I agree with Lanning ...

[sami]

Yeah because we should leave it to the group that moved Ohio State to #2 after losing in their championship game after playing almost no one all year.

If Alabama can beat Indiana, it would thoroughly expose the Big 18 for the fraud conference it is, and even though Oregon is really a Pac 12 team, I'd love to see TT knock them off.

Ohio State played two good teams and got soundly beaten by both. Indiana is better, but they haven't beaten anyone outside of the Big 18 in the last two seasons.

 

[savannahfan]

Miami says hold my beer As how many people argued they didn’t belong.

They just justified the existence of the expanded playoffs. They manhandled tOSU last night And showed the fallacy of the pollsters and CFP committee who looks at W-L not the teams play.

tOSU has played 3 maybe 4 teams with a pulse and lost to 2 of them but the talking heads had them at #2 in nation.

If you don’t want to watch the early rounds don’t. I love them, I just have issues with the beauty pageant teams(G5, ND, Big12, etc..) that get in not the idea of expanded playoffs.

I got the impression that the TV crew were all in on OSU and really were disappointed when it became obvious they were going to get their As-es handed to them!

 

[savannahfan]

How To Make Bowl Games More Fun To Watch Than The Playoffs:

During the regular season players get 40% of their pay. Receive the remaining 60% after they play in the bowl games.
Losing bowl team forfeits 10% of their gross NIL pay. Losing coaches forfeit 10% of their gross pay. These monies go to the winning team to be split amongst them. That would be some serious money. You would see the most supreme effort from players and coaches to win their game. Would be the best game of the year.

Really going all in on turning the game to pro ball aren't you?

 

[camp_steveo]

Miami says hold my beer As how many people argued they didn’t belong.

They just justified the existence of the expanded playoffs. They manhandled tOSU last night And showed the fallacy of the pollsters and CFP committee who looks at W-L not the teams play.

tOSU has played 3 maybe 4 teams with a pulse and lost to 2 of them but the talking heads had them at #2 in nation.

If you don’t want to watch the early rounds don’t. I love them, I just have issues with the beauty pageant teams(G5, ND, Big12, etc..) that get in not the idea of expanded playoffs.

That's a good point.

I never liked letting writers rank teams. Let them figure it out on the field.

I say copy what the NFL does with division champs and runner ups, just extrapolate it over to the college football conferences. Add a few wildcards and that should be good enough.

Win your conference, or second place, and you should be in the CFP. Otherwise, go to a meaningless bowl game or call it a season.

In other words, do away with the committee.

 

[BreatheUT]

You read my post as “the playoff committee is perfect”?

No, but reducing the number of teams only enhance the flaws of the system. I predicted rightly that Ohio State would lose their first game event though they moved to #1 defeating an overrated Texas, last year result and was able to maintain the position due to a weak conference schedule with many mid teams. I don't mind if there is a better way to determine the most worthy 8.

 

[woodpusher]

I still think P4 conference championships should carry weight but no autobids for G5. No way 2 G5 teams should've got in.

You could make it where the 3 or 4 highest ranked conference champs get an autobid and the rest are at large. I'd rather go back to letting the BCS or similar system pick teams instead of a wishy-washy committee that can't make up their mind on criteria.

That's exactly what happened. Tulane and JMU were ranked higher than Duke.

 

[Enigmatic_Vol]

If he would have suggested the CFP to be only the top 8 teams it would have been perfect.

https://www.outkick.com/sports/dan-...-football-playoff-schedule-saturdays-sacred[U

http://I strongly agree with him!

 

[Boston Vol]

I still think P4 conference championships should carry weight but no autobids for G5. No way 2 G5 teams should've got in.

You could make it where the 3 or 4 highest ranked conference champs get an autobid and the rest are at large. I'd rather go back to letting the BCS or similar system pick teams instead of a wishy-washy committee that can't make up their mind on criteria.

There shouldn’t be auto bids at all.

 

[MurphyVol]

I'm in the opposite camp, shorten the season, scrap the conf champ games and go to a 24 team playoff. Get rid of most of the meaningless bowl games. Every playoff win comes with a significant roster bonus to lessen opt-outs.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Miami says hold my beer As how many people argued they didn’t belong.

They just justified the existence of the expanded playoffs. They manhandled tOSU last night And showed the fallacy of the pollsters and CFP committee who looks at W-L not the teams play.

tOSU has played 3 maybe 4 teams with a pulse and lost to 2 of them but the talking heads had them at #2 in nation.

