Safety shouldn't have counted - Ejection for roughing-the-passer instead

[Carl Pickens]

Yes. That's called a "tackle."

Your comment is called “dumb as ”
JA was clearly down and rid of the ball

 

[ConantheVolbarian]

UT got possession twice when they shouldn't have. Once was a fumble that got ruled incomplete and forced Bama to punt. The other was ruled a fumble, but UT's blatant illegal batting went uncalled when it would have kept possession with Bama.

Getting the ball when you shouldn't is a pretty big deal.

I watched the game and thought both of those were the right call. Not sure what you mean by batting. I'm just saying every flag was thrown on us until it was pretty much over and we had like a 1% of wining. There were some missed PI calls for sure until the very end of the game. And like I mentioned before, our SEC opponents almost never seem to get flagged for holding but we sure the heck do! I just wish that stuff was called more evenly. If we're going to call it tight or loose, it doesn't matter. Just call it the same way both ways. That doesn't happen in our games unfortunately. David Smith is a common head official for our games and he is an Alabama grad. He's been the head official for a lot of our games that had controversial calls that went against Tennessee

 

[HalfullVol]

Makes sense

Too bad AI isn’t officiating

 

[HalfullVol]

Yes. That's called a "tackle."

Um, Bama fan gonna Bama fan.

Toothless and lacking, maybe

 

[Volsbattle]

On the OPI play? Who are you accusing of targeting?



Yeah. Both teams got the benefit of some calls/no-calls. The refs weren't good, but they never are. In the end, they had nothing to do with the result.

Exactly. We got out coached and man handled. Until we get athletes like the big boys, we need to stay on the porch. Wait till Oklahoma gets through our offensive line. Back up qb better be ready.

 

[luthervol]

Exactly. We got out coached and man handled. Until we get athletes like the big boys, we need to stay on the porch. Wait till Oklahoma gets through our offensive line. Back up qb better be ready.

Didn't we have more rushing yards? and passing yards?

One play turned the game.

 

[MemphisVolFan1978]

Yes. That's called a "tackle."

That’s called a late hit on a defenseless player who is already down and no longer has possession of the ball.

 

[MemphisVolFan1978]

Exactly. We got out coached and man handled. Until we get athletes like the big boys, we need to stay on the porch. Wait till Oklahoma gets through our offensive line. Back up qb better be ready.

Other than the 4 sacks we didn’t get manhandled. We matched them yard for yard, but gave up a pick six from the one yard line instead of scoring. If you want to say that we shot ourselves in the foot multiple times and cost ourselves the game I’m fine with that, but any narrative that Alabama manhandled Tennessee is just not correct.

 

[#1fulmerite]

I was surprised we did get the roughing penalty when we did. Had JA not got up slow, ref would’ve thrown the flag. As far as nullifying the safety, we weren’t going to get that call at their place.

 

[bamawriter]

I watched the game and thought both of those were the right call. Not sure what you mean by batting.

Batting is swatting at a live ball. Tennessee's #27 clubbed the loose ball 10 yards up field. Because it was ruled a fumble, it should have been 10 yards from the spot of the foul and remained Bama's ball.

Fortunately, UT didn't score and it just led to the 99 yard drive. No harm no foul, I guess.

I'm just saying every flag was thrown on us until it was pretty much over and we had like a 1% of wining.

Cool. None of Bama's scoring drives were assisted by UT penalties until the last one. It's not like flags were keeping Bama's drives alive.

There were some missed PI calls for sure until the very end of the game. And like I mentioned before, our SEC opponents almost never seem to get flagged for holding but we sure the heck do!

Neither offense was called for holding on Saturday.

I just wish that stuff was called more evenly. If we're going to call it tight or loose, it doesn't matter. Just call it the same way both ways. That doesn't happen in our games unfortunately. David Smith is a common head official for our games and he is an Alabama grad. He's been the head official for a lot of our games that had controversial calls that went against Tennessee

Which ones? Not doubting you on this one, just curious. Smith tends to be one of the less controversial SEC refs. You don't hear nearly as much about him as Autrey or Williamson.

 

[bamawriter]

Didn't we have more rushing yards? and passing yards?

Bama was ahead in total yards til the final TD, then they let UT move the ball and burn clock. UT had less than 300 yards before they got > 120 on their two final possessions.

