What is the greatest pop song ever written?

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Greatest POP (not rock) song ever written is probably Ed Sheerans "Shape of You". The music video is approaching 7 billion views on Youtube. I personally think that Hall and Oates "Rich Girl" is one of the best written songs of all time, as well as The Jackson 5's "I Want You Back".
 
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Video killed the radio star

Not my favorite but the song was the first one played on MTV and ushered in the end of music.

Best because nothing else can define pop culture more.
 
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NEO said:
Video killed the radio star

Not my favorite but the song was the first one played on MTV and ushered in the end of music.

Best because nothing else can define pop culture more.
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Music?

The point was that it killed radio, and with regard to pop music, expanded the format. It's not saying it killed music...but it didn't even kill the radio. Radio was alive and well still thru the 90s. Radio was killed by iPods and then streaming...and the irony now is that music videos are relatively dead.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Music?

The point was that it killed radio, and with regard to pop music, expanded the format. It's not saying it killed music...but it didn't even kill the radio. Radio was alive and well still thru the 90s. Radio was killed by iPods and then streaming...and the irony now is that music videos are relatively dead.
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You missed the theme.

It turned music into a visual thing which is why artist like Roy Orbison stopped and we suddenly got attractive musicians. The changed continued to where now artist are all good looking and the music sucks.

Before mtv it was about the music.

Post it was about image.

And no the song is not about killing radio. It is about killing the radio Star who is not physically appealing. Totally different.

Have you even listened to the lyrics?
 
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NEO said:
You missed the theme.

It turned music into a visual thing which is why artist like Roy Orbison stopped and we suddenly got attractive musicians. The changed continued to where now artist are all good looking and the music sucks.

Before mtv it was about the music.

Post it was about image.

And no the song is not about killing radio. It is about killing the radio Star who is not physically appealing. Totally different.

Have you even listened to the lyrics?
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Roy Orbison stopped because he died. His last album with the Travelling Wilburys was a hit almost a decade after that song, and he was in at least one music video. We always had attractive musicians and we still have tons of ugly ones.

Did we get more attractive artists? Yeah. Did it kill ugly artists? Not at all.

Also, the look was always a part of the appeal...that's why the Eagles were trying to look cool AF on the Desperado album cover. Musical artists have always expressed themselves in visual ways, whether it's the Beatles wearing the uniform dapper suits or the Beatles dressed up in bright marching band outfits. Roy Orbison had a crafted look, too.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Roy Orbison stopped because he died. His last album with the Travelling Wilburys was a hit almost a decade after that song, and he was in at least one music video. We always had attractive musicians and we still have tons of ugly ones.

Did we get more attractive artists? Yeah. Did it kill ugly artists? Not at all.

Also, the look was always a part of the appeal...that's why the Eagles were trying to look cool AF on the Desperado album cover. Musical artists have always expressed themselves in visual ways, whether it's the Beatles wearing the uniform dapper suits or the Beatles dressed up in bright marching band outfits. Roy Orbison had a crafted look, too.
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You really missed the point man and Roy Orbison would not make it today. That is the point. Roy had hits because they were established song writers prior to MTV and in the 80s the old guard stlill hung around as everything was still fresh. The industry weeded these types out more and more in the 90s and in his Drive ALL Night video 90210 star was used and not really him. It got worse and worse until we now have Tate McRae level artist and music is damn near dead. The second a hit leaves it is gone forever but the songs prior to this that still had talent behind them stay with us still and even young kids love them.

Again you didn’t listen to the lyrics and your picking the 20 on the 80/20 part again just to argue.

And yeah I know he died. A plaque of his children hung on my elementary school wall and he lived down the street from my parents.
 
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NEO said:
You really missed the point man and Roy Orbison would not make it today. That is the point. Roy had hits because they were established song writers prior to MTV and in the 80s the old guard stlill hung around as everything was still fresh. The industry weeded these types out more and more in the 90s and in his Drive ALL Night video 90210 star was used and not really him. It got worse and worse until we now have Tate McRae level artist and music is damn near dead. The second a hit leaves it is gone forever but the songs prior to this that still had talent behind them stay with us still and even young kids love them.

Again you didn’t listen to the lyrics and your picking the 20 on the 80/20 part again just to argue.

And yeah I know he died. A plaque of his children hung on my elementary school wall and he lived down the street from my parents.
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Apparently you just don't have a grasp on the modern music industry. The existence of Tate McRae does not nullify the existence of Colter Wall.

What's the red headed kid's name? He's just a guitar and a mic, and he has a million hits, selling out stadiums, and he's ugly AF (no offense to him, just illustrating the point). He doesn't even have a cool look like Orbison. He just looks like a dork.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Apparently you just don't have a grasp on the modern music industry. The existence of Tate McRae does not nullify the existence of Colter Wall.

What's the red headed kid's name? He's just a guitar and a mic, and he has a million hits, selling out stadiums, and he's ugly AF (no offense to him, just illustrating the point). He doesn't even have a cool look like Orbison. He just looks like a dork.
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You picked a simple post about music and turned into way more than needed. It was just a fun thread and you have made it into a full scale debate and wasted my time over a thread that was suppose to be fun.

You really are an annoying lil prick anymore.
 
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NEO said:
You picked a simple post about music and turned into way more than needed. It was just a fun thread and you have made it into a full scale debate and wasted my time over a thread that was suppose to be fun.

You really are an annoying lil prick anymore.
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You didn't have to respond to me. Just let it go if this isn't what you wanted.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I see 3 out of 6 ugly people

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Not to wonder into the argument too much, but you have a different standard of ugly. Ed Sheeran, yeah he is ugly. no arguments there.

I would guess your other two uglies are Bad Bunny and maybe the Weekend? I don't really know what passes as "hot" guys but I think most would have either of them as average at worst. but really towards the upper levels of average into "attractive".
 
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