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Obviously season is early...

but Nate is 7th in PPG in the SEC right now, and only 2 players have taken less FGs per game than him that have more PPG.

Mark Mitchell has taken 11 to Nate's 11.5, but has shot closer to 70% FG
Keyshawn Hall for Auburn has only taken 10.5 a game, but he's a walking FT... dude is average 15.5 FTA per game.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Both guys have 41 points through 2 games, Ament has done it in 10 less minutes and on a better shooting percentage…we gonna do this all year where folks downplay how good he is?
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If people would adjust their expectations to Tobias Harris (which is an awesome freshman) instead of Kevin Durant, people will be much happier.
 
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zjcvols said:
Boswell hitting 1-2 three pointers a game would be so massive.

I'm also officially worried Abram got the "transfer who could shoot the lights out at previous stop but can't here" disease that infects one Tennessee player every year has happened.
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If doing stock up/stock down after 2 games Abrams and Carey are stock down guys. Abrams not hitting open shots is concerning and looks like he has a hitch in his shot too.

Henderson continuing to develop alleviates missing on Abrams if he continues to develop.
 
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zjcvols said:
Boswell hitting 1-2 three pointers a game would be so massive.

I'm also officially worried Abram got the "transfer who could shoot the lights out at previous stop but can't here" disease that infects one Tennessee player every year has happened.
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Someone else on the roster will snatch his minutes up if he doesn't make the most of his opportunities.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Come on, your post sure seemed to imply disappointment of some kind. He can only play the teams in front of him.
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Guys like Aj, koa peat, Petersen, boozer etc are jumping off the screen as potential future AS NBA players.

I haven’t really seen that from Ament. I still think he’s going to contribute a lot.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
To be a top 3 projected pick which he was made to be?
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I understood it to be Top 3-5 coming in depending on how he develops, but that’s splitting hairs honestly. He’d have to light the game on fire to be #1. However, literally every projection I’ve seen him listed on draft boards have stated how obviously a late bloomer he is and how he has the highest ceiling of most all projected top picks. Hopefully we see some of that here at UT. It would make for a fun season.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
Guys like Aj, koa peat, Petersen, boozer etc are jumping off the screen as potential future AS NBA players.

I haven’t really seen that from Ament. I still think he’s going to contribute a lot.
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Ament is averaging more ppg in 3 fewer minutes, and shooting more than 10% better from the field than Boozer.

Ament is averaging more ppg and rpg in slightly fewer minutes than Dybantsa.

Peat averages several more points and a higher FG%, but averages 6 more minutes a game and is pretty exclusively an interior presence.

It just seems as though your implicit bias is programmed to judge Ament more harshly than those other players because subconsciously you don't expect Tennessee to have success with these kinds of players. If Ament played for Duke with his current numbers, and Dybantsa was averaging 19 and 7 for Tennessee, or if Boozer was shooting 40% from the field for Tennessee, I'd venture to guess you'd be asking why they aren't producing or jumping off the screen like Ament.

And frankly, you're making these kinds of judgements based on two games for all these kids which isn't fair to anyone, nor is it really logical to be drawing any conclusions from it.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
Guys like Aj, koa peat, Petersen, boozer etc are jumping off the screen as potential future AS NBA players.

I haven’t really seen that from Ament. I still think he’s going to contribute a lot.
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I'm not sure how you can watch Boozer and worry about Ament's explosiveness, but not Boozer's.

Especially when one is 6'10 and the other is 6'7.5
 
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cncchris33 said:
Ament is averaging more ppg in 3 fewer minutes, and shooting more than 10% better from the field than Boozer.

Ament is averaging more ppg and rpg in slightly fewer minutes than Dybantsa.

Peat averages several more points and a higher FG%, but averages 6 more minutes a game and is pretty exclusively an interior presence.

It just seems as though your implicit bias is programmed to judge Ament more harshly than those other players because subconsciously you don't expect Tennessee to have success with these kinds of players. If Ament played for Duke with his current numbers, and Dybantsa was averaging 19 and 7 for Tennessee, or if Boozer was shooting 40% from the field for Tennessee, I'd venture to guess you'd be asking why they aren't producing or jumping off the screen like Ament.

And frankly, you're making these kinds of judgements based on two games for all these kids which isn't fair to anyone, nor is it really logical to be drawing any conclusions from it.
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I’m judging strictly off eye test, you’re using #’s off 2 games.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
I’m judging strictly off eye test, you’re using #’s off 2 games.
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I’ve watched a lot of Tennessee basketball in my life, and if we’re going off both eye test and numbers I can’t think of any freshman in my lifetime that has popped in two games like Ament. He already looks like he’ll be the best true freshman in Tennessee basketball history (except maybe Bernard King, which I wasn’t alive for so can’t draw an opinion), so I’m not sure what realistically we’re looking for from a guy who’s averaging 20 PPG in just 25ish minutes a game.
 
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zjcvols said:
Boswell hitting 1-2 three pointers a game would be so massive.

I'm also officially worried Abram got the "transfer who could shoot the lights out at previous stop but can't here" disease that infects one Tennessee player every year has happened.
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His release is slow and bad
 
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It's really not fair to compare best Freshmen ever at Tennessee, everyone of them had a different situation team wise. Ament will strive in the amount of minutes CRB gives him on the court..if Ament can average 18 and 8 in 25 minutes per game that's a good year.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I’ve watched a lot of Tennessee basketball in my life, and if we’re going off both eye test and numbers I can’t think of any freshman in my lifetime that has popped in two games like Ament. He already looks like he’ll be the best true freshman in Tennessee basketball history (except maybe Bernard King, which I wasn’t alive for so can’t draw an opinion), so I’m not sure what realistically we’re looking for from a guy who’s averaging 20 PPG in just 25ish minutes a game.
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The bar for being the best modern freshmen in UTBB history isn’t very high. I was expecting a Jabari smith/ Brandon Ingram level player. I haven’t seen it yet, though it’s early.

Physically I see a taller zaccharie risacher, who isn’t really impressive to me. I would argue ament is already a better prospect.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
The bar for being the best modern freshmen in UTBB history isn’t very high. I was expecting a Jabari smith/ Brandon Ingram level player. I haven’t seen it yet, though it’s early.

Physically I see a taller zaccharie risacher, who isn’t really impressive to me. I would argue ament is already a better prospect.
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Smith scored 31 points in his first 2 college games, Ingram scored 36, Ament is at 41 in his first 2 games.
 
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