Entitled fan base… again

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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
The first sign that a coach’s days are numbered is the pumpers start complaining about “entitled fans” for not being happy with losing. They usually make 10 posts a day about how everyone is dumb to want him fired, apropos of nothing. The cycle has started. It won’t be long now.
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No, you freaking troll, the first sign that a coach's days are numbered, is the true fanbase is infiltrated with nasty trolls who start trying to tear down any good that is being done by the current administration--any real gains made by a coaching staff who has turned chickensh-t into chicken salad--but not maybe filet mignon yet. After chipping, chipping away, you'll finally get us another Butch Jones or Pruitt. I really wish there was a way to ban azz-holes like you from a true supporting fan-base/
 
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Bud_Fox said:
I’m as disappointed as anyone about the Oklahoma game and us having 3 losses this season.

I don’t think CJH has had his best year as a HC. In game decisions and clock management have been an issue this year. I think that’s fair.

However, if you are ready to move on from CJH right now you are beyond ignorant. Did you forget the last 15 years? They really sucked before CJH. Careful what you idiots wish for.

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Not another one!!! Let it go!
 
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HarderKnox59 said:
Need to invest in a new defensive coordinator a secondary coach and a FG kicker.
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We can’t get out of our way this year. No blame on the players (maybe Boo’s effort). Feel like the players have given us all they have this year though. Is our secondary bad? Yeah. But losing your top 2 CB is tough in this league. I don’t want to run down Ty. Tough, tough spot to be put in. All that being said, talent on the roster I wouldn’t blame as the main issue for this year’s disappointment.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
The first sign that a coach’s days are numbered is the pumpers start complaining about “entitled fans” for not being happy with losing. They usually make 10 posts a day about how everyone is dumb to want him fired, apropos of nothing. The cycle has started. It won’t be long now.
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You mean people who care about the program get upset because short sighted children want to fire every coach that isn’t Nick Saban? Because y’all go on all sorts of social media platforms and act so foolish and embarrassing that freakin Kirk Herbstreit have to tell y’all to shut up?

Y’all are a blight of the prestige of the program and clearly have very limited football knowledge. So yes it makes sense why they keep making these posts. We suffered a tough loss and you all are using that to press the buttons because… well as your name implies misery loves company.
 
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goooooovols said:
It’s always surprising to me when people say,”I can’t believe these FANS are being so FANATIC…”
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Fanatic doesn’t also include an excuse for a lack of logical analysis. Fanatics can and should also be the most informed and aware. Clearly by so many posts I’ve read the past few days that natural correlation couldn’t be further from the truth.
 
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Hairy Vols said:
You mean people who care about the program get upset because short sighted children want to fire every coach that isn’t Nick Saban? Because y’all go on all sorts of social media platforms and act so foolish and embarrassing that freakin Kirk Herbstreit have to tell y’all to shut up?

Y’all are a blight of the prestige of the program and clearly have very limited football knowledge. So yes it makes sense why they keep making these posts. We suffered a tough loss and you all are using that to press the buttons because… well as your name implies misery loves company.
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If you cared about the program, you wouldn’t have wanted Dooley to get a third year, Butch to get a fifth year, Pruitt to get another game after Georgia State, etc.

I have not gone anywhere and called for Heupel to lose his job. All I’ve said is it is clear that we are never winning anything of note with him. If you take that as calling for his job, then that’s on you. There are other programs in this conference in recent memory that have fired coaches for doing as well or better than Heupel, so people simply criticizing him when he is plateauing or flat out regressing in several areas 5 years in shouldn’t be taboo.

Heupel has to make changes. If he is unable or unwilling to do so, then at that point you start the firing talk. But if everyone across the state acted like he was God’s Gift like you all apparently would prefer, then he’d never consider making the changes needed.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
If you cared about the program, you wouldn’t have wanted Dooley to get a third year, Butch to get a fifth year, Pruitt to get another game after Georgia State, etc.

