Tony Vitello to SF Giants (Confirmed)

[CobbWebb71]

A plane from Toronto has been sitting at Tyson McGhee for 3 hours now

Great, so now the Raptors are trying to poach the Deacon?!

 

[VolsCigarMan]

So now I gotta dislike Gilbert because he’s trying to poach our coach? Just great.

Drew Gilbert might not even make the team. He finished batting a whopping .190 this year with 3 HR and 13 RBI. I really doubt a GM would take advice from a rookie batting .190. Different story if he was a 5-10 time All-Star and 10-15 years in the league.

 

[patrick]

A plane from Toronto has been sitting at Tyson McGhee for 3 hours now

Interesting information.

 

[rocketskates]

Never got the video of the cat turd eating.

He does really like eating turds, just not for a live audience.

 

[WaywardVol]

If Tony does go, is there honestly an AD on the planet that could have kept him? The answer is no lol

There is so much to the story and as you’ll see with various sources, there’s all kinds of things leaking out connected to NIL and Tony’s strained relationship with Danny White. But here’s the reality of the MLB job. If Tony is a legit candidate (which I think he is) for this job, any major league team with any sensibility would not want to pay him more than $2 million a year. Look at the pay of the 30 teams in MLB right now. This information isn’t secret so there’s no need to speculate. Tony makes more than over half of the managers in Major League Baseball, right now at Tennessee. That’s a fact. Only eight managers make over $4 million a year and those guys resumes are pretty damn impressive. We’re talking about a guy that’s never sat in a professional dugout in his life. Those are the kind of risk that MLB teams simply do not take. Not established programs like the Giants.

So, this is a huge gamble for the Giants if they go this direction. They do not want to be on the hook for some exuberant guaranteed contract for an unproven commodity. No matter how great we know that Tony is, that doesn’t translate to success in the major leagues. I’m really shocked at the lack of understanding of so many so-called sports fans understand about the differences in college and professional baseball. It’s huge.

The textbook answer seems to be that people think Tony will make more money in the major leagues when in fact that should never be the case. At BEST!!, he should be about a $1.5 million a year coach in Major league baseball. Would a lower level team take a risk on a coach like that to try to get a return on the investment? Sure. Does a top-notch team like the Giants do those kind of things? Hell no.

So, one has to believe that Tony’s going to be made one of the seven highest paid coaches in MLB. Think about that for a minute. And what is shocking is most people say this without even batting an eye. It is a completely insane proposition.

Therefore, I think Tony’s continued interest and pursuit is due to the fact that he is frustrated with the situation at UT. This reapportionment of NIL dollars is a lot bigger problem than what people know or are willing to admit. This has been brewing way before Tony’s name came up for any job. Danny White should’ve been working to fix this to find more resources and more money to provide baseball. Instead, it appears that Danny is throwing up his hands and saying, “what am I supposed to do?“ Well, I’ll tell you what you’re supposed to do, figure it the **** out!

Why has this drug out? This is only speculation on my part, but I truly believe it’s because Tony is trying to figure out a way to make the math make sense. On both sides. I believe if San Francisco would pay him $4 million the deal would be signed.

Dont get me wrong, I believe SF is genuinely interested, but this is pro ball. Ownership isn’t real keen on a GM going this far outside the box. And certainly not for big dollars.

My prediction? Tony takes the job and for a lot less money than people think. Why? I think k he’s over Danny White We’ll see.

 

[Proud Army Wife]

Now we’re plane tracking…

 

[VolsCigarMan]

They offered Hundley and now Vitello as their 2nd choice.

I read somewhere I though that 2 declined so far. forgot the names though

 

[Zues1]

Didn't know he was a mma fighter.

fixed it

 

[Jimmy Football]

Drew Gilbert might not even make the team. He finished batting a whopping .190 this year with 3 HR and 13 RBI. I really doubt a GM would take advice from a rookie batting .190. Different story if he was a 5-10 time All-Star and 10-15 years in the league.

“Danny, you’ve pissed me off. So I’m goin’ to California with an achin’ in my heart!”

“Tony, welcome to San Fran! We’re sending your boy down to triple, btw.”

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Let us prayif he does leave it will weed out the casual fans. I for one think Elander would be a badass recruiter which is what matters most in this era. Love you Tony V!

If he leaves at least we will have less fans is certainly a take.

