DW press conference

I’ve been fact checking Danny White. He was directionally accurate on “$14M budget for baseball”. It was $13.4M and apparently leads college baseball. NIL budgets aren’t public, and I’d love to see those numbers. I wonder if they will be eventually published post House Settlement since >$600 deals have to go through clearing house. Also his revenue share is consistent with House guidance. This is courtesy of Extra Points.

NOTE: “These budget numbers do not include athlete NIL payments. The budgets reported to the NCAA are for team operational expenses. These budgets cover things like coaching salaries, team travel, athlete meals, athlete equipment, game guarantees, recruiting, advanced stats software, severance payments, etc.”IMG_3730.png
 
I’ve been fact checking Danny White. He was directionally accurate on “$14M budget for baseball”. It was $13.4M and apparently leads college baseball. NIL budgets aren’t public, and I’d love to see those numbers. I wonder if they will be eventually published post House Settlement since >$600 deals have to go through clearing house. Also his revenue share is consistent with House guidance. This is courtesy of Extra Points.

NOTE: “These budget numbers do not include athlete NIL payments. The budgets reported to the NCAA are for team operational expenses. These budgets cover things like coaching salaries, team travel, athlete meals, athlete equipment, game guarantees, recruiting, advanced stats software, severance payments, etc.”View attachment 783951
This is awesome…thanks for the great info!
 
I’ve been fact checking Danny White. He was directionally accurate on “$14M budget for baseball”. It was $13.4M and apparently leads college baseball. NIL budgets aren’t public, and I’d love to see those numbers. I wonder if they will be eventually published post House Settlement since >$600 deals have to go through clearing house. Also his revenue share is consistent with House guidance. This is courtesy of Extra Points.

NOTE: “These budget numbers do not include athlete NIL payments. The budgets reported to the NCAA are for team operational expenses. These budgets cover things like coaching salaries, team travel, athlete meals, athlete equipment, game guarantees, recruiting, advanced stats software, severance payments, etc.”View attachment 783951
IMHO Danny White is excellent at fundraising and managing P&Ls, but was shortened on the emotional intelligence gene. He shines as an administrator compared to the jokers TN has had as ADs. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s an egotistical narcissist who struggles with his people skills. He should have managed CTV better, but I don’t know if that would have changed CTV’s decision. I think CTV is running towards something and not away from something. Maybe that just allows me to sleep better at night.
 
Danny comes out of this ok if he hires Elander whether he wins or not cause that is who the majority of baseball fans want. If he hires someone else they better win big cause it will only double or triple the complaints if he gets someone in here that he hired and they don't win.
No. He doesn't come out OK. He has alienated a portion of the fan base. Saban can't be replaced. Tony can't be replaced. DW didn't try to keep him and it hits home that too much is spent on football with the middle of the pack finish every year
 
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IMHO Danny White is excellent at fundraising and managing P&Ls, but was shortened on the emotional intelligence gene. He shines as an administrator compared to the jokers TN has had as ADs. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s an egotistical narcissist who struggles with his people skills. He should have managed CTV better, but I don’t know if that would have changed CTV’s decision. I think CTV is running towards something and not away from something. Maybe that just allows me to sleep better at night.

It's the Giants. Not the White Sox or Marlins.
 
My partner and I own 7 car dealerships. The first hour of both of our day is walking though one of our service departments talking to technicians... then on to the showroom to chat with salespeople.

As a former parts dept guy...I know that goes a LONG, LONG way. The techs were almost always the smartest guys in the dealership.

The older and crustier the better.
 
💯. As I’m sure you can confirm but most consumers don’t realize….Dealership profit:
1) Service
2) Used autos
3) New autos

And it cascades from that service. Lets say a guy buys a brand he hasn't had before.

First service appointment he gets a great tech that fixes any minor issue and doesn't throw darts or upsell nonsense. Guy leaves really impressed, feels even better about his purchase. Car feels more reliable because he has a reliable option when something breaks. Comes time to upgrade, buy the wife a new car, etc...where do you think he's likely to go? Its no wonder part of that business is strangling itself tripping over dollars to pick up dimes...

(I'm way in the weeds LOL)
 
Well, that would depend ENTIRELY on what TV said on that 1 call. It is probable that DW had elevated future discussions upstream with difference makers outside his pay grade. With an MLB club all in, and the length of the fight so indicates, no rational response may have been available. Making history can be really appealing. Will wish him well.
No, he must do interviews required by State Laws. Can't say anything about new hires and candidates until the job is posted. What's more he must conduct a Minimum of 3 interviews. People seem to forget the State laws are part of the hiring process. The only thing he can state is who the interim coach is at the moment and will let you know the candidates if we choose.
 
I mean, sure. But….