If you don’t want to watch the early rounds don’t. I love them, I just have issues with the beauty pageant teams(G5, ND, Big12, etc..) that get in not the idea of expanded playoffs.

I agree. The question is the expansion to what. 16 teams should be about right. It is an even bracket. Do away with Conference Championships go to neutral sites Regionally. Group Regionally by location for balance.

Quit coddling the conferences. Develop a SOS and set of rules that serve to seed properly. Are some schools going to have to travel out of the region for balance yes, but that is football, basketball, baseball and any other sport.

No home team advantage. Put together a Committee that knows Football, not a bunch of ADs or administrators, or Representatives that may not have played a down in their entire life. No Bias.

Everybody is going to question every year why this team got in and that one did not. Some legit and some not so legit arguments. So be it. Conference Champions should have some weight but not automatic.

Example, the 1985 Tennessee team would have waltz through the CFP Playoffs easily. But would have never gotten into it with a 9-1-2 record. They finished 4th in the poll. They may not have made it into a 12 or 8 team playoff and definitely not a 4 team playoff.

They (ESPN & NCAA) needs to figure out how to fix this and both in their own rights have too much on their plates to do it. They can talk about it but they don't have the time to devote to it to fix it. Both organizations are overextended in coverage and in management to perform the duties required to manage one College sport vs 6 major sports (men & women-baseball/softball, football/soccer, M & W basketball.) The NCAA is an administrative agency not a governing one from the aspect that they have bite, but really no teeth. ESPN is really a bystander with a big mouth questioning what the NCAA has done or not done in subliminal tones.

A 32 - 40 team power conference maybe the way to go. Who gets in and who does not is the question.

 

[lilesrt]

If he would have suggested the CFP to be only the top 8 teams it would have been perfect.

Dan Lanning Says What Everyone Is Thinking About The Dragged-Out CFP Schedule

From month-long byes to a mid-January national championship, it's all a little too much.

www.outkick.com

Does a 12 or 16 team playoff generate more revenue than an 8 team playoff? Just curious.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

I got the impression that the TV crew were all in on OSU and really were disappointed when it became obvious they were going to get their As-es handed to them!

Told my son, Big10 homer announcers early during the game.

 

[mpfvol]

Honestly who cares if its 16 at least that would make more bowls watchable with no one opting out and gives more viewership. IMO
I like the 12 team should be at 16 you can never tell one of those 2 3 loss teams make get hot at the right time. And I like meaningful football.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

I agree. The question is the expansion to what. 16 teams should be about right. It is an even bracket. Do away with Conference Championships go to neutral sites Regionally. Group Regionally by location for balance.

Quit coddling the conferences. Develop a SOS and set of rules that serve to seed properly. Are some schools going to have to travel out of the region for balance yes, but that is football, basketball, baseball and any other sport.

No home team advantage. Put together a Committee that knows Football, not a bunch of ADs or administrators, or Representatives that may not have played a down in their entire life. No Bias.

Everybody is going to question every year why this team got in and that one did not. Some legit and some not so legit arguments. So be it. Conference Champions should have some weight but not automatic.

Example, the 1985 Tennessee team would have waltz through the CFP Playoffs easily. But would have never gotten into it with a 9-1-2 record. They finished 4th in the poll. They may not have made it into a 12 or 8 team playoff and definitely not a 4 team playoff.

They (ESPN & NCAA) needs to figure out how to fix this and both in their own rights have too much on their plates to do it. They can talk about it but they don't have the time to devote to it to fix it. Both organizations are overextended in coverage and in management to perform the duties required to manage one College sport vs 6 major sports (men & women-baseball/softball, football/soccer, M & W basketball.) The NCAA is an administrative agency not a governing one from the aspect that they have bite, but really no teeth. ESPN is really a bystander with a big mouth questioning what the NCAA has done or not done in subliminal tones.

A 32 - 40 team power conference maybe the way to go. Who gets in and who does not is the question.

16 ranked by computer and to be eligible you have to play at least 1 out of conference P4 team.

if the formula was weighted properly between SOS and SOResults you would see ND have to beat someone.

at least with computer we can tweak the formula but there is no bias to who got in.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

Agreed. Top 8. No auto bids. Shortens the calendar by one week so there’s less overlap between playoffs and the portal. Move the start of the regular season back another week too and you could finish the season before the portal so players aren’t opting out of playoffs games (Penn St backup QB last year)

Changing the portal window won't change opt outs.

