No Kings

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EasternVol said:
What if one's not on either side but pays taxes? Really your statement is comical. Waste is waste and Trump's wasting money like there's no tomorrow. New ballroom anyone?
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Plans for the ballroom were announced by the White House on July 31, 2025. The construction of the ballroom is estimated to cost $250 million as of October 2025, with the cost met by President Donald Trump and private donors.
 
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LouderVol said:
might want to read the next paragraph
" Democrats have had less time to divorce because they marry later. And because the GSS data are not longitudinal, we do not know if the Republican rate of divorce for any given marriage is indeed higher. Additional research will have to determine, conditional on length of marriage, if Republicans or Democrats have greater risks of divorce."

basically Rs have been married longer, thus the possibility of divorce is greater. also that quote you use, and the article itself use several terms I couldn't find definitions for that seem like they need to throw out some qualifiers for.

"ever-married" vs "shared married". they say Rs are more likely to be "ever-married", so beyond the Rs being married longer, and more being married, it seems like there is some qualifier they are throwing in with the part you quoted.

here are some other qualifiers they throw out. it sounds like they aren't tracking which way someone leaned when they divorced, they are just looking at the current status. the implications that divorced men are joining Rs would throw the metrics.
"his may be partly because divorced men have moved in large numbers into the Republican camp in recent years. It may also be due to the fact that Republicans marry at an