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knoxvol52 said:
Never will be bigger than Chaminade defeating Virginia with Ralph Sampson playing center.. believe Virginia was ranked #1 at the time...
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Buster Douglas knocking out Tyson might come close. My buddies and I debated whether we were even going to watch it. Glad we did. Ah, back when boxing was good, screw Don King.
 
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Whoever can come in a throw the deep ball accurately I believe will win the job between Gmac and FB. It is the ultimate key to the offense. And unfortunately the coaches have shown that it is actually then end all be all in the pass game. The middle of the field was open all nigh long Saturday and we refused to take it. This is another adjustment I would like to see in the offense this offseason. When teams show you 2 high safeties you have to live underneath and let your playmakers work in space.
 
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Garren04 said:
Whoever can come in a throw the deep ball accurately I believe will win the job between Gmac and FB. It is the ultimate key to the offense. And unfortunately the coaches have shown that it is actually then end all be all in the pass game. The middle of the field was open all nigh long Saturday and we refused to take it. This is another adjustment I would like to see in the offense this offseason. When teams show you 2 high safeties you have to live underneath and let your playmakers work in space.
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GMac will likely be our most accurate QB. He can scan the field so easily too at his size. I’ll keep repeating it, next year is our year and chance. We have to be serious about the portal and signing this class. If we are, we can go on a run.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Yeah NBA is the most confusing pro sport of the major ones too. An elite baseball player is likely going to do it in college in a big way. Pretty rare that a NFL player that's good didn't also play at a high level in college...but with the NBA you got some guys that didn't do a damn thing in college and have become good to great NBA players.

A good example, Darius Garland he had 4 games at Vandy and one big one against Liberty...got hurt and sat the rest of the year then went into the draft. Now in year 6 he's a career 19 ppg and 7 apg PG that's averaging 33+ mpg...
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Yeah, Moses Malone, Kobe Bryant, Shawn Kemp, and Kevin Garnett never did anything in college and went on to decent NBA careers.
I left LeBron out on purpose cause I wanted to hear him whine about it.
 
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Garren04 said:
Whoever can come in a throw the deep ball accurately I believe will win the job between Gmac and FB. It is the ultimate key to the offense. And unfortunately the coaches have shown that it is actually then end all be all in the pass game. The middle of the field was open all nigh long Saturday and we refused to take it. This is another adjustment I would like to see in the offense this offseason. When teams show you 2 high safeties you have to live underneath and let your playmakers work in space.
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I Disagree on long ball, it is important but just as important is the ability to be able to presnap read the D which Hooker was excellent at and Milton/Nico both struggled with.

You have to be able to do both equally well in CJH offense.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Yeah, Moses Malone, Kobe Bryant, Shawn Kemp, and Kevin Garnett never did anything in college and went on to decent NBA careers.
I left LeBron out on purpose cause I wanted to hear him whine about it.
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Good assessment but the only thing is none of those guys went to College... Slick but not to slick...


Hence the statement " never did anything in college"..
 
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rikberry31 said:
Yeah, Moses Malone, Kobe Bryant, Shawn Kemp, and Kevin Garnett never did anything in college and went on to decent NBA careers.
I left LeBron out on purpose cause I wanted to hear him whine about it.
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NBA has the ability to really dial in and coach their players too. So they seem more willing to draft based on measurables rather than production and mold their guys.

Still the way college is played isn't the same as NBA, so a great college guy can flop in the NBA and a great NBA guy may have zero impact in the college game as well.
 
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KnoxVillain said:
He didn’t dominate the court like a lottery caliber player should have against Mercer…that was my point. He just looked like a guy tonight. I had higher expectations given the praise I had heard.
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A very good inexperienced guy that could develop into a lottery pick. But I agree, he's got a lot of growing up/ learning to do. That's part of why he signed with Barnes.
 
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Will be interesting to see how staff handles next game with GMac...if he's your future ya gotta play him BUT this late in the season an ACL tear also derails those plans for next year.
 
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Go get that QB from North Texas and pay him big for one year... then let Faizon work in... Gotta Keep Keys and Legend (took big OHST visit this weekend) and the defense commits.

big offseason incoming for Heup and Danny after we get two more losses... If they don't make coaching changes and become a terror in the portal, we'll pretty much know that the AD decision has been made and this is what it's going to be moving forward, hoping for 8-9 wins and maybe sneak into the playoff every four years if we have an easier schedule...

Men's Bball team will be good but not great... Potential there if they gel to get better as the season progresses, but will need to make huge improvements before SEC play in terms of sustained "Barnes" defense, outside shooting, and utilizing the size we have to be a force with rebounding to actually move the needle.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
NBA has the ability to really dial in and coach their players too. So they seem more willing to draft based on measurables rather than production and mold their guys.

Still the way college is played isn't the same as NBA, so a great college guy can flop in the NBA and a great NBA guy may have zero impact in the college game as well.
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Basketball really the sport that rewards pure athleticism the most. I mean Michael Jordan was on of the greatest athletes of all time but he sucked at baseball. Baseball is the sport that rewards experience and thinking the most and pure athleticism the least.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Will be interesting to see how staff handles next game with GMac...if he's your future ya gotta play him BUT this late in the season an ACL tear also derails those plans for next year.
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ACL can happen walking. McCoy tore his training. Friend tore his rebounding a basketball. You play GMac and make sure he is the guy next year
 
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Garren04 said:
Whoever can come in a throw the deep ball accurately I believe will win the job between Gmac and FB. It is the ultimate key to the offense. And unfortunately the coaches have shown that it is actually then end all be all in the pass game. The middle of the field was open all nigh long Saturday and we refused to take it. This is another adjustment I would like to see in the offense this offseason. When teams show you 2 high safeties you have to live underneath and let your playmakers work in space.
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The seam routes/middle of the field was an underrated key to hooker and that 21/22 offense. I remember us hitting pop passes or Warren/Fant over the LBs so many times and that helped open up things for Hyatt on the outside. I think we’ve done that a little more this year, but not nearly to the level of those early Heupel teams. Would love to see that become a bigger wrinkle next season, assuming we have capable the QBs.
 
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JCVol00 said:
I find it kind of ironic that AP and other beat writers have more or less stated that the staff wishes they got Nico more reps in 2023 so he would have more experience for 2024, yet here we are with Merk essentially being one foot out the door and we have him as qb2 and have only played GMac in one game…
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His redshirt is preserved now so he may see action in the next 3 games + the bowl game
 
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KB5252 said:
A very good inexperienced guy that could develop into a lottery pick. But I agree, he's got a lot of growing up/ learning to do. That's part of why he signed with Barnes.
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Yea, nothing wrong with that. I probably had too high of hopes for him out of the gate. I’d rather have him than not. We’ve also got a lot of guys for Barnes to figure out a rotation so having that sorted will help him too.
 
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MarcoVol said:
I’ve not heard that. I’ve heard AP and others say that *they* would’ve gotten Nico more reps. Not that the staff said it. Maybe I’ve missed it.

Thing about AP and other writers…they have opinions. And they’re just that. Opinions.
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This board has a ton of people stating their opinion with every post. The only thing about that is that "opinions are like a$$ holes, everyone has one and most of them stink"
 
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