 

[mpfvol]

I got the impression that the TV crew were all in on OSU and really were disappointed when it became obvious they were going to get their As-es handed to them!

They were very sad wasn't they lol you could easily tell who they wanted to win and it wasn't Miami

 

[Vol8188]

Changing the portal window won't change opt outs.

For playoff games, yes it will. I even provided a specific example of a playoff opt out due to the portal window. I also didn’t say change the portal window. I said change the season schedule so it ends prior to the portal window

 

[NATHAN05]

Better watch ESPN. They will have it a 64 team playoff if you let them. They want to control everything.

Yep.....and just look at their parent company. They are shady as heck. And i do believe they want to control literally everything. Nothing corrupts as fast as money and power.

 

[Vol865]

100% agree, have been screaming this for years. I believe that everyone with a clue wants this, but the powers that be have made it clear that they don't want to give up the control they have of the process.

If the ND / Miami thing didn't make it clear that this system is rigged, I'm not sure what will do it. The apologists (and ND haters) will rationalize that the outcome is justification, but the entire process was a disgrace with zero accountability or standards. And I am a ND hater.

Disagree that Miami shouldn't be in over them when they won H2H but ND should've been in before JMU.

 

[Vol865]

That's exactly what happened. Tulane and JMU were ranked higher than Duke.

That's with 5 auto bids

 

[Vol865]

There shouldn’t be auto bids at all.

Disagree

 

[Baseball25]

Changing the portal window won't change opt outs.

40% payout to them during the season and they receive the remaining 60% after they play in the bowl game. Opt out......no 60%.

 

[Baseball25]

I'm in the opposite camp, shorten the season, scrap the conf champ games and go to a 24 team playoff. Get rid of most of the meaningless bowl games. Every playoff win comes with a significant roster bonus to lessen opt-outs.

To me 24 teams is so watered down it makes the playoffs meaningless.

 

[sami]

I agree. The question is the expansion to what. 16 teams should be about right. It is an even bracket. Do away with Conference Championships go to neutral sites Regionally. Group Regionally by location for balance.

Quit coddling the conferences. Develop a SOS and set of rules that serve to seed properly. Are some schools going to have to travel out of the region for balance yes, but that is football, basketball, baseball and any other sport.

No home team advantage. Put together a Committee that knows Football, not a bunch of ADs or administrators, or Representatives that may not have played a down in their entire life. No Bias.

Everybody is going to question every year why this team got in and that one did not. Some legit and some not so legit arguments. So be it. Conference Champions should have some weight but not automatic.

Example, the 1985 Tennessee team would have waltz through the CFP Playoffs easily. But would have never gotten into it with a 9-1-2 record. They finished 4th in the poll. They may not have made it into a 12 or 8 team playoff and definitely not a 4 team playoff.

They (ESPN & NCAA) needs to figure out how to fix this and both in their own rights have too much on their plates to do it. They can talk about it but they don't have the time to devote to it to fix it. Both organizations are overextended in coverage and in management to perform the duties required to manage one College sport vs 6 major sports (men & women-baseball/softball, football/soccer, M & W basketball.) The NCAA is an administrative agency not a governing one from the aspect that they have bite, but really no teeth. ESPN is really a bystander with a big mouth questioning what the NCAA has done or not done in subliminal tones.

A 32 - 40 team power conference maybe the way to go. Who gets in and who does not is the question.

You make some good points but totally lose me with the bolded parts.

1. Eliminating home games is an absolute non-starter. If anything, every round until the 'final four' should be played at campus sites. The higher seeds earned the right to have that advantage, and one of the joys of college football is the campus environment that is totally lost with the sterile neutral sites. This isn't March Madness, and trying to compare the two sports is ridiculous.

2. Good luck finding a single human being with no bias or axe to grind - they don't exist. A computer algorythm is the only way we'll ever get lack of bias, which is why it will never happen. They will never give up control of the process.

3. A 32-40 team "power conference" automatically turns CFB into NFL Lite. It's amazing how many people looking for fixes really don't like college football - take away conferences and rivalries, and you've gutted college football.

 

[Vol_in_NC_1999]

Let's just make football a year round sport like hockey, golf and auto racing.