Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

#76,753
#76,753
JCVol00 said:
Unpopular opinion:

Heupel is not the QB whisper we make him out to be, evidence:

-Hendon Hooker was already on the roster when Heup got here, Heup still brought in Milton and started milton over him until he got hurt, he essentially lucked into Hooker
-Milton was average
-Tayven Jackson: bust
-Nico: Bust
-Merk: likely transferring, therefore bust
-joey: decent, just very sporadic
GMac: AP makes it sound like he wont be the starter next year, essentially said on a pod that the QB for next year isnt on the roster yet
Brandon: ?
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Dude. You are becoming one of them.

Heupel isnt the QB whisperer?

Folks, our starting QB left us right before practice. We then went and found the equivalent of a 1955 Hudson Hornet. Er, ok a 2000 Subaru WRX. And souped it up. The offense was far from perfect. But, we won 8 games. The problem isnt Heupel folks.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
Checking box scores from nfl games.

So tired of our VFLs being complete non-factors in the league.
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Darnell Wright is one of the best RTs in the league. He's about to get PAID.

Trey Smith is one of the best Gs in the league.

Byron Young is top 10 in sacks in the NFL.

JJ is doing well for San Fran. He'll get a nice payday this off-season.

Pearce is doing well as a rookie. Lott was doing well before tearing his ACL.
 
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#76,756
SoilVol said:
Another day, another rant from Smyrna about playing unproven freshmen and sophomores over battle-tested and experienced older players.
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I mean how do you get battle-tested and experienced older players if not playing the unproven young guys?

The irony is this team was over half full of unproven freshmen and sophomores and people complained about how lost we looked out there at times...

Joey had a great season though and I'm very much a believer that we got a bit lucky in that. I thought he'd have a better year than Nico, but I didn't see 67% for 3444 yards with 24 TDs and 10 INTs based on his previous seasons at App State.
 
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#76,757
turdherder11 said:
Its going to be tough next season, I dont think the fanbase can take it. I think hes a good coach, but hes gotta make some serious moves. The entire defensive position coaches need to go. Idk about Banks, we have improved every season until this one. He also has to make serious moves in the portal. With all the coaching changes going on in the sec, we should be digging in the portal hard.
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Here’s another serious key to add to your list of valid points…

🔑•making the “serious moves” on time while other schools are catching up.

Florida(New coach),LSU(New coach),OLE Miss(New coach),Alabama(new coach) and even Georgia (no offense )is suspect not having a efficient offense right now…what I’m saying is A lot of schools are vulnerable right now and beatable compared to how they were during the Dooley,butch and gomer era we needed a lot more than just coaches back then..JH is one or two serious moves away from competing in championships but that slowly slips away the longer he puts it off.while he’s sleeping other schools are making moves on improving.

hes shown zero urgency in making any changes since he’s been here and thats a huge problem.this is starting to reek up of fulmer era incompetence.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Let's try to be reasonable people. We lost our starting qb from a playoff team in January. We replaced him with a qb who was rejected for our old qb. Realistically we probably had no business winning more than 6 or 7 games. Joey was a great stop gap but he lost us some games. He ain't Joe Burrow and no reasonable person could expect him to more an emergency stop gap.
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I would tend to agree but we actually upgraded at QB. Nico was not good here and he has not been good at UCLA. We’re a top offense in the league now and second to last defensively. It’s obvious why we can’t take the next step.
 
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Carp said:
Darnell Wright is one of the best RTs in the league. He's about to get PAID.

Trey Smith is one of the best Gs in the league.

Byron Young is top 10 in sacks in the NFL.

JJ is doing well for San Fran. He'll get a nice payday this off-season.

Pearce is doing well as a rookie. Lott was doing well before tearing his ACL.
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Kamara been a baller ever year before this year
 
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Carp said:
I would be willing to bet we have more than that to spend.

Regardless, we're going to have to add a portal QB if JA leaves. It's just a fact. Maybe not a 2 million plus portal QB, but there is zero chance we are riding into 2026 with 2 scholarship QBs. And I doubt whatever QB we seek is going to be a Navy Shuler or Gaston Moore sort of QB.

