Entitled fan base… again

#77
#77
VolInNW said:
Dooley, Jones, and even Pruitt had staunch defenders right up to the end. Posters who called anyone talking about that coach's shortcomings a "nega-vol" or "ignorant". Those posters told the rest of us to shut up and let the coach do his job. The question "have you ever coached college football" seems to be a favorite of that very loyal, die-hard crowd. They often drift into ad hominem attacks on posters who disagree with them. Not sure why that is a trait but it is.

IMHO, Heupel is a much better coach than Dooley, Jones, or Pruitt. He is a solid coach, who will win 7-9 games every year, with an occasional 10 win CFP season. A lot of that is based on the fact that he has Tennessee's brand behind him. IMHO, Heupel just isn't the dynamic, proactive personality type that is going to win 10 games most years, with 11-12 win seasons sprinkled in. There aren't that many of those types out there, and if your program snags one (ala Saban, Dabo, etc) you hang onto that coach for dear life. Early on, Fulmer was that type, but for whatever reason, he got happy and complacent after his NC season.

This would be a HORRIBLE time to fire anyone and go coach shopping. Heupel is our date, and we might as well dance with him for another year or two. Who knows, maybe the light clicks, and he realizes that simply REACTING to things will NOT win championships. I don't think that is going to happen, but it might, I guess.

Until then, I expect 7-9 wins each year, lots of 'things to clean up' after every game, and a lot of 'uhs' and swaying back and forth. Then again, after 3-4 years of Pruitt murdering the English language, I am grateful that Heupel at least conjugates verbs properly. Our standard here got pretty low. :)
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We have already won over 7-9 times twice in 4 years


You're absolutely right in that first paragraph. The people that reactively bitch after every loss about the coach not being the guy are the smart ones😉
 
#78
#78
OrangeTsar said:
Losing to Georgia because our field goal kicker misses an easy field goal? Is that the “pretty bad manner” of losing of which you speak?
Yes Heupel could have set him up better; but it is the ONLY such chance we have had in a decade.
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No. Because we were up 21-7 and lost 44-41. That's a 34-20 burst to come back and take the game from us. In our stadium. That's bad. But you did watch the game right? The field goal still could have saved the day, but that went south as well.
No need to rehash the OU game. Both of those home losses were our own fault. I say they are bad losses. You are free to feel however you feel about them.
 
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Ned Ray McWorkher said:
No. Because we were up 21-7 and lost 44-41. That's a 34-20 burst to come back and take the game from us. In our stadium. That's bad. But you did watch the game right? The field goal still could have saved the day, but that went south as well.
No need to rehash the OU game. Both of those home losses were our own fault. I say they are bad losses. You are free to feel however you feel about them.
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I can feel like oranges are blue but it doesn’t make my feeling the statistical reality.

All of ours losses, regardless of what they should have been, were against teams with statistically more talent than ourselves. So you can FEEL however you want, but that doesn’t make your feelings reality.
 

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Someone we'd all met briefly during the summer just dropped in to to re-introduce himself:

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Look at this today in November and tell me why ANY of us have reason to whine about our expectations not being respected by reality. The college football world--not just Tennessee's--has changed since last season in ways no one could have (evidently) predicted.

We create expectations at our own risk. But to then blame others when the real world doesn't cooperate is childish entitled.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Someone we'd all met briefly during the summer just dropped in to to re-introduce himself:

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Look at this today in November and tell me why ANY of us have reason to whine about our expectations not being respected by reality. The college football world--not just Tennessee's--has changed since last season in ways no one could have (evidently) predicted.

We create expectations at our own risk. But to then blame others when the real world doesn't cooperate is childish entitled.
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At least we didn’t hire Brian Kelly. 😂
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
9-3 was my preseason prediction with losses to Alabama, Georgia, and either Oklahoma or Florida. So far the season has transpired exactly as I thought.
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I predicted 9-3 as well, but said I wouldn't be surprised with 10-2 or 8-4 either. That's was the consensus from most people. I think Vegas had us as +/- 7.5. We're kind of on track where most national pundits had us too
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I predicted 9-3 as well, but said I wouldn't be surprised with 10-2 or 8-4 either. That's was the consensus from most people. I think Vegas had us as +/- 7.5. We're kind of on track where most national pundits had us too
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I picked 9-3 and sadly called a heartbreaker with OU in Neyland. I thought we'd get FL this year and even moreso with Billy gone.

I refuse to admit that Vandy could be a problem.
 
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Everyone who bitches about firing Josh Heupel,just go to or order your next version of Candy Crush for your whiny entertainment.As long as your I-phone works and you can take pictures of yourself or yourMacdouble,you are happy.What nega-idiots!
 
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Doberman said:
And another one ….

A what if Huepel is fired thread by his most ardent supporters.

Make it make sense.
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We weren't supposed to win more than 8 games this year. Best two corners out all season and had three defensive ends get hurt during the Oklahoma game.

Go be a fan of another team and cheer for that coach to be fired.
 
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Bud_Fox said:
I’m as disappointed as anyone about the Oklahoma game and us having 3 losses this season.

I don’t think CJH has had his best year as a HC. In game decisions and clock management have been an issue this year. I think that’s fair.

However, if you are ready to move on from CJH right now you are beyond ignorant. Did you forget the last 15 years? They really sucked before CJH. Careful what you wish for.

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We also had incompetent leadership across the board. Heupel is not the only guy who can win here, but I'm not in the crowd screaming to get him fired either. There's a lot room for improvement on this staff, including Heupel himself, but all our losses are on the players. I do wish he would have called and timeout to level out Max Gilbert. He was an absolute train wreck in the moment before the kick. Other than that, he's had us in position to win all these games and the players are the ones who came up short. Excluding Bama maybe.

DC that's a whole different story and something Heupel needs to think long and hard on after this season.....
 
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#96
I don't really understand the complaining about a win. A win is a win no matter if you dominated or lucked into it. No one cares come December, its how many wins do you have that matter.
 
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#97
I don’t want a head coaching change. I don’t even know if staff changes are needed.

Where I’m at after the whole 5-year tenure of wins, losses and roster management is that I no longer have confidence that this head coach will elevate the program any farther than what we’ve already seen. Whether that’s good enough is not my decision to make. I’m just not expecting anything more. And I hope to be proven wrong.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Someone we'd all met briefly during the summer just dropped in to to re-introduce himself:

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Look at this today in November and tell me why ANY of us have reason to whine about our expectations not being respected by reality. The college football world--not just Tennessee's--has changed since last season in ways no one could have (evidently) predicted.

We create expectations at our own risk. But to then blame others when the real world doesn't cooperate is childish entitled.
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IMO being preseason #9 is not good enough.
 
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Bud_Fox said:
I’m as disappointed as anyone about the Oklahoma game and us having 3 losses this season.

I don’t think CJH has had his best year as a HC. In game decisions and clock management have been an issue this year. I think that’s fair.

However, if you are ready to move on from CJH right now you are beyond ignorant. Did you forget the last 15 years? They really sucked before CJH. Careful what you wish for.

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In 2017, Tennessee didn’t win ANY SEC games ?
 
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