New York City

[EasternVol]

Which of course doesn’t mean he wasn’t right about this one issue.

He was about 15% right in that we should be very vigilant against espionage.
People should be free to favor whatever economic system they believe in.

 

[EasternVol]

Actually, it is true.

It starts with a false premise and adds lies as it continues. Gibberish is a bad description though. BS is more accurate.

 

[Majors]

The only system I said I don't trust is the local school district you attended.

What you said vs. what you thought you said.

I wouldn’t trust the school system where you learned grammar.

Like any good student, you never stop learning. Those grammatical errors show up in red pens in college. My last higher learning stop was the UT system. Technically it is still local, since we still live here.

 

[Orangeslice13]

The only system I said I don't trust is the local school district you attended.

Mine was questionable at best as well.

 

[Orangeslice13]

If you’re an all American and state champion…..you pass

 

[OrangeTsar]

He was about 15% right in that we should be very vigilant against espionage.
People should be free to favor whatever economic system they believe in.

I agree. If they want socialism or communism, there are dozens of flights out of the country each day that can make their fondest dreams come true.
The rest of us would like to keep our freedoms (economic as well as political) thank you very much.

 

[EasternVol]

I agree. If they want socialism or communism, there are dozens of flights out of the country each day that can make their fondest dreams come true.
The rest of us would like to keep our freedoms (economic as well as political) thank you very much.

How would socialism or communism necessarily mean erosion of our freedoms? Have you noticed the marked erosion in the last 50 years under so called capitalism?

 

[OrangeTsar]

How would socialism or communism necessarily mean erosion of our freedoms? Have you noticed the marked erosion in the last 50 years under so called capitalism?

Capitalism is the freedom to keep the fruits of your labor. Socialism and communism are the coerced confiscation of the fruits of your labor to redistribute to others.
Which one sounds more „free“ to you?
Please tell me that you took at least one economics class in your educational journey.

 

[EasternVol]

Capitalism is the freedom to keep the fruits of your labor. Socialism and communism are the coerced confiscation of the fruits of your labor to redistribute to others.
Which one sounds more „free“ to you?
Please tell me that you took at least one economics class in your educational journey.

Those aren't the definitions, sorry. Have you been allowed to keep the fruits of your labor, or have you had to give a share to the government?

 

[OrangeTsar]

Those aren't the definitions, sorry. Have you been allowed to keep the fruits of your labor, or have you had to give a share to the government?

God Himself only asks for 10% voluntarily. The government takes 40%. And they don’t exactly ASK.

 

[EasternVol]

God Himself only asks for 10% voluntarily. The government takes 40%. And they don’t exactly ASK.

God doesn't ask a set percentage but those who pretend to speak on behalf do.
So we don't get to keep the fruits of our labor under what we call capitalism. That's good to know; I thought it may have been just me.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Idiot NYC suckers got suckered once again for believing a lying communist.

 

[MAD]

Listen to how Mamdani is following the Muslim Brotherhood playbook.



The Muslim Brotherhood is a designated terrorist organization in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Jordan, and Egypt.

For some reason, it remains legal in the West - thanks to useful idiots.

 

[NashVol11]

Listen to how Mamdani is following the Muslim Brotherhood playbook.



The Muslim Brotherhood is a designated terrorist organization in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Jordan, and Egypt.

For some reason, it remains legal in the West - thanks to useful idiots.

I hope you got a "top fan" badge for this lady, based on the replies and her reputation for celebrating genocide pretty much everyone hates her

 

[OrangeTsar]

God doesn't ask a set percentage but those who pretend to speak on behalf do.
So we don't get to keep the fruits of our labor under what we call capitalism. That's good to know; I thought it may have been just me.

 

[LouderVol]

And when neither of the two majors deserve it?

You say sit it out....or vote for a non viable 3rd party?

I agree, if and when the two majors are anywhere near equally undeserving.

But in cases where one is far more undeserving (trump) than the other (anyone), it makes no sense to do anything other than vote for the most viable alternative.

