'26 TN S Joel Wyatt (Tennessee commit)

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OrangeMoundTNVol said:
If he can hit, then put all 6’4 205lbs of him out there. That trait alone is immediate upgrade.
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I get what you’re saying, but getting lost in coverage would be a huge problem. Farooq will start at one Safety, but I’d be shocked if they don’t find the other starter in the portal. Plus, Walton and Beasley should develop for depth. Walton has a lot of upside and should make a jump next year.

If we’re counting on Wyatt at S as a true freshman, we’re screwed.
 
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OrangeMoundTNVol said:
If he can hit, then put all 6’4 205lbs of him out there. That trait alone is immediate upgrade.
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This is how we end up with so many ridiculous "takes" about football. We have fans that honestly believe that is all there is to it. He big. He fast. He hit hard. He All-American.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
I get what you’re saying, but getting lost in coverage would be a huge problem. Farooq will start at one Safety, but I’d be shocked if they don’t find the other starter in the portal. Plus, Walton and Beasley should develop for depth. Walton has a lot of upside and should make a jump next year.

If we’re counting on Wyatt at S as a true freshman, we’re screwed.
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If you told me we would count on Redmond to start his first year I would’ve been terrified.
 
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OrangeMoundTNVol said:
If you told me we would count on Redmond to start his first year I would’ve been terrified.
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Same. But Redmond has been playing the position for awhile at a program (Buford) in Georgia that develops and prepares kids for college as well as anyone. A lot of those Georgia kids are underrated just because there are so many top tier players in that state. I think the fact he committed early also hurt his ranking. Those things can be political.

Wyatt is brand new to the Safety position and, while Oakland is a solid program, they don’t develop players at the same level as Buford and they certainly don’t play competition on the level of Buford’s competition.
 
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OrangeMoundTNVol said:
If you told me we would count on Redmond to start his first year I would’ve been terrified.
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To be fair, he's gotten picked on and arguably a big part of why we lost the UGA and Bama games (i.e., he wasn't ready through no fault of his own but was forced into action due to injuries ahead of him).

I think Wyatt has the traits to be a very good player here at some spot on the defense, but if we want to win 10+ games next year I don't think we want him or any other freshman (other than maybe Womack who we're not getting) starting at S.
 
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jvols1999 said:
To be fair, he's gotten picked on and arguably a big part of why we lost the UGA and Bama games (i.e., he wasn't ready through no fault of his own but was forced into action due to injuries ahead of him).

I think Wyatt has the traits to be a very good player here at some spot on the defense, but if we want to win 10+ games next year I don't think we want him or any other freshman (other than maybe Womack who we're not getting) starting at S.
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I prefer we hit the portal hard at the safety position. But if by chance we don’t like last cycle, then give me Wyatt and Farooq. And as far as a freshman starting. If we don’t have at least one a year forcing you to make a tough decision, then we aren’t recruiting good enough. You should have at least one freak that forces your hand each cycle, or every other cycle. Which drives my point home about DB recruiting.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Same. But Redmond has been playing the position for awhile at a program (Buford) in Georgia that develops and prepares kids for college as well as anyone. A lot of those Georgia kids are underrated just because there are so many top tier players in that state. I think the fact he committed early also hurt his ranking. Those things can be political.

Wyatt is brand new to the Safety position and, while Oakland is a solid program, they don’t develop players at the same level as Buford and they certainly don’t play competition on the level of Buford’s competition.
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Redmond definitely has a different pedigree than Wyatt. It’s just at Milton, not Buford.
 
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OrangeMoundTNVol said:
If he can hit, then put all 6’4 205lbs of him out there. That trait alone is immediate upgrade.
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If he can tackle, play him ASAP. We don't tackle very well. It seems we spend a lot of time trying to knock the ball loose instead of putting the ball carrier on the ground. This results in giving up first downs and , in the case of later week, letting a running break the attempted ball stealing and scoring. A runner is more likely to fumble if you knock the stuffing out of him than if you try to pull the ball away. JMHO.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
If he can tackle, play him ASAP. We don't tackle very well. It seems we spend a lot of time trying to knock the ball loose instead of putting the ball carrier on the ground. This results in giving up first downs and , in the case of later week, letting a running break the attempted ball stealing and scoring. A runner is more likely to fumble if you knock the stuffing out of him than if you try to pull the ball away. JMHO.
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Do you mean last week when a TE failed to tackle a defensive player?
 