 

[VolFan_stuck_in_the_901]

There is so much to the story and as you’ll see with various sources, there’s all kinds of things leaking out connected to NIL and Tony’s strained relationship with Danny White. But here’s the reality of the MLB job. If Tony is a legit candidate (which I think he is) for this job, any major league team with any sensibility would not want to pay him more than $2 million a year. Look at the pay of the 30 teams in MLB right now. This information isn’t secret so there’s no need to speculate. Tony makes more than over half of the managers in Major League Baseball, right now at Tennessee. That’s a fact. Only eight managers make over $4 million a year and those guys resumes are pretty damn impressive. We’re talking about a guy that’s never sat in a professional dugout in his life. Those are the kind of risk that MLB teams simply do not take. Not established programs like the Giants.

So, this is a huge gamble for the Giants if they go this direction. They do not want to be on the hook for some exuberant guaranteed contract for an unproven commodity. No matter how great we know that Tony is, that doesn’t translate to success in the major leagues. I’m really shocked at the lack of understanding of so many so-called sports fans understand about the differences in college and professional baseball. It’s huge.

The textbook answer seems to be that people think Tony will make more money in the major leagues when in fact that should never be the case. At BEST!!, he should be about a $1.5 million a year coach in Major league baseball. Would a lower level team take a risk on a coach like that to try to get a return on the investment? Sure. Does a top-notch team like the Giants do those kind of things? Hell no.

So, one has to believe that Tony’s going to be made one of the seven highest paid coaches in MLB. Think about that for a minute. And what is shocking is most people say this without even batting an eye. It is a completely insane proposition.

Therefore, I think Tony’s continued interest and pursuit is due to the fact that he is frustrated with the situation at UT. This reapportionment of NIL dollars is a lot bigger problem than what people know or are willing to admit. This has been brewing way before Tony’s name came up for any job. Danny White should’ve been working to fix this to find more resources and more money to provide baseball. Instead, it appears that Danny is throwing up his hands and saying, “what am I supposed to do?“ Well, I’ll tell you what you’re supposed to do, figure it the **** out!

Why has this drug out? This is only speculation on my part, but I truly believe it’s because Tony is trying to figure out a way to make the math make sense. On both sides. I believe if San Francisco would pay him $4 million the deal would be signed.

Dont get me wrong, I believe SF is genuinely interested, but this is pro ball. Ownership isn’t real keen on a GM going this far outside the box. And certainly not for big dollars.

My prediction? Tony takes the job and for a lot less money than people think. Why? I think k he’s over Danny White We’ll see.

If he's "over" Danny White, he's gonna be sick to ****ing death of the Giants ownership and MLB politics by July.... grass ain't always greener

 

[WaywardVol]

Yeah the NIL must be suffering. What is it. 8 top 100 prospects committed for 27 class? One of the best, if not the best, transfer portal haul.

Half of which will never play here. This only speaks to how good Tony really is. Baseball is behind the other sports, but that’s changing. Look at what Arkansas is doing. Charm only goes so far. So, if you want to go on poking fun at me and denying the problem, you’re about to get a reality check. I’ve already heard from a source that he’s gone.

 

[chuckiepoo]

There is so much to the story and as you’ll see with various sources, there’s all kinds of things leaking out connected to NIL and Tony’s strained relationship with Danny White. But here’s the reality of the MLB job. If Tony is a legit candidate (which I think he is) for this job, any major league team with any sensibility would not want to pay him more than $2 million a year. Look at the pay of the 30 teams in MLB right now. This information isn’t secret so there’s no need to speculate. Tony makes more than over half of the managers in Major League Baseball, right now at Tennessee. That’s a fact. Only eight managers make over $4 million a year and those guys resumes are pretty damn impressive. We’re talking about a guy that’s never sat in a professional dugout in his life. Those are the kind of risk that MLB teams simply do not take. Not established programs like the Giants.

So, this is a huge gamble for the Giants if they go this direction. They do not want to be on the hook for some exuberant guaranteed contract for an unproven commodity. No matter how great we know that Tony is, that doesn’t translate to success in the major leagues. I’m really shocked at the lack of understanding of so many so-called sports fans understand about the differences in college and professional baseball. It’s huge.

The textbook answer seems to be that people think Tony will make more money in the major leagues when in fact that should never be the case. At BEST!!, he should be about a $1.5 million a year coach in Major league baseball. Would a lower level team take a risk on a coach like that to try to get a return on the investment? Sure. Does a top-notch team like the Giants do those kind of things? Hell no.