1. You have a national champion coach.

2. He considers leaving.

3. You talk to him once in 5 days.


Justify it. We’ll wait…..
Let me ask you this. How do you know Tony didn't want out of the college game? College sports are not what any of these guys signed up for now. Dealing with the portal, tampering, and everyone having their hand out every year. If I had to guess, Tony was fed up with the crap he had to manage on a daily basis, so he took the opportunity to get out, and it just happened to be at the MLB level.

None of us know the relationship he had with DW but it's obvious that DW let Tony lead the way on the renovations to the baseball stadium. It's not DW's fault that the delays were out of everyone's control. You don't just snap your finger and make the issues they ran into with the renovations go away.

Suck it up and let the people in charge do their job. UT baseball will not go back to the way it used to be.
 
Right the ceo usually doesn’t have a close working relationship with the janitor lol

Do people in this thread actually work? Are you best friends with the people you work with? This is a business. Its a job. Performance is very easy to assess based on on the field results. You don’t have to be best friends with everyone at work.
Analogy is off

This is like the CEO dealing with one of their business unit heads (who reports directly to them) primarily through an intermediary. And then having basically zero communication at all (don't want to get chummy!) with one of the just handful of people who report directly to that business unit head. Elander isn't the janitor. He's just 2 levels removed from DW (he reports directly to a guy who reports directly to DW).

Just my opinion, but that kind of structure would feel aloof and distant in any organization.
 
And it cascades from that service. Lets say a guy buys a brand he hasn't had before.

First service appointment he gets a great tech that fixes any minor issue and doesn't throw darts or upsell nonsense. Guy leaves really impressed, feels even better about his purchase. Car feels more reliable because he has a reliable option when something breaks. Comes time to upgrade, buy the wife a new car, etc...where do you think he's likely to go? Its no wonder part of that business is strangling itself tripping over dollars to pick up dimes...

(I'm way in the weeds LOL)
Absolutely. Quick story proving your point…, bought a luxury auto last Summer. Literally drove it home from dealership. Heard something off and took it back next day…it was a bad water pump. Drove loaner for a couple of days. Picked it up and drove it to only hear another noise. Apparently they didn’t hook up some hoses correctly. it’s been a comedy of errors with the Service Dept ever since. I will never ever buy that make of vehicle or do any business with that dealer ever again.
 
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The only way he hires Elander is if he is pressured. He doesn't want to, if he did he would have done it yesterday.
His job is to hire the best possible coach for the University. I think it’s Josh but not my call. It’s his and why he was hired. He’s done a very good job in the past even before he got here. He will be judged by the results and he knows that. I would lose faith in him if he just promoted Josh without a search or was pressured into anything
 
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While I don't normally get involved in these types of back and forth discussions, for some reason I just can't help myself right now. All I'll say is "WOW! Just WOW!" I get the impression from many of the comments, responses, and rebuttals flying around in this thread that many of you have no understanding whatsoever of the concept of hierarchical management. DW sounds like a true believer in the concept and employs it as his way of running a very large corporation, which is exactly what the UT Athletic Department is. And just because he believes in the concept of following a chain of command in dealing with his subordinates on official matters, I don't think that precludes him from actually talking to any and all of the people under him. Does he? I don't know because I don't work for him or interact with him in that business environment. And unless one of you is a UTAD staff member lurking around among us, none of you are directly in that environment either, so you don't know as well. Some of you say it's a house of cards that's getting ready to fall down, but from the perspective that it seems to be one of the more successful ADs in the country right now with plenty of money for this and that, it seems to me he knows what he's doing. Sure, we as fans are getting screwed on higher prices for tickets and parking passes and whatnot, but I hate to tell all of you, we're not the only ones. I live in N. Alabama and have plenty of friends who are Auburn fans (and a few bamer fans, and other schools) and they gripe and complain just as much or more than me about rising prices in anything related to their respective schools. Unfortunately, it's the nature of the beast right now.

As for the press conference, I've watched it twice and heard a few snippets replayed on radio, and I still don't see the negativity many of you seem to find in it. I also don't pick up on any egotistical aspects to his responses or the things he said. Some want to say his statement relative to Coach Caldwell and the Lady Vols about the funding issues will be divisive, but I would counter that the fact that was even being addressed (because of the unsubstantiated, and inaccurate rumor) shows there is already division among the fanbase. I wonder if some of you actually listened to the entire press conference, rather than gleaning specific snippets here and there that supported the argument you already had in mind. You say he contradicted himself regarding the funding. That's entirely untrue; he explained it well enough that most people should have been able to understand it. Regarding the $20.5 mil funds for revenue sharing, he said they, like most schools, "pre-loaded" (i.e., they went ahead and allocated those funds) $2.5 mil among the various programs (with baseball receiving a fairly large share) prior to the revenue sharing agreement going into effect on July 1st. That then left $18 mil for dispersal under the percentages recommended by the US HoR agreement - i.e., 75% Football, 15% MBB, 5% WBB, and 5% all other sports. The $750K for the baseball program is a little more than 4% of the $18mil, meaning baseball got the bulk of the "other 5%."