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LittleVol said:
Combay will start before Wyatt.
Wyatt may get a look at STAR
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I hadn't really thought about Wyatt at Star, but the more I think about it, it might make the most sense. The best Star we've had in this defense was Theo Jackson, at 205 lbs. He wasn't as tall as Wyatt, but that's the same weight. The things they ask the Star to do in this defense might fit Wyatt's skill set and size. The question would be coverage skills.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
I hadn't really thought about Wyatt at Star, but the more I think about it, it might make the most sense. The best Star we've had in this defense was Theo Jackson, at 205 lbs. He wasn't as tall as Wyatt, but that's the same weight. The things they ask the Star to do in this defense might fit Wyatt's skill set and size. The question would be coverage skills.
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It would also allow him to be a "DB" but to use his pass rushing skill. He's long and physical.

He's not really a ball hawk even though he's pretty decent at WR.

I think the defense can be great if they get a solid safety and solid DTs from the portal.

Boo and McCoy are gone. Turrentine too. Farooq has played will at times and awful at others. But he makes plays. He's causing fumbles and has a pick six. Get a good safety to pair with him from the portal and let Combay, Walton, Beasley, Thompson, and the jersey kid all compete.

At CB same thing. Hood and McCoy are gone. We get Gibson back but he's always flirting with the portal. Regardless, Redmond will be solid starter and just let Poteat, Anderson, Theodore, Smith and Redmonds HS teammate all work and compete at CB

STAR? Maybe Redmond here. Poteat and then add Wyatt.

That's a lot of young athletes, but with the right environment and Ross and Herring being pass rush monsters we should improve tremendously in pass defense.
 
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LittleVol said:
It would also allow him to be a "DB" but to use his pass rushing skill. He's long and physical.

He's not really a ball hawk even though he's pretty decent at WR.

I think the defense can be great if they get a solid safety and solid DTs from the portal.

Boo and McCoy are gone. Turrentine too. Farooq has played will at times and awful at others. But he makes plays. He's causing fumbles and has a pick six. Get a good safety to pair with him from the portal and let Combay, Walton, Beasley, Thompson, and the jersey kid all compete.

At CB same thing. Hood and McCoy are gone. We get Gibson back but he's always flirting with the portal. Regardless, Redmond will be solid starter and just let Poteat, Anderson, Theodore, Smith and Redmonds HS teammate all work and compete at CB

STAR? Maybe Redmond here. Poteat and then add Wyatt.

That's a lot of young athletes, but with the right environment and Ross and Herring being pass rush monsters we should improve tremendously in pass defense.
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I agree, with one addition…I’d get a Star in the portal. Or a CB in the portal if you think Redmond can play Star.

Man, losing Christian Harrison in the portal really hurt more than we realized at the time. Imagine having him at Star this year and coming back next year.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
I agree, with one addition…I’d get a Star in the portal. Or a CB in the portal if you think Redmond can play Star.

Man, losing Christian Harrison in the portal really hurt more than we realized at the time. Imagine having him at Star this year and coming back next year.
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Great point. That dude was rock solid at STAR.

McMurray has been pretty good there too. That position is so versatile. You can have a 5’9 180 lbs CB or a 6’3” 215 lbs safety type playing in that position.

Redmond came in pretty advanced and he still took his lumps. He’s not a headcase like Boo so he should be dependable or even one of the better defenders next season. But hopefully Poteat is ready to take a step up. Was very excited about him. Or I forgot about Merrit. Both of those guys can be like Staley was this season except on defense hopefully.

We have some talent. It’s just really badly synced up with the lack of portal guys and the freshman + injured veterans
 
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