I have not gone anywhere and called for Heupel to lose his job. All I’ve said is it is clear that we are never winning anything of note with him. If you take that as calling for his job, then that’s on you. There are other programs in this conference in recent memory that have fired coaches for doing as well or better than Heupel, so people simply criticizing him when he is plateauing or flat out regressing in several areas 5 years in shouldn’t be taboo.

Heupel has to make changes. If he is unable or unwilling to do so, then at that point you start the firing talk. But if everyone across the state acted like he was God’s Gift like you all apparently would prefer, then he’d never consider making the changes needed.
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“I never called for his job but it is clear keeping him is a waste of time that will never win us a championship. Here are a list of coaches with records that couldn’t touch CJH’s but I’m going to use them for the sensationalism of this conversation.”

If all the fans were like you we would have fired Majors after his third year and Fulmer would have never won us a championship.

We are ranked, we are relevant, we are recruiting studs, we are beating our major rivals every other year (except GA but they are so much more talented I’ll give that a pass). If he continues to win, continues to put players in the NFL he WILL win a championship here. All the national media coverage agrees and nobody thinks Heupel is doing anything poor. Only the poorly educated batter Vols syndrome filled individuals here do. Nobody else.

Go to ANY other college football forum and ask them about the job Heupel has done. (I’m on other forums and have had this discussion many time). He literally couldn’t be more outstanding and so many other fans would love to have a coach like the Heupster.

Those are facts.
 
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Action_1505 said:
Heuple didn’t miss the kick against Georgia he didn’t commit intentional grounding or throw the interception returned 99yards for TD against Alabama he didn’t throw 2 INTs and let a blitzing LB unabated to QB and fumble against Oklahoma. But I do think his play calling and clock management has had a lot to be desired. Hopefully CJH realizes his issues and that of other coaches and works to change those in off season. He always talks about growth of players well he and his staff need some of that too maybe he sees the need for some staff changes. If this doesn’t happen next season then Danny Dimes needs to have a serious conversation up to possibly making a change himself. Heuple is still young and in the early stages of his coaching career. Let’s hope he addresses what needs to be and gets Vols into the playoffs and elite conversations every year.
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It was Heupel decision to all of a sudden slow it down to kick the ball instead of going for the TD. They couldn't stop us at that point, we stopped ourselves, so in essence, he did miss the FG.
 
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Baseball25 said:
You might as well admit it. Lose to Florida or Vandy or both.......see what happens.
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I remember when Pruitt lost to Georgia State and BYU. VN melted down and everyone wanted him gone. As the season progressed and I posted that Pruitt wasn’t going to last, I was vilified and called a Nega. Lol
 
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Bud_Fox said:
I’m as disappointed as anyone about the Oklahoma game and us having 3 losses this season.

I don’t think CJH has had his best year as a HC. In game decisions and clock management have been an issue this year. I think that’s fair.

However, if you are ready to move on from CJH right now you are beyond ignorant. Did you forget the last 15 years? They really sucked before CJH. Careful what you wish for.

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Thank you.
 
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LittleVol said:
You did say that.

But do you honestly think that Oklahoma team was better than Tennessee?

Damn the predictions. What did you see?

I saw Heupel do is annual “1 loss for no reason “ routine.

2025- Oklahoma
2024- Arkansas
2023- Florida
2022- South Carolina
2021- Purdue

That’s a trash tradition!! But every single year there’s one game he has no reason to be losing.
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In the 2021 Purdue game, we didn't lose that game because of Heupel, but because of a huge, bogus B.S. call by the ref. That's why we lost that game.
 
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If you go by the posters on this site, it's not the coaching staff or the players
that lose the game for UT. It's always the conspiracy of the SEC and colluding with the refs.
The last 3 yrs the refs have cost us every loss.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
If you cared about the program, you wouldn’t have wanted Dooley to get a third year, Butch to get a fifth year, Pruitt to get another game after Georgia State, etc.