The basic truth here is many of you are hurt that Tony is leaving us and you want to blame it on anything other than the fact it was a unique opportunity he simply could not pass up. You want to say DW didn't do anything, or didn't do enough, to keep Tony here, when the reality is greater there was really nothing DW could do to make that happen. Some of you are the ones contradicting yourselves when you say "Look at the IU AD and see what he did to keep his coach there when other schools tried to poach him." Let me think... hmmm... Was it not just 2 years ago we had other schools looking to poach Tony after the CWS win, and what did DW do? Oh, that's right - he renegotiated Tony's contract and made him (at that time) the highest paid coach in college baseball. Folks, this is an entirely different, and unprecedented, situation. You can keep banging your head against the brick wall, but that wall's not going to budge despite your best efforts. If, as many of you say, Tony had such a horrible working relationship with DW, would he not have immediately jumped at the SF MLB offer, rather than evaluating and thinking about it for almost two weeks before deciding to take the leap??? Seems to me he was really torn between staying at a place where he felt safe and supported as compared to jumping into a dream scenario fraught with risk and no guarantee of future success and stability.
 
No. He doesn't come out OK. He has alienated a portion of the fan base. Saban can't be replaced. Tony can't be replaced. DW didn't try to keep him and it hits home that too much is spent on football with the middle of the pack finish every year
Correct, DW didn't do all he could to keep Tony V
 
All he cares about is the wine and cheese crowd, he's pricing the average fan out. He also moves the student section way down the right field line in baseball. He's not as good as I and many others thought
That wine and cheese crowd pays the bills you don't know about or haven't researched. His job is to run fundraise and if you lose funding, then you lose period. A major reason for all them cheap hires we experienced in the past.

He hasn't even listed any candidates and we all can speculate what was said how many times they spoke or how much was offered to counter SF. Problem is we don't know and DW/TV like most smart people will never know the contents of the conversations. Some need a scape goat some don't.

The bottom Line is that he is gone of which TV made a choice. Why? We may never know. Writers don't know and there is no way to verify it. A reporter stated TV made it clear in the interview TV confidently stated that he could beat LA. Is this True or False? If True sounds like he was lobbying for the job, if false sounds like whoever released the information was appealing to the fanbase and Management for the hire. I don't know what is true or false, just what I read.

We are at a point, that speculation, rumors, he said, she said really shouldn't matter, because none of it can be verified. Everybody wants to pin a scapegoat on this and DW is the chosen one which may not be the case.

We may never know and no need to get your panties in a wad about it. We lost a great coach who resurrected a bottom feeder program in a relative short period of time. Tennessee became a prominent team to fear and some of you seem to think that DW wanted him gone. Wrong TV's success was a problem that DW did not have to worry about and that made DW a hot commodity just as much as TVs.

Ultimate decision was TV's.
 
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I don't disagree with any of that. The OP just said he "didn't lead with a thank you" which was just flatly untrue.

DW 100% knows what the narrative is out there and directed many of his comments to address that. Personally I was stunned he volunteered the fact that he didn't really work closely with TV, but one of the sports admins did, and that he basically has no relationship with and never talks to assistant coaches.
To be fair, I might have missed his opening remarks to where the feed cut in??? What I heard first was purely financial glazing. I did not communicate a spirit of appreciation for Tony (at least what I heard) and no denying that it took him almost to the end to mention anything about the players. A real leader comes out of the gate and thanks Tony in a genuine way, addresses the players next and then the fans. All of the other is just defending his ego or spinning. No matter what he actually “said” first, his overall tone was tone deaf, weak, disconnected and what might be technically true that he thanked Tony his emphasis came to light out of the gate…1) finances 2) women’s basketball (which I care about and don’t think it should be an either or…maybe he was right to defend coach caldwell and could have done that in later remarks) 3) ego 4 incompetence regarding baseball. He showed his hand fellas and we are led by a weak leader who doesn’t understand our culture as a baseball team. He is good with numbers but is so far removed from baseball and the common fan I do not blame TV for leaving.

Also, for those talking about him headed to the MLB dream and to give it a rest…go read what Chris Burke said. He isn’t wrong. Tony didn’t want to leave. I believe at the end of the day DW wants a safe controllable guy and that isn’t TV. Strong men don’t follow weak people in authority. That is why TV left from what I observe.

If DW doesn’t listen to the players (current and former) and hire Elander (even if he fails) then you will know he wanted bad boy baseball gone. But that is what makes UT baseball special and what has many team pro and college trying to emulate.
 
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