 

[LibertyVol]

Was I the only one who thought they should have called targeting on the sideline play when Joey got hurt? Sure looked like launching crown of helmet to helmet to me

Also on the unnecessary roughness penalty, there was no call until Aguilar rolled over and was obviously in a little pain.

 

[bamawriter]

That’s called a late hit on a defenseless player who is already down and no longer has possession of the ball.

Okay, let's call it a late hit. Result of the play plus 15 yards. UT gets to free kick from the 35.

 

[rocketskates]

Well the one personal foul that they did call later in the game was back the back judge who was 25 yards behind the play and not the official who was standing right there; so bottom line, you're not getting that call in Tuscaloosa unfortunately.

 

[rocketskates]

Okay, let's call it a late hit. Result of the play plus 15 yards. UT gets to free kick from the 35.

I think this is the issue, they would've called the intentional grounding/safety and then a late hit after the play. Likely would've still been a safety but we free kick it from 15 yards up.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Maybe post the video instead of just posting still shots:



The play starts around 5:35. Keeley is engaged with Heard, and as he sheds him Heard gives him a shove from behind. Keeley stumbles while he's pursuing Aguilar and lands on him within a second of Aguilar hitting the turf. The first still shot is the literal instance Aguilar hit the turf, and Keely is already stumbling toward him.

That benefit of the doubt isn’t given on targeting and nearly every other unnecessary roughness call, so why would it here. Also the elbows to the helmet of the qb happened repeatedly. Your dirty ass coach and dirty ass players knew exactly what they were doing while committing fouls that in every unbiased environment would have been called repeatedly. Instead, nobody gave a single fook that your team was intentionally trying to take our qb out of the game via illegal hits. Just like they didn’t give a shite about how many times your team literally lined up not even in the neutral zone but straight up offsides. I’ve had non-Tennessee fan friends, some of which are traditionally Tennessee haters, apologizing to me for what our team went through having watched the game.

Go fuq yourself and your dirty fuqqing program.

 

[EasternVol]

Exactly. We got out coached and man handled. Until we get athletes like the big boys, we need to stay on the porch. Wait till Oklahoma gets through our offensive line. Back up qb better be ready.

Aren't you a ray of sunshine? We matched up pretty well athletically, just made some bad plays at bad times and forgot how to tackle too often.

 

[MurphyVol]

Aren't you a ray of sunshine? We matched up pretty well athletically, just made some bad plays at bad times and forgot how to tackle too often.

Ahhh, don't be too hard on him. 27 years and counting without and SEC Championship will do that do you.

 

[MemphisVolFan1978]

Okay, let's call it a late hit. Result of the play plus 15 yards. UT gets to free kick from the 35.

I’m not arguing what the result of the penalty being called would be. I’m just stating that it looked like a penalty. Would it change the outcome of the game? Probably not, but you never know.

 

[goldvol]

Okay, let's call it a late hit. Result of the play plus 15 yards. UT gets to free kick from the 35.

Plus Keeley would have been ejected for targeting. And, would it automatically have been a dead ball foul? I think so, since the ball hit the ground. Found some grounds for agreement

 

[sjt18]

Bama held all game long... and you expect to get a call like that? Bama gets favorable officiating pretty much any time they play UT. That's especially true in Tuscaloosa.

 

[bamawriter]

Plus Keeley would have been ejected for targeting. And, would it automatically have been a dead ball foul? I think so, since the ball hit the ground. Found some grounds for agreement

A late hit is a dead ball foul. Being after the play is what makes it late.

 

[GAVol]

Yall would go crazy if one of our guys got flagged for that.

 

[tn4elvis]

I watched the game and thought both of those were the right call. Not sure what you mean by batting. I'm just saying every flag was thrown on us until it was pretty much over and we had like a 1% of wining. There were some missed PI calls for sure until the very end of the game. And like I mentioned before, our SEC opponents almost never seem to get flagged for holding but we sure the heck do! I just wish that stuff was called more evenly. If we're going to call it tight or loose, it doesn't matter. Just call it the same way both ways. That doesn't happen in our games unfortunately. David Smith is a common head official for our games and he is an Alabama grad. He's been the head official for a lot of our games that had controversial calls that went against Tennessee

Any grad of any school should never be allowed to call his schools games.

 

[goldvol]

A late hit is a dead ball foul. Being after the play is what makes it late.

Looks like you are wrong about the 15 yard penalty on the kickoff. Although roughing is normally a dead ball foul, “If a change of possession occurs” it is enforced from the previous spot. Should have been Tennessee ball with no safety.
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