Trump Reveals Deal with Drugmakers, Attempt at Lowering Cost of Obesity Drugs

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FLVOL_79 said:
Dude. Unless Trump gives his stamp of approval SpaceCoastVol is going to think its some Obama/Biden/Satan wizardry and be against it forever. He lives life through Trump vicariously.
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If I may ask, is his beliefs bothering you in any way? If so, there's a brilliant thing called the 'Ignore' button.
 
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Peradox1K said:
I would be too if I was 500 lbs heading into a public gym. That's reallll easy to get flashbacks to grade school.
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Yeah, he’s one of my favorite patients; but I probably get on his nerves. He always comes and sees me for something else, and I always talk to him about his depression and weight.

First time we met it was his blood pressure. Last time we met it was positional sleep apnea. And everytime, we mainly focus on weight and depression.

I told him I’ve never known anyone who made it to 400+ lbs who wasn’t depressed and that we have to address both together and if we get any + momentum on one; we should anticipate + momentum on the other.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Yeah, he’s one of my favorite patients; but I probably get on his nerves. He always comes and sees me for something else, and I always talk to him about his depression and weight.

First time we met it was his blood pressure. Last time we met it was positional sleep apnea. And everytime, we mainly focus on weight and depression.

I told him I’ve never known anyone who made it to 400+ lbs who wasn’t depressed and that we have to address both together and if we get any + momentum on one; we should anticipate + momentum on the other.
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Well, those two in fact do coincide. I'd suggest him a private trainer (an at home one) who's experienced with patients similar to him. If you lose weight significantly, you gain confidence and depression will become an afterthought.
 
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Peradox1K said:
Well, those two in fact do coincide. I'd suggest him a private trainer (an at home one) who's experienced with patients similar to him. If you lose weight significantly, you gain confidence and depression will become an afterthought.
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I’ve talked to him about smaller steps right now. Trying to find a job so he’s more active through the day and trying to make small improvements in his step count with a goal of 500+ daily above last year’s average.
 
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Vol8188 said:
It’s highly significant. By lowering your weight I can improve numerous other conditions, all of which make you more physically fit.

I’m not saying “do this instead of going to the gym”. I’m saying “do this and go to the gym”, but I also live in reality and realize many of my patients will not. Also many of them are too physically ashamed of their current body to go to the gym. I have one in particular who is over 500lbs.
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I think some people have issues with the use of the term "fit". I don't think anybody believes a reduction in excessive adipose tissue is a bad thing in reducing any number of morbidities. I do think being "fit" is much more associated with things like increased strength/endurance/flexibility/etc from actual physical activity as opposed to making a pharmaceutical end run on simple fat reduction.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You can take these medications indefinitely if need be. But the truth is when people look better, they naturally make more changes.
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This os what my doctor explained and fits my use of Zepbound. I was 262 lbs and felt stuck. No matter the exercise regimen, no matter the diet, just always around 260. But that is largely my own perception that I'm trying hard to lose weight when, in reality, not in an effective way.

On Zepbound I lost about 15 lbs in first 6 weeks, now down several months later to sub-225.

And I'm going to take a break now and see if the good habits have ingrained themselves to my lifestyle that I dont need it, at $650 a month. If the price to me is indeed $150 starting next year, I might go to maintenance doses as I'm at 12.5 MG now, maybe maintain off of 5 or whatever.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This os what my doctor explained and fits my use of Zepbound. I was 262 lbs and felt stuck. No matter the exercise regimen, no matter the diet, just always around 260. But that is largely my own perception that I'm trying hard to lose weight when, in reality, not in an effective way.

On Zepbound I lost about 15 lbs in first 6 weeks, now down several months later to sub-225.

And I'm going to take a break now and see if the good habits have ingrained themselves to my lifestyle that I dont need it, at $650 a month. If the price to me is indeed $150 starting next year, I might go to maintenance doses as I'm at 12.5 MG now, maybe maintain off of 5 or whatever.
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Ask your doctor if he can prescribe through any compounding pharmacies for you. Some states may be stricter than others, but I can get these medications for patients for around $120 a month depending on their dose.

I use Cody Pharmacy here in TX a lot.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Ask your doctor if he can prescribe through any compounding pharmacies for you. Some states may be stricter than others, but I can get these medications for patients for around $120 a month depending on their dose.

I use Cody Pharmacy here in TX a lot.
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There is also the option of just ordering it in powder form and making it yourself. Vidalabz, etc. Not sure it's cheaper than a compounding pharmacy but might be easier for some that don't want to see a doctor about it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This os what my doctor explained and fits my use of Zepbound. I was 262 lbs and felt stuck. No matter the exercise regimen, no matter the diet, just always around 260. But that is largely my own perception that I'm trying hard to lose weight when, in reality, not in an effective way.

On Zepbound I lost about 15 lbs in first 6 weeks, now down several months later to sub-225.

And I'm going to take a break now and see if the good habits have ingrained themselves to my lifestyle that I dont need it, at $650 a month. If the price to me is indeed $150 starting next year, I might go to maintenance doses as I'm at 12.5 MG now, maybe maintain off of 5 or whatever.
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Vol8188 said:
Those aren’t a result of ozempic but rather of lack of physical activity and excess skin
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Sure. But its whats happening. I have several people I work with who are on the meds. None of them do anything to improve their r health. They are just smaller with pancake butts and loose skin. Oh and they all complain about being dizzy and never being hungry. Seems pretty unhealthy
 
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volfanhill said:
Sure. But its whats happening. I have several people I work with who are on the meds. None of them do anything to improve their r health. They are just smaller with pancake butts and loose skin. Oh and they all complain about being dizzy and never being hungry. Seems pretty unhealthy
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Yeah they sound pretty dumb
 
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volfanhill said:
Sure. But its whats happening. I have several people I work with who are on the meds. None of them do anything to improve their r health. They are just smaller with pancake butts and loose skin. Oh and they all complain about being dizzy and never being hungry. Seems pretty unhealthy
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Those are all issues with the people, not the medication. The medication is incredibly healthy
 
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