than they fix. Hence the bias and the incompetent organization that does not know who to do its job. Plus, it has lost its bite of the 60s & 70's.

Like most organizations (Large). The left hand does not know what the Right hand is doing until one of the hands does something stupid.
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I am NOW for 5 for 5 PERIOD, post HS. Like to add the student can transfer after a redshirt year AFTER he or the receiving school repays the documented tuition and room and board. Not coaching, medical and other expenses. NIL negotiable maybe.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
I am NOW for 5 for 5 PERIOD, post HS. Like to add the student can transfer after a redshirt year AFTER he or the receiving school repays the documented tuition and room and board. Not coaching, medical and other expenses. NIL negotiable maybe.
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Are all students required to pay back their scholarship money if they leave the school?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
It's as though those supporting Joey A returning don't realize his argument is about earning potential, not specifically JUCO time, but that the NCAA is violating Antitrust Law by restricting his ability to earn with the time limit.

For Joey A to win the NCAA will need to agree that they can't put time limits on a player's ability to earn money at all, not just JUCO time.... at all.

Joey A winning opens the door to Joey A or someone else going into their 7th or 8th or 10th year at UT.

So we've abandoned the "I hate that college ball is becoming pro ball" idea?
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This was the argument that Zeigler could not prevail on and they added NIL deals before the preliminary injunction hearing, which may have helped, may have hurt, but didn't sway the judge to get past the 4 seasons already played.

Aguillar added a fairly high visibility NIL deal to the pile over the holidays, he may get a year that Zeigler could not through the timeliness connected to the litigation, but we will have to sit back and watch
 
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TartanTurff said:
This was the argument that Zeigler could not prevail on and they added NIL deals before the preliminary injunction hearing, which may have helped, may have hurt, but didn't sway the judge to get past the 4 seasons already played.

Aguillar added a fairly high visibility NIL deal to the pile over the holidays, he may get a year that Zeigler could not through the timeliness connected to the litigation, but we will have to sit back and watch
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What NIL deal did Joey add
 
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Chambliss denied. Haven't heard anything on Joey yet. Certainly not promising though.
 
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Carp said:
Chambliss denied. Haven't heard anything on Joey yet. Certainly not promising though.
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Chambliss was trying to retro a medical redshirt wasn't he.

I still think Joey and the others saying JUCO years shouldn't count towards NCAA ball has a chance.
I also think the NCAA messed up allowing a guy that was drafted by the NBA but instead played proball overseas come back and play.
If you're gonna let a pro baller play some place else and be ok with it then why not JUCO that doesn't fall under your authority
 
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Joey should win his appeal. I'd say that's our guy this fall. SL will got to LSU or Miami. Lets load up on defense and roll with it.
 
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It was mentioned on the broadcast last night and I’m still trying to figure out how Carson Beck is in his 7th year of NCAA eligibility. If that’s true, it’s a joke.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
I am NOW for 5 for 5 PERIOD, post HS. Like to add the student can transfer after a redshirt year AFTER he or the receiving school repays the documented tuition and room and board. Not coaching, medical and other expenses. NIL negotiable maybe.
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100% agree. All athletes should have 5 years post high school to play. JUCO or a semi-pro league would all count toward that number. As would the 2 year mission for all of BYUs players. Once your 5 years are up, no more college eligibility. Would it stink for someone who gets hurt and loses the last year. Absolutely. Would it solve most of these problems. Absolutely.
 
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Delmar said:
It was mentioned on the broadcast last night and I’m still trying to figure out how Carson Beck is in his 7th year of NCAA eligibility. If that’s true, it’s a joke.
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Only 6 yrs of eligibility. But since he started college in 2020 and he's still playing now in 2026, he's technically in year 7 of playing college football.
 
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Murdock said:
100% agree. All athletes should have 5 years post high school to play. JUCO or a semi-pro league would all count toward that number. As would the 2 year mission for all of BYUs players. Once your 5 years are up, no more college eligibility. Would it stink for someone who gets hurt and loses the last year. Absolutely. Would it solve most of these problems. Absolutely.
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I'm unsure why a non athletic mission should count against athletic eligibility unless you just dislike the LDS Church (I'm not a fan nor member, BTW) for some reason. You'll likely lose that lawsuit on religious discrimination grounds anyway.

Besides, why 5 years really? And grad transfers, allowed or not? We'd lose Hooker and Milton and I think Joey A without grad transfers.

What Joey A's lawsuit is showing is that the NCAA arbitrarily limiting NIL money or transfers by sitting out or the total years of eligibility is just a scam to "make it work how we want it" regardless of the NCAA having a legal right to make those kinds of market stifling rules.

Sure, the old way "worked great" but illegal businesses often do work rather well.
 
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LWSVOL said:
I think it is two different processes.

Chambliss is appealing to the NCAA for a 6th year based on injury history

Joey is tied up in court..no one can alter a judges timeline..

Unless I've misunderstood something
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espn reports that chambliss has been denied a waiver by the ncaa
 
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Carp said:
Only 6 yrs of eligibility. But since he started college in 2020 and he's still playing now in 2026, he's technically in year 7 of playing college football.
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yeah it was a dumb statement. he's not playing 7seasons, but now that it's 2026 it's his seventh different year of playing college ball.
 
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Murdock said:
100% agree. All athletes should have 5 years post high school to play. JUCO or a semi-pro league would all count toward that number. As would the 2 year mission for all of BYUs players. Once your 5 years are up, no more college eligibility. Would it stink for someone who gets hurt and loses the last year. Absolutely. Would it solve most of these problems. Absolutely.
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm unsure why a non athletic mission should count against athletic eligibility unless you just dislike the LDS Church (I'm not a fan nor member, BTW) for some reason. You'll likely lose that lawsuit on religious discrimination grounds anyway.

Besides, why 5 years really? And grad transfers, allowed or not? We'd lose Hooker and Milton and I think Joey A without grad transfers.

What Joey A's lawsuit is showing is that the NCAA arbitrarily limiting NIL money or transfers by sitting out or the total years of eligibility is just a scam to "make it work how we want it" regardless of the NCAA having a legal right to make those kinds of market stifling rules.

Sure, the old way "worked great" but illegal businesses often do work rather well.
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Or those who serve in the military and then go to college.
 
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It really sucks to hear about Chambliss. I was rooting for the guy to get an extra year and that it actually made sense. If someone like him doesn't get it, I'm really doubtful about Aguilar.

All that being said,it's amazing Beck is playing for a national championship in his 7th year.
 
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