So, one has to believe that Tony’s going to be made one of the seven highest paid coaches in MLB. Think about that for a minute. And what is shocking is most people say this without even batting an eye. It is a completely insane proposition.

Therefore, I think Tony’s continued interest and pursuit is due to the fact that he is frustrated with the situation at UT. This reapportionment of NIL dollars is a lot bigger problem than what people know or are willing to admit. This has been brewing way before Tony’s name came up for any job. Danny White should’ve been working to fix this to find more resources and more money to provide baseball. Instead, it appears that Danny is throwing up his hands and saying, “what am I supposed to do?“ Well, I’ll tell you what you’re supposed to do, figure it the **** out!

Why has this drug out? This is only speculation on my part, but I truly believe it’s because Tony is trying to figure out a way to make the math make sense. On both sides. I believe if San Francisco would pay him $4 million the deal would be signed.

Dont get me wrong, I believe SF is genuinely interested, but this is pro ball. Ownership isn’t real keen on a GM going this far outside the box. And certainly not for big dollars.

My prediction? Tony takes the job and for a lot less money than people think. Why? I think k he’s over Danny White We’ll see.

I think you’re over Danny White. Go ahead and re-roll the ticket pricing diatribe…

 

[Dadof2Vols]

There is so much to the story and as you’ll see with various sources, there’s all kinds of things leaking out connected to NIL and Tony’s strained relationship with Danny White. But here’s the reality of the MLB job. If Tony is a legit candidate (which I think he is) for this job, any major league team with any sensibility would not want to pay him more than $2 million a year. Look at the pay of the 30 teams in MLB right now. This information isn’t secret so there’s no need to speculate. Tony makes more than over half of the managers in Major League Baseball, right now at Tennessee. That’s a fact. Only eight managers make over $4 million a year and those guys resumes are pretty damn impressive. We’re talking about a guy that’s never sat in a professional dugout in his life. Those are the kind of risk that MLB teams simply do not take. Not established programs like the Giants.

So, this is a huge gamble for the Giants if they go this direction. They do not want to be on the hook for some exuberant guaranteed contract for an unproven commodity. No matter how great we know that Tony is, that doesn’t translate to success in the major leagues. I’m really shocked at the lack of understanding of so many so-called sports fans understand about the differences in college and professional baseball. It’s huge.

The textbook answer seems to be that people think Tony will make more money in the major leagues when in fact that should never be the case. At BEST!!, he should be about a $1.5 million a year coach in Major league baseball. Would a lower level team take a risk on a coach like that to try to get a return on the investment? Sure. Does a top-notch team like the Giants do those kind of things? Hell no.

So, one has to believe that Tony’s going to be made one of the seven highest paid coaches in MLB. Think about that for a minute. And what is shocking is most people say this without even batting an eye. It is a completely insane proposition.

Therefore, I think Tony’s continued interest and pursuit is due to the fact that he is frustrated with the situation at UT. This reapportionment of NIL dollars is a lot bigger problem than what people know or are willing to admit. This has been brewing way before Tony’s name came up for any job. Danny White should’ve been working to fix this to find more resources and more money to provide baseball. Instead, it appears that Danny is throwing up his hands and saying, “what am I supposed to do?“ Well, I’ll tell you what you’re supposed to do, figure it the **** out!

Why has this drug out? This is only speculation on my part, but I truly believe it’s because Tony is trying to figure out a way to make the math make sense. On both sides. I believe if San Francisco would pay him $4 million the deal would be signed.

Dont get me wrong, I believe SF is genuinely interested, but this is pro ball. Ownership isn’t real keen on a GM going this far outside the box. And certainly not for big dollars.

My prediction? Tony takes the job and for a lot less money than people think. Why? I think k he’s over Danny White We’ll see.

yea and that math has to include Ca taxes and SF cost of living and does he owe sexton more if he takes a lesser contract than the one he is buying out of?

 

[MarcoVol]

Half of which will never play here. This only speaks to how good Tony really is. Baseball is behind the other sports, but that’s changing. Look at what Arkansas is doing. Charm only goes so far. So, if you want to go on poking fun at me and denying the problem, you’re about to get a reality check. I’ve already heard from a source that he’s gone.

That’s not gonna be a reality check.