Seeing as QB is the most important position on the field, giving Joey a couple million to run it back with a year in this system under his belt, I can't imagine anyone else being a better fit in 2026.
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We don’t have those funds unless you cut George and some others loose. We are not an endless supply of funds. We spend well but we can’t afford $3 million Joey, $1-2 million Faizon, and $500-1million for George. Even if George left, you would have to spend likely a decent amount. I would rather ride with $3 million total on QB without Joey and an extra $2 million to spend on defense. Otherwise, we will look the same next year as this year.
 
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What bugs me the most is I've seen Heupel mold his offense in these 5 years around his talent and around the adjustments opposing coaches have been making to his system. He's not been perfect but he's not stuck in his ways.

Banks I can't say that for...you can pull up year 1 situations and I bet he's running the same personnel and plays against it in year 5.
 
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SmyrnaATLVolisback said:
Who is wanting that?

Are people on twitter posting it?

That’s crazy. I haven’t seen one person in the forum ask for a coaching change except for the defensive staff. So that must be who you’re referring too.
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Come on man, people may not have called for it directly but there have been several to insinuate that CJH has reached his ceiling and the sooner we realize that and move on the better we will be.

That is one step short of saying let’s do it this year.
 
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SmyrnaATLVolisback said:
We don’t have those funds unless you cut George and some others loose. We are not an endless supply of funds. We spend well but we can’t afford $3 million Joey, $1-2 million Faizon, and $500-1million for George. Even if George left, you would have to spend likely a decent amount. I would rather ride with $3 million total on QB without Joey and an extra $2 million to spend on defense. Otherwise, we will look the same next year as this year.
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We were literally going to spend that much had Nico stayed.
 
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#76,769
Carp said:
Darnell Wright is one of the best RTs in the league. He's about to get PAID.

Trey Smith is one of the best Gs in the league.

Byron Young is top 10 in sacks in the NFL.

JJ is doing well for San Fran. He'll get a nice payday this off-season.

Pearce is doing well as a rookie. Lott was doing well before tearing his ACL.
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I didn’t say no one was doing anything. Hard to get amped for OLineman.

We don’t have any superstars in the league. Or even stars, really.
 
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#76,771
HoleInTheRoof said:
I didn’t say no one was doing anything. Hard to get amped for OLineman.

We don’t have any superstars in the league. Or even stars, really.
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Byron Young is a legitimate star. He isn't a superstar, but there aren't many of those in the league in general.
 
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#76,772
Carp said:
We were literally going to spend that much had Nico stayed.
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No we’re weren’t.

Nico was $2.6
George $500k - $1 million
Merk likely 250 - 350k

That’s the cost this year if Nico stayed.

Next year will be around 5-6 million in QBs if Joey stays along with George and Faizon.

Saving around $1.5-2 million depending on Faizon deal which is substantial and mirrors Nico or more. Come on man.

Do you want the defense to resemble the same? Because we can’t put all our money on offense and QBs. WRs will get raises along with bishop and Morris.
 
#76,773
#76,773
MoCo_Vol said:
What bugs me the most is I've seen Heupel mold his offense in these 5 years around his talent and around the adjustments opposing coaches have been making to his system. He's not been perfect but he's not stuck in his ways.

Banks I can't say that for...you can pull up year 1 situations and I bet he's running the same personnel and plays against it in year 5.
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Not entirely true my friend..say what you want about Nico but the offense was truly predictable last year and I’m not buying the whole Nico playbook malpractice BS..if you put Nico in the offense we had this year i don’t think we lose some of those games..solely on the fact he’s a better runner than Joey.i truly believe last year Josh gave 100% control responsibilities to Haz and fumbled.fast forward to this year Josh was more involved in calling plays,it was a completely different look in comparison.

I don’t think haz put Nico in the best position to score points.if you go back and look at the comments he made i didn’t take it as him saying we sucked from a depth standpoint I think he was implying our OC playing calling sucked and he wasn’t wrong.
 
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