Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

[VolNRaleighNC]

Coyotes are gettin' it tonight

 

[Jackcrevol]

It's called the Dunning Kruger effect. . .

i'm not sure of im insulted or confused

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Hit a +21,000 parlay today

 

[Jackcrevol]

Hit a +21,000 parlay today

pennie's getting round down

 

[KB5252]

I see Shane Beamer was his usual spaz self today......... He would be a hybrid of Tweak and Butters as South Park character.

 

[peaygolf]

I appreciate Bishop but man I wish we had a running back like Lacy.

I would kill for an elite running back.

Big time RB is a need.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Hit a +21,000 parlay today

Ok, I’m thinking Safety, first priority. But I would be fine if you got a top notch linebacker, also. Your money, your choice.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Kriffen

 

[TheMookieMonster]

I still can’t believe a head coach acted like this at halftime of a football game lol. So embarassing. The biggest clown in college football.

 

[engineerVOL]

Same. This season is a success in my book if we can beat Florida and end vandys playoff hopes.

Gotta win both for a succees IMO.

 

[engineerVOL]

Kriffen

RB with 7.2 YPC. Yeah let’s throw it twice.

 

[MarcoVol]

Lol Lane talked them into picking the flag up. Getting the Kirby treatment

 

[orangejuice]

Wow, they picked up the flag??????

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Ok, I’m thinking Safety, first priority. But I would be fine if you got a top notch linebacker, also. Your money, your choice.

It was only a $1 bet. It was actually a +3,500,000 parlay, but I cashed out for $210 before it fell a part on the last couple legs.

 

[orangejuice]

That’s so bad. He tackled him WAY before the ball got there? HOW do you pick up that flag? That’s so bad

 

[Jimmy Football]

It was only a $1 bet. It was actually a +3,500,000 parlay, but I cashed out for $210 before it fell a part on the last couple legs.

Every little bit helps! Danny appreciates your support!

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Someone needs to show Heupel videos of Kirby and how aggressive he is on repeat. Kirby is in Sarks head tonight.

 

[orangejuice]

The SEC has such a massive problem. I get so tired of hearing about this every week but it’s so blatant

 

[KB5252]

If that was holding then it's a safety, he wasn't out of the end zone

 

[Johnny Majors]

Wow, they picked up the flag??????

Blatant corruption.

 

[SmyrnaATLVolisback]

Kirby with a huge call.

Wish we had trick plays and special teams plays. Would be nice

 

[JT3]

UGA with the surprise onside kick.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Sure but some context is needed.

First off, this is a new era of football. All these coaches hired before this century mark does not really apply in this situation. Next Brian Kelly left after a top 5 season at Cincinnati (a la Fickell to Wisconsin). Urban Meyer also was hired off a top 5 season at Utah and he had an unique offense at the time in his own right. Napier and Frost got fired. Tennessee was in the middle of an investigation and had already fired an AD over that coaching search.

In terms of it just being normal, Penn State isn't just some normal job and they fired a coach who took them to the national championship literally last year. The goal is always to hire better than what you let go. The bar is a natty appearance and in this era you have to get a coach that people want to give money too. Hiring a coach who went 7-6 in every season he had coaching before this year while at a mid major doesn't exactly get these type of people excited. Nobody is saying Golesh is not a P4 worthy coach, but there's levels to the landscape of programs.

He would have to prove it over time with sustained success to just jump to Penn State right now. With the assistants, Kirby was the defensive coordinator under the greatest coach of all time for 8 years before getting a job and had played at the school that hired him. With Venables he was the DC at OU for 13 years before being the DC at Clemson for 10 more. Those two were quite literally some of the greatest defensive assistants of all time and returned to where they once were. With Stoops, I'm not comparing Kentucky and Penn State...

Neither am I. Bob Stoops was hired by Oklahoma after being a DC.

So basically, there’s a reason each of those situations was different than Penn State’s. And you can play that game with EVERY situation. But big time programs hire mid-major head coaches and P4 coordinators. Frequently. And no one bats an eye. That’s the point.

Doesn’t matter that Napier and Frost got fired. The topic is whether it’s a “bad look.” Florida and Nebraska were both praised at the time of those hires. No one said hiring Napier was a “bad look” at the time. We have the benefit of hindsight now, but Florida hired a mid-major coach who had been an SEC assistant and folks thought that was at least normal for a big time program like Florida (which, by the way, is a better job than Penn Stare).

But as I said, “the look” shouldn’t drive the hire. The AD’s opinion of how good a coach he is should. And it’s an AD’s job to figure that out…not based on what he finds on Wikipedia, but by evaluating coaching talent.

With all these open big time jobs available, they’re not all going to be filled by sitting, successful P4 head coaches. And Penn State isn’t one of the 2 or 3 best open jobs. LSU, Florida, and arguably Auburn, are better. If FSU fires Norvell, that one’s better too.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I still can’t believe a head coach acted like this at halftime of a football game lol. So embarassing. The biggest clown in college football.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Kirby with a huge call.

Wish we had trick plays and special teams plays. Would be nice

We don't even have specials teams..... we are a special team.