I’d fully expect that a college baseball coach given the opportunity to manage an MLB team would jump at that opportunity. Again, that’s an unheard of thing. I’d be more shocked if a college HC turned it down.

As for who does/doesn’t get to campus, TV would get his fair share. But that’s the risk that every college coach knows going into recruiting those guys.

 

[patrick]

There is so much to the story and as you’ll see with various sources, there’s all kinds of things leaking out connected to NIL and Tony’s strained relationship with Danny White. But here’s the reality of the MLB job. If Tony is a legit candidate (which I think he is) for this job, any major league team with any sensibility would not want to pay him more than $2 million a year. Look at the pay of the 30 teams in MLB right now. This information isn’t secret so there’s no need to speculate. Tony makes more than over half of the managers in Major League Baseball, right now at Tennessee. That’s a fact. Only eight managers make over $4 million a year and those guys resumes are pretty damn impressive. We’re talking about a guy that’s never sat in a professional dugout in his life. Those are the kind of risk that MLB teams simply do not take. Not established programs like the Giants.

So, this is a huge gamble for the Giants if they go this direction. They do not want to be on the hook for some exuberant guaranteed contract for an unproven commodity. No matter how great we know that Tony is, that doesn’t translate to success in the major leagues. I’m really shocked at the lack of understanding of so many so-called sports fans understand about the differences in college and professional baseball. It’s huge.

The textbook answer seems to be that people think Tony will make more money in the major leagues when in fact that should never be the case. At BEST!!, he should be about a $1.5 million a year coach in Major league baseball. Would a lower level team take a risk on a coach like that to try to get a return on the investment? Sure. Does a top-notch team like the Giants do those kind of things? Hell no.

So, one has to believe that Tony’s going to be made one of the seven highest paid coaches in MLB. Think about that for a minute. And what is shocking is most people say this without even batting an eye. It is a completely insane proposition.

Therefore, I think Tony’s continued interest and pursuit is due to the fact that he is frustrated with the situation at UT. This reapportionment of NIL dollars is a lot bigger problem than what people know or are willing to admit. This has been brewing way before Tony’s name came up for any job. Danny White should’ve been working to fix this to find more resources and more money to provide baseball. Instead, it appears that Danny is throwing up his hands and saying, “what am I supposed to do?“ Well, I’ll tell you what you’re supposed to do, figure it the **** out!

Why has this drug out? This is only speculation on my part, but I truly believe it’s because Tony is trying to figure out a way to make the math make sense. On both sides. I believe if San Francisco would pay him $4 million the deal would be signed.

Dont get me wrong, I believe SF is genuinely interested, but this is pro ball. Ownership isn’t real keen on a GM going this far outside the box. And certainly not for big dollars.

My prediction? Tony takes the job and for a lot less money than people think. Why? I think k he’s over Danny White We’ll see.

And a 700,000 reduction in Tony’s rev-share of NIL (a reduction transitioned to women’s basketball) would certainly be perceived as a slap in the face to a Natl Championship winning baseball coach. 700k goes a pretty good ways in the realm of baseball recruiting/portal!

 

[chuckiepoo]

Half of which will never play here. This only speaks to how good Tony really is. Baseball is behind the other sports, but that’s changing. Look at what Arkansas is doing. Charm only goes so far. So, if you want to go on poking fun at me and denying the problem, you’re about to get a reality check. I’ve already heard from a source that he’s gone.

So. You’re doubling down too…

 

[WaywardVol]

If he's "over" Danny White, he's gonna be sick to ****ing death of the Giants ownership and MLB politics by July.... grass ain't always greener

I agree completely, which is why I can’t believe it ever got off the ground. But, it’s off the ground. In fact, I think the deal happened today, but that’s a 2nd hand source, not the one who’s directly connected.

I also don’t think Tony is one of those guys who will play the game. I think he’ll put up a good face in public, but I think Plowman will hear it all.

 

[Sandman Vol]

I don’t believe the narrative about SF and Tony being their clear second choice and that Drew Gilbert alone is the catalyst for the decision to pursue TV if that is indeed the desired result, nor do I believe they are willing to make the financial commitment to a college coach that would be necessary to ensure his success. That would be a pretty foolish ownership/leadership decision making, and plenty of people they could turn to before Tony if they indeed were willing to commit that type of money to their organizations success.

I don’t believe that there’s beef between DW and Tony, that DW is not making Vol baseball a priority or that Tony feels the baseball team is not being committed to, or that Tony is that mad about a measly $700k if there’s any truth in that narrative.

The only things I believe about this whole situation are:
- there is A LOT of false information and rumor generating going on around this.
- CTV and Jimmy Sexton are smart and gonna get paid one way or another, whether directly via a contract with Tenn/SF or through increased commitment to Vol baseball. They’d be fools to let the situation, real or rumor, go to waste.

- I might be biased in this last one, but I can’t imagine the SF opportunity being a better situation for Tony than what he has here. They could double his salary and I still wouldn’t believe it. It’s a completely different world and the chances of him being fired and back in the college ranks in 5 years are way greater than the chances of his potential “success”. If TVs ultimate definition of success is winning a MLB World Series than sure I believe he could be lured away. But I have no idea of that about Tony and he strikes me as a college coach more than an mlb type, and I would think having the ability to write a frank martin type story line but with the championships to boot (and maybe more than any other college coach ever), would be a more attractive legacy to pursue than a singular World Series at the pro level. Ok I might be very biased but that’s my opinion on the situation if it’s all based on “potentials and what ifs”.

 

[Sandman Vol]

Half of which will never play here. This only speaks to how good Tony really is. Baseball is behind the other sports, but that’s changing. Look at what Arkansas is doing. Charm only goes so far. So, if you want to go on poking fun at me and denying the problem, you’re about to get a reality check. I’ve already heard from a source that he’s gone.

I don’t believe it’s a problem. I believe it’s an opportunity, and I don’t think there’s an administration better equipped to handle it right now than that of Tennessee and DW/Donde.

#everythingschool and the rising tide is lifting all the boats.

 

[UTK]

There is so much to the story and as you’ll see with various sources, there’s all kinds of things leaking out connected to NIL and Tony’s strained relationship with Danny White. But here’s the reality of the MLB job. If Tony is a legit candidate (which I think he is) for this job, any major league team with any sensibility would not want to pay him more than $2 million a year. Look at the pay of the 30 teams in MLB right now. This information isn’t secret so there’s no need to speculate. Tony makes more than over half of the managers in Major League Baseball, right now at Tennessee. That’s a fact. Only eight managers make over $4 million a year and those guys resumes are pretty damn impressive. We’re talking about a guy that’s never sat in a professional dugout in his life. Those are the kind of risk that MLB teams simply do not take. Not established programs like the Giants.

So, this is a huge gamble for the Giants if they go this direction. They do not want to be on the hook for some exuberant guaranteed contract for an unproven commodity. No matter how great we know that Tony is, that doesn’t translate to success in the major leagues. I’m really shocked at the lack of understanding of so many so-called sports fans understand about the differences in college and professional baseball. It’s huge.

The textbook answer seems to be that people think Tony will make more money in the major leagues when in fact that should never be the case. At BEST!!, he should be about a $1.5 million a year coach in Major league baseball. Would a lower level team take a risk on a coach like that to try to get a return on the investment? Sure. Does a top-notch team like the Giants do those kind of things? Hell no.

So, one has to believe that Tony’s going to be made one of the seven highest paid coaches in MLB. Think about that for a minute. And what is shocking is most people say this without even batting an eye. It is a completely insane proposition.

Therefore, I think Tony’s continued interest and pursuit is due to the fact that he is frustrated with the situation at UT. This reapportionment of NIL dollars is a lot bigger problem than what people know or are willing to admit. This has been brewing way before Tony’s name came up for any job. Danny White should’ve been working to fix this to find more resources and more money to provide baseball. Instead, it appears that Danny is throwing up his hands and saying, “what am I supposed to do?“ Well, I’ll tell you what you’re supposed to do, figure it the **** out!

Why has this drug out? This is only speculation on my part, but I truly believe it’s because Tony is trying to figure out a way to make the math make sense. On both sides. I believe if San Francisco would pay him $4 million the deal would be signed.

Dont get me wrong, I believe SF is genuinely interested, but this is pro ball. Ownership isn’t real keen on a GM going this far outside the box. And certainly not for big dollars.

My prediction? Tony takes the job and for a lot less money than people think. Why? I think k he’s over Danny White We’ll see.

The NIL thing is a dumb argument. Women’s basketball should be getting more NIL than the baseball program yes, it’s just the pecking order. Baseball will always be 4th regardless of how many natties it wins. I guarantee you Tennessee baseball gets more NIL dedicated to it than 99% of college baseball programs.

I love Tony V, but DW has done everything realistically to help him build and sustain a top program here. That’s just facts.

 

[RandomUTfan]

I really wish posters who post as if they were in a position to inform learned the difference between NIL and revenue sharing. If you knew who was funding baseball NIL you would understand why money isn't an issue. The issue that Tony made a public stink about, and what people are now throwing up to have someone to blame for their perceived wronging, was the proportion of the revenue sharing that baseball received vs. the other teams on campus. Baseball is sharing from a pool including Lady Softball and all the other sports on campus besides the big 3. I get that that's frustrating and Tony has every right to be mad about it, but it's also in line with what every other SEC team is agreeing to. So he's not being put at a disadvantage, as you can clearly see from recruiting/portal.

I think everyone is making too big of a stink about that. If Tony leaves it will not be because he didn't feel like he was given enough to win championships.

 

[WaywardVol]

So. You’re doubling down too…

It ain’t me bro.

 

[kiddiedoc]

yea and that math has to include Ca taxes and SF cost of living and does he owe sexton more if he takes a lesser contract than the one he is buying out of?

Between taxes and cost of living, even if SF paid him $2.5M, it would be close to an effective 50% pay cut from what he makes here. Plus, he would have to live in San Francisco.

 

[VolsCigarMan]

There is so much to the story and as you’ll see with various sources, there’s all kinds of things leaking out connected to NIL and Tony’s strained relationship with Danny White. But here’s the reality of the MLB job. If Tony is a legit candidate (which I think he is) for this job, any major league team with any sensibility would not want to pay him more than $2 million a year. Look at the pay of the 30 teams in MLB right now. This information isn’t secret so there’s no need to speculate. Tony makes more than over half of the managers in Major League Baseball, right now at Tennessee. That’s a fact. Only eight managers make over $4 million a year and those guys resumes are pretty damn impressive. We’re talking about a guy that’s never sat in a professional dugout in his life. Those are the kind of risk that MLB teams simply do not take. Not established programs like the Giants.

So, this is a huge gamble for the Giants if they go this direction. They do not want to be on the hook for some exuberant guaranteed contract for an unproven commodity. No matter how great we know that Tony is, that doesn’t translate to success in the major leagues. I’m really shocked at the lack of understanding of so many so-called sports fans understand about the differences in college and professional baseball. It’s huge.

The textbook answer seems to be that people think Tony will make more money in the major leagues when in fact that should never be the case. At BEST!!, he should be about a $1.5 million a year coach in Major league baseball. Would a lower level team take a risk on a coach like that to try to get a return on the investment? Sure. Does a top-notch team like the Giants do those kind of things? Hell no.

So, one has to believe that Tony’s going to be made one of the seven highest paid coaches in MLB. Think about that for a minute. And what is shocking is most people say this without even batting an eye. It is a completely insane proposition.

Therefore, I think Tony’s continued interest and pursuit is due to the fact that he is frustrated with the situation at UT. This reapportionment of NIL dollars is a lot bigger problem than what people know or are willing to admit. This has been brewing way before Tony’s name came up for any job. Danny White should’ve been working to fix this to find more resources and more money to provide baseball. Instead, it appears that Danny is throwing up his hands and saying, “what am I supposed to do?“ Well, I’ll tell you what you’re supposed to do, figure it the **** out!

Why has this drug out? This is only speculation on my part, but I truly believe it’s because Tony is trying to figure out a way to make the math make sense. On both sides. I believe if San Francisco would pay him $4 million the deal would be signed.

Dont get me wrong, I believe SF is genuinely interested, but this is pro ball. Ownership isn’t real keen on a GM going this far outside the box. And certainly not for big dollars.

My prediction? Tony takes the job and for a lot less money than people think. Why? I think k he’s over Danny White We’ll see.

Everything you said makes total sense and my thoughts as well. The one thing I would add, if Giants do hire TV, there will be problems in the clubhouse, book it! As much as I love TV as our coach of the Vols and what he has done for us but bottom line is he never played in the majors or even coached in the majors. This will cause issues because players especially the veterans will have no respect at all towards TV, none at all.

It would take time to build that respect with veterans but not sure Giants can afford to be patient if they don't start winning and push back from fans with hiring a college coach.