I have not gone anywhere and called for Heupel to lose his job. All I’ve said is it is clear that we are never winning anything of note with him. If you take that as calling for his job, then that’s on you. There are other programs in this conference in recent memory that have fired coaches for doing as well or better than Heupel, so people simply criticizing him when he is plateauing or flat out regressing in several areas 5 years in shouldn’t be taboo.

Heupel has to make changes. If he is unable or unwilling to do so, then at that point you start the firing talk. But if everyone across the state acted like he was God’s Gift like you all apparently would prefer, then he’d never consider making the changes needed.
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If we are being honest with ourselves, the only time a head coach at Tennessee has made a significant staff change to save his job and it had an immediate, positive impact on our team's performance was when Fulmer fired Randy Sanders and brought Cutcliffe back. Other than that, I cannot recall another time where a head coach made a staff change, especially at the coordinator position, and it saved the coach's bacon. In fact, in most cases things got worse after the staff change.
 
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LittleVol said:
You did say that.

But do you honestly think that Oklahoma team was better than Tennessee?

Damn the predictions. What did you see?

I saw Heupel do is annual “1 loss for no reason “ routine.

2025- Oklahoma
2024- Arkansas
2023- Florida
2022- South Carolina
2021- Purdue

That’s a trash tradition!! But every single year there’s one game he has no reason to be losing.
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Yep. I’ve said that for years and I’ve been a fan for 60+ years. Except for 1998 we could probably find one loss every year that is inexplicable. Fulmer was notorious
 
#45
#45
Action_1505 said:
Heuple didn’t miss the kick against Georgia he didn’t commit intentional grounding or throw the interception returned 99yards for TD against Alabama he didn’t throw 2 INTs and let a blitzing LB unabated to QB and fumble against Oklahoma. But I do think his play calling and clock management has had a lot to be desired. Hopefully CJH realizes his issues and that of other coaches and works to change those in off season. He always talks about growth of players well he and his staff need some of that too maybe he sees the need for some staff changes. If this doesn’t happen next season then Danny Dimes needs to have a serious conversation up to possibly making a change himself. Heuple is still young and in the early stages of his coaching career. Let’s hope he addresses what needs to be and gets Vols into the playoffs and elite conversations every year.
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He didn’t score five touchdowns against Bama in 2022, either. What does this guy even do? He’s ripping us off!
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
If we are being honest with ourselves, the only time a head coach at Tennessee has made a significant staff change to save his job and it had an immediate, positive impact on our team's performance was when Fulmer fired Randy Sanders and brought Cutcliffe back. Other than that, I cannot recall another time where a head coach made a staff change, especially at the coordinator position, and it saved the coach's bacon. In fact, in most cases things got worse after the staff change.
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That was after going 5-6 in a year we were predicted to finish top 5 in the country. "We have a chance to be special" were Fulmer's words before that 2005 debacle
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
If we are being honest with ourselves, the only time a head coach at Tennessee has made a significant staff change to save his job and it had an immediate, positive impact on our team's performance was when Fulmer fired Randy Sanders and brought Cutcliffe back. Other than that, I cannot recall another time where a head coach made a staff change, especially at the coordinator position, and it saved the coach's bacon. In fact, in most cases things got worse after the staff change.
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Coaches know which way the wind is blowing. There’s a reason Butch had to fill out his staff with guys no one wanted before the 2017 season. No one wants to climb aboard a sinking ship. Heupel really needs to finish strong here or he’s going to have a hard time upgrading.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
If we are being honest with ourselves, the only time a head coach at Tennessee has made a significant staff change to save his job and it had an immediate, positive impact on our team's performance was when Fulmer fired Randy Sanders and brought Cutcliffe back. Other than that, I cannot recall another time where a head coach made a staff change, especially at the coordinator position, and it saved the coach's bacon. In fact, in most cases things got worse after the staff change.
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Majors did it many times.
 
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