Whatever happened to Kwanzaa?

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Remember about 20 or so years ago when it seemed like there was this big push for the black community to celebrate Kwanzaa as an alternative to the "white man's" holiday, Christmas? You kind of saw it everywhere, in the media, merchandise on store shelves, etc. Then it seemed to just disappear. I always wondered who originally perpetuated that push, and why it never stuck.

I can still hear Bernie Mac saying "Happy Kwanzaa" to that shoplifter kid in Bad Santa! LOL!
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Remember about 20 or so years ago when it seemed like there was this big push for the black community to celebrate Kwanza as an alternative to the "white man's" holiday, Christmas? You kind of saw it everywhere, in the media, merchandise on store shelves, etc. Then it seemed to just disappear. I always wondered who originally perpetuated that push, and why it never stuck.

I can still hear Bernie Mac saying "Happy Kwanza" to that shoplifter kid in Bad Santa! LOL!
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I'd imagine the companies making greeting cards and other holiday related products were tired of losing money on it. It was a holiday made up in the 60s that some people connected with, but what looks to be more fun and appealing to kids, Kwanzaa or Christmas?
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Remember about 20 or so years ago when it seemed like there was this big push for the black community to celebrate Kwanzaa as an alternative to the "white man's" holiday, Christmas? You kind of saw it everywhere, in the media, merchandise on store shelves, etc. Then it seemed to just disappear. I always wondered who originally perpetuated that push, and why it never stuck.

I can still hear Bernie Mac saying "Happy Kwanzaa" to that shoplifter kid in Bad Santa! LOL!
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I think it was promoted by a well known and influential Sociology professor who taught at a college in California. Maybe Berkley?
I suspect it is celebrated by some. But Christmas is a juggernaut of a holiday and it is hard to compete against.
 
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Blacks in the US are more likely to identify as Christian than Whites. If you are Christian, you celebrate Christmas during the holiday season. So Kwanzaa was always going to be a tough sale.
 
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Boca Vol said:
No one knows what Kwanza is and no one knows what Juneteenth is. Fair trade.
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The second part is a sad statement on whites in the US. I can explain Juneteenth to you in about ten words, if you are still somehow confused about a 150-year-old holiday regarding one of the most important events in US history.

Reminds me of the Chris Rock joke about some people love to admit ignorance and say they don't know ****.
 
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I remember years ago (1990s, I recall) some TV station had a document on it. They tried to link it to some harvest celebration in Africa. Showed some African lady blessing her house using a bowl of mashed yams. My mom got a kick out of that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The second part is a sad statement on whites in the US. I can explain Juneteenth to you in about ten words, if you are still somehow confused about a 150-year-old holiday regarding one of the most important events in US history.

Reminds me of the Chris Rock joke about some people love to admit ignorance and say they don't know ****.
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If it was so important, why didn't it become a "thing" until 2020 and the Summer of Love tour by BLM and the Libs?

Go ask 10 people of mixed races and you'll get about 7 different answers on what it is.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The second part is a sad statement on whites in the US. I can explain Juneteenth to you in about ten words, if you are still somehow confused about a 150-year-old holiday regarding one of the most important events in US history.

Reminds me of the Chris Rock joke about some people love to admit ignorance and say they don't know ****.
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„Sad statement on whites in the US“
Racist much?
My contention is that, before being made a holiday, almost no blacks could have told you what it was either.
Why does a holiday need linked to a race in the first place? Are we now to have a quota system in which each race is entitled to a holiday? Asian Americans don’t have theirs yet. Neither do Hispanics. Oh, and then we will need Pacific Islanders, and Native Americans.
The term „balkanization“ comes to mind.
E pluribus unum.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Remember about 20 or so years ago when it seemed like there was this big push for the black community to celebrate Kwanzaa as an alternative to the "white man's" holiday, Christmas? You kind of saw it everywhere, in the media, merchandise on store shelves, etc. Then it seemed to just disappear. I always wondered who originally perpetuated that push, and why it never stuck.

I can still hear Bernie Mac saying "Happy Kwanzaa" to that shoplifter kid in Bad Santa! LOL!
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Here are a couple of AI overviews about the holiday in general and why popularity has declined.

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PEPPERJAX said:
Here are a couple of AI overviews about the holiday in general and why popularity has declined.

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Child excitedly rips the paper from his present. "I hope it's a PS5," he exclaims! He is crestfallen. "Oh," he says, "it's a handmade, meaningful item which encourages growth, education, cultural pride,
creativity, and self-determination while avoiding excessive consumerism."

"Happy Kwanzaa, everyone."
 
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McDad said:
Child excitedly rips the paper from his present. "I hope it's a PS5," he exclaims! He is crestfallen. "Oh," he says, "it's a handmade, meaningful item which encourages growth, education, cultural pride,
creativity, and self-determination while avoiding excessive consumerism."

"Happy Kwanzaa, everyone."
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Yeah

Kwanzaa gifts sound top notch.
 
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Boca Vol said:
No one knows what Kwanza is and no one knows what Juneteenth is. Fair trade.
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Only if they cared so much as to add a holiday instead of rob everyone else of a current one. But you’re right, nobody cares about either of those made up events.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The second part is a sad statement on whites in the US. I can explain Juneteenth to you in about ten words, if you are still somehow confused about a 150-year-old holiday regarding one of the most important events in US history.

Reminds me of the Chris Rock joke about some people love to admit ignorance and say they don't know ****.
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Bruh... one of the most important?

I'd love to see your list.
 
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„Sad statement on whites in the US“
Racist much?
My contention is that, before being made a holiday, almost no blacks could have told you what it was either.
Why does a holiday need linked to a race in the first place? Are we now to have a quota system in which each race is entitled to a holiday? Asian Americans don’t have theirs yet. Neither do Hispanics. Oh, and then we will need Pacific Islanders, and Native Americans.
The term „balkanization“ comes to mind.
E pluribus unum.
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Every day the casinos on Tribal lands are open and white people gamble is a holiday for Natives.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The second part is a sad statement on whites in the US. I can explain Juneteenth to you in about ten words, if you are still somehow confused about a 150-year-old holiday regarding one of the most important events in US history.

Reminds me of the Chris Rock joke about some people love to admit ignorance and say they don't know ****.
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Chris Rock is a wise man.

 
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n_huffhines said:
The second part is a sad statement on whites in the US. I can explain Juneteenth to you in about ten words, if you are still somehow confused about a 150-year-old holiday regarding one of the most important events in US history.

Reminds me of the Chris Rock joke about some people love to admit ignorance and say they don't know ****.
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Almost zero people knew of "Juneteenth" before Biden made it a holiday and not because its the most ghetto ebonic sounding word ever uttered by a President. Biden was trying to out black Obama in some desperate attempt to salvage his disastrous Presidency.
 
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