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#66,937
NighthawkVol said:
Bluebloods hire mid-major head coaches all the time. Notre Dame hired Brian Kelly from Cincinnati. Florida hired Meyer and Napier from mid-majors. Nebraska and Tennessee both hired head coaches from UCF. Ohio Stare hired Tressell from D2. Further, plenty of successful coaches have gone from coordinator with no head coaching experience to blueblood school head coach (Fulmer, Richt, Smart, Stoops, Venables).

It’s wrongheaded to think that every big job is going to be filled by a coach who’s leaving success at another P4 program as their head coach. That’s the exception, not the norm. So no, hiring Golesh wouldn’t be a bad look. It would be pretty normal.

If you’re an AD and you think he’s a good coach, hire him. If you don’t, don’t hire him. But worrying about how it “looks” when it’s SOP to hire a successful mid-major would be a mistake.
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Sure but some context is needed.

First off, this is a new era of football. All these coaches hired before this century mark does not really apply in this situation. Next Brian Kelly left after a top 5 season at Cincinnati (a la Fickell to Wisconsin). Urban Meyer also was hired off a top 5 season at Utah and he had an unique offense at the time in his own right. Napier and Frost got fired. Tennessee was in the middle of an investigation and had already fired an AD over that coaching search.

In terms of it just being normal, Penn State isn't just some normal job and they fired a coach who took them to the national championship literally last year. The goal is always to hire better than what you let go. The bar is a natty appearance and in this era you have to get a coach that people want to give money too. Hiring a coach who went 7-6 in every season he had coaching before this year while at a mid major doesn't exactly get these type of people excited. Nobody is saying Golesh is not a P4 worthy coach, but there's levels to the landscape of programs.

He would have to prove it over time with sustained success to just jump to Penn State right now. With the assistants, Kirby was the defensive coordinator under the greatest coach of all time for 8 years before getting a job and had played at the school that hired him. With Venables he was the DC at OU for 13 years before being the DC at Clemson for 10 more. Those two were quite literally some of the greatest defensive assistants of all time and returned to where they once were. With Stoops, I'm not comparing Kentucky and Penn State...
 
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#66,938
BlackCreekVol said:
Please tell me Florida isn't going to play lights out with nothing to lose next week. I need a win in Gainesville for my soul.
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I think they will come to play. Current college football players are playing for a bigger contract next year. They have a bunch of $$$$$$$$ to play for. Also no pressure. They also have a lot of talent. We will have to come to play or we will get beat.
 
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