DW press conference

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joevols89 said:
You saw nothing wrong with it because you take him at his word.
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And apparently a number of you don’t believe anything coming out of the mouths of those who are actually involved in the situation. But you will quickly take the word of someone’s 2nd-cousin’s wife’s brother-in-law. Good grief.
 
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Rocky Top T said:
If you watched what he said and you defend DW, I don't know what to say. He talked to Tony V 1 time in the last 5 days! Disgraceful
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Exactly.

Tired of those on this board carrying water for the AD. Sends his lieutenants to talk his coaches - assistant and head coaches. What he and many in this board don’t understand is that it is not about him but rather his coaches. He did not hire Barnes nor Tony V nor Karen Weekly. I guess he is too busy buying smedium shirts and high water pants. But whatever.
 
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Volrocketman said:
And apparently a number of you don’t believe anything coming out of the mouths of those who are actually involved in the situation. But you will quickly take the word of someone’s 2nd-cousin’s wife’s brother-in-law. Good grief.
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Nah, I’ll take Chris Burke at his word. Someone who is a true Vol and loves Tennessee and TV. Not some accountant in a suit who doesn’t give a damn about Tennessee and will be on to his next job in the next 5 years.

Danny only cares about Danny and how he can make more money.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
If you are questioning DW in anyway then GTFO! He’s the best AD in college and it’s not close. TV wanted a shot at the pros and good for him. I hate we lost him but it’s business at the end of the day! You can think what you want but UT cannot match a major league salary for a manager!
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I keep seeing people talk about Tony’s salary and it is a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation. Tony is taking a pay cut to leave Tennessee when you consider taxes and cost of living. Tony’s concerns were never about how much he was being paid.
 
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05_never_again said:
I saw a Tweet that said it was the most Tennessee thing ever for the first coach to jump directly from college to MLB be our coach.

Good grief - the guy was here 8 seasons and won everything there was to win. It wasn't like he had 1 or 2 awesome seasons, but fell short of a championship, then bounced.
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No it is the most UT thing for a weak non-leader AD like DW to push out a natty winning coach. If you follow the legit people who know, it seems like Voltello was fed up with working for a weasel. Watch the press conference. DW led…LED with finances. Did not lead with a thank you or concern for the players. He has no idea what he is looking for in a baseball coach. He just killed the culture of our baseball program. He has no concern for the common fan. Behind the scenes he has said some idiotic things about the program. He should do everything he can to hire Elander. We are in trouble as an institution fellas. If you can’t see that I don’t know what to tell you. Plowman and Boyd should have stepped in and fired him and kept Tony. We are on shakier ground than many of you realize.
 
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Rocky Top T said:
Wrong, AD does talk to a coach when a coach is considering leaving. DW should have been talking to him every day the last week, not sending someone else like he said at press conference
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I had to go back and rewatch the pc, and I will grant you that he did say he primarily has specific program administrators that maintain contact with the coach for the program they administer during the normal course of business, but I never heard him specifically say he had not talked to Tony regarding this situation. He said Tony had been communicating with him regularly throughout this process, and as I said in another reply, I seriously doubt those were one-way conversations. He did say he doesn’t typically become “chummy” with assistant coaches as he believes a hierarchy should be maintained in how communication is passed along to subordinates of a head coach. Given the current situation, he did say he had spoken with Frank and with Elander over the past couple of days regarding the way forward if Tony did leave.
 
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Volrocketman said:
I had to go back and rewatch the pc, and I will grant you that he did say he primarily has specific program administrators that maintain contact with the coach for the program they administer during the normal course of business, but I never heard him specifically say he had not talked to Tony regarding this situation. He said Tony had been communicating with him regularly throughout this process, and as I said in another reply, I seriously doubt those were one-way conversations. He did say he doesn’t typically become “chummy” with assistant coaches as he believes a hierarchy should be maintained in how communication is passed along to subordinates of a head coach. Given the current situation, he did say he had spoken with Frank and with Elander over the past couple of days regarding the way forward if Tony did leave.
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Communicating and meeting in person with Tony is two different things
 
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runthrutheT said:
No it is the most UT thing for a weak non-leader AD like DW to push out a natty winning coach. If you follow the legit people who know, it seems like Voltello was fed up with working for a weasel. Watch the press conference. DW led…LED with finances. Did not lead with a thank you or concern for the players. He has no idea what he is looking for in a baseball coach. He just killed the culture of our baseball program. He has no concern for the common fan. Behind the scenes he has said some idiotic things about the program. He should do everything he can to hire Elander. We are in trouble as an institution fellas. If you can’t see that I don’t know what to tell you. Plowman and Boyd should have stepped in and fired him and kept Tony. We are on shakier ground than many of you realize.
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"Push out" a natty winning coach? He's taking probably the 5th or 6th best MLB job, for crying out loud.

I don't know if you actually watched the presser, but he led with a congratulations for TV, and then mentions those budget numbers in the context of when Tony first got there (which he explicitly mentions) relative to what they are today.

His presser today was a L for him, but not for the reasons you mentioned, which are inaccurate.
 
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05_never_again said:
"Push out" a natty winning coach? He's taking probably the 5th or 6th best MLB job, for crying out loud.

I don't know if you actually watched the presser, but he led with a congratulations for TV, and then mentions those budget numbers in the context of when Tony first got there (which he explicitly mentions) relative to what they are today.