I guess it boils down to you seeing the differences between trump and others as being far less significant than do I.

trump was/is/and it unfortunately appears always will be an unacceptable low in my view.

again, the only thing that makes the 3rd party candidate non-viable, or whoever you voted for in the Primary, is that you won't vote for them.

that's it. just vote for them.

its a 50/50 chance you are going to "waste" your vote on the loser anyway. so why not just vote the way you actually want?

again, you are hypocritical to the extreme. you expect other people to vote for the third party candidate, before you will. you admit that the people you vote for in the general election, aren't your preferred; but you refuse to vote for those that you do.

its not even "breaking" the system, to vote for a non-two party option. its literally a built in function, that people refuse to use; and then complain that others don't use it as well.

 

[LouderVol]

How would socialism or communism necessarily mean erosion of our freedoms? Have you noticed the marked erosion in the last 50 years under so called capitalism?

what capitalism do we live under?

if its taxed, its socialism.
if there are government standards, its socialism.
If there are government subsidies, programs, or benefits tied to it, its socialism.
if it comes from the government, its socialist.
if you can't trade or barter for it, its not capitalism.
if you can't negotiate or haggle, its not capitalism.

 

[whodeycin85]

again, the only thing that makes the 3rd party candidate non-viable, or whoever you voted for in the Primary, is that you won't vote for them.

that's it. just vote for them.

its a 50/50 chance you are going to "waste" your vote on the loser anyway. so why not just vote the way you actually want?

again, you are hypocritical to the extreme. you expect other people to vote for the third party candidate, before you will. you admit that the people you vote for in the general election, aren't your preferred; but you refuse to vote for those that you do.

its not even "breaking" the system, to vote for a non-two party option. its literally a built in function, that people refuse to use; and then complain that others don't use it as well.

Remember he voted in the GOP primary instead of his own.

 

[EasternVol]

what capitalism do we live under?

if its taxed, its socialism.

No, taxes have existed under capitalism since early days.

if there are government standards, its socialism.

No again, no conflict between govt. standards and capitalism.

If there are government subsidies, programs, or benefits tied to it, its socialism.

Maybe as a stretch to meet the 'controls the means of production' definition, but most would say no.

if it comes from the government, its socialist.

Probably

if you can't trade or barter for it, its not capitalism.

Trade and barter work under socialism too.

if you can't negotiate or haggle, its not capitalism.

See above. As do negotiating and haggling.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[n_huffhines]

what capitalism do we live under?

if its taxed, its socialism.
if there are government standards, its socialism.
If there are government subsidies, programs, or benefits tied to it, its socialism.
if it comes from the government, its socialist.
if you can't trade or barter for it, its not capitalism.
if you can't negotiate or haggle, its not capitalism.

???

Taxes and standards, etc. are not socialist or anti capitalist.

Socialism is government ownership and capitalism is private ownership. Taxes, regulations, bartering, etc. all exist in both systems.

 

[n_huffhines]

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It happens in capitalism, too. Where are there no taxes? What system has no taxes?

 

[KB5252]

How would socialism or communism necessarily mean erosion of our freedoms? Have you noticed the marked erosion in the last 50 years under so called capitalism?

Communism certainly would mean automatic further erosion of freedom.

Socialism, depending on the depth and extent would not necessarily mean further erosion.

 

[LouderVol]

No, taxes have existed under capitalism since early days.

No again, no conflict between govt. standards and capitalism.

Maybe as a stretch to meet the 'controls the means of production' definition, but most would say no.

Probably

Trade and barter work under socialism too.

See above. As do negotiating and haggling.

if it interferes with fair markets or free trade its not capitalistic. taxes, government standards, etc. its irrelevant if its always existed, or everyone does it, those are just deflections.

and considering it comes from the government, its socialistic.

I never said those subsidies and others were "controlling the means of production", just that they were socialistic. Regardless, controlling the means of production would be communism.

socialism doesn't require controlling the means of production. socialism still counts if its old, or prevalent.

 

[n_huffhines]

if it interferes with fair markets or free trade its not capitalistic. taxes, government standards, etc. its irrelevant if its always existed, or everyone does it, those are just deflections.

and considering it comes from the government, its socialistic.

I never said those subsidies and others were "controlling the means of production", just that they were socialistic. Regardless, controlling the means of production would be communism.

socialism doesn't require controlling the means of production. socialism still counts if its old, or prevalent.

Capitalism doesn't mean fair markets and free trade. It means private ownership.