His presser today was a L for him, but not for the reasons you mentioned, which are inaccurate.
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The talking about the budget/recruiting success was pure ego stroking and pettiness. Danny is well aware of all the discourse obviously, that was a direct shot at those questioning him giving Tony enough resources. We recruited that well because of 1) Tony 2) Tony 3) Tony’s staff 4) Tony 5) NIL.

His ego has him actually believing he could hire someone else that could replicate Tony’s success. He should’ve stopped after congratulating Tony.
 
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Rocky Top T said:
Communicating and meeting in person with Tony is two different things
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And how do you know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the communication was, or was not, face-to-face? Were you there? Was Chris Burke there? Or this anonymous booster? I know I wasn’t there so I don’t know if they did or didn’t meet face-to-face. I’ll take DW’s word that they had been communicating with each other about this.
 
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joevols89 said:
The talking about the budget/recruiting success was pure ego stroking and pettiness. Danny is well aware of all the discourse obviously, that was a direct shot at those questioning him giving Tony enough resources. We recruited that well because of 1) Tony 2) Tony 3) Tony’s staff 4) Tony 5) NIL.

His ego has him actually believing he could hire someone else that could replicate Tony’s success. He should’ve stopped after congratulating Tony.
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I don't disagree with any of that. The OP just said he "didn't lead with a thank you" which was just flatly untrue.

DW 100% knows what the narrative is out there and directed many of his comments to address that. Personally I was stunned he volunteered the fact that he didn't really work closely with TV, but one of the sports admins did, and that he basically has no relationship with and never talks to assistant coaches.
 
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Volrocketman said:
And how do you know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the communication was, or was not, face-to-face? Were you there? Was Chris Burke there? Or this anonymous booster? I know I wasn’t there so I don’t know if they did or didn’t meet face-to-face. I’ll take DW’s word that they had been communicating with each other about this.
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Because DW said he talked with Tony this morning. Chris Burke and the booster knows what they are talking about, I'll take their word
 
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I do not follow baseball at all but my thought is when they spoke Tony said he wanted to try the big leagues and it wasn’t about money and Danny realized there was nothing he could do to stop him so they parted on good terms and out of respect waited for Tony to announce. This is the logical take but Danny did not relay this very well during the presser.
 
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Rocky Top T said:
Because DW said he talked with Tony this morning. Chris Burke and the booster knows what they are talking about, I'll take their word
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At the risk of flogging a dead horse, I’ll agree he did say he had talked to Tony this morning - but he never said he had not talked to him at any point over the past several days. As for CB and the booster, I’ll reiterate the point that neither of them were directly involved in any of that communication, so neither of them knows specifically what was or was not said.

Goodnight all, and GBO!
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I keep seeing people talk about Tony’s salary and it is a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation. Tony is taking a pay cut to leave Tennessee when you consider taxes and cost of living. Tony’s concerns were never about how much he was being paid.
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Him taking a pay cut speaks more than anybody will admit. So far all we have heard is DW. If he screws this hire up then they better get those black curtains out because they are going to need then and maybe put LNS upgrades on hold. Elander should have been hired today.
 
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tnvols72 said:
Him taking a pay cut speaks more than anybody will admit. So far all we have heard is DW. If he screws this hire up then they better get those black curtains out because they are going to need then and maybe put LNS upgrades on hold. Elander should have been hired today.
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I would like to point out something. The salary of the coach is one thing and in college it crosses sports. 3 million for a HC is a lot of money, sure.

What do the San Francisco Giants pay in player salaries? Different ball game, it’s the hustle, c’mon now people.

Let’s look it up.
 
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234 million, all sports…UT

The Giants…baseball…no football etc…between 180 million and 200 million based on a quick search.

That’s ball park. Let it marinate.
 
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Wow, some of you just sound silly. Our AD is focused on who is here now. Defended our LV HC which is exactly what he should have done. Congratulated TV which is exactly what he should have done. Elevated a former HC to the interim which is exactly what he should have done. Has the lead recruiter focusing on keeping the team together which is exactly what he should have done. Tony wants to manage at the ML level. Good for him that he has that opportunity. Congratulate him and move on. No one is bigger than UT sports and as soon as the decision is made, you let the dead bury the dead and focus on who is here. For those of you who think an AD should be in daily contact with assistants don’t understand scale and don’t understand how little a head coach would want an AD “interfering” with their program. I’ve no idea how this will play out but the mob mentality seen by some of you is embarrassing. I’m going to enjoy going to the stadium next year. All those renovations don’t happen without Tony….. or Danny.
 
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runthrutheT said:
No it is the most UT thing for a weak non-leader AD like DW to push out a natty winning coach. If you follow the legit people who know, it seems like Voltello was fed up with working for a weasel. Watch the press conference. DW led…LED with finances. Did not lead with a thank you or concern for the players. He has no idea what he is looking for in a baseball coach. He just killed the culture of our baseball program. He has no concern for the common fan. Behind the scenes he has said some idiotic things about the program. He should do everything he can to hire Elander. We are in trouble as an institution fellas. If you can’t see that I don’t know what to tell you. Plowman and Boyd should have stepped in and fired him and kept Tony. We are on shakier ground than many of you realize.
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Less shaky than before he was hired. Schools have tried to poach our AD. Guess you want to go back to 2018 and before. That’s what you deserve instead of the everything school. Tony was given nil and fair rev share and was highest paid in his profession at one point and second now. He was given tons and it wasn’t enough. If I did that for an employee and he didn’t appreciate it or wanted to leave, kick him to the curb. The AD handled this like a businessman which he should. Not some over infatuated fan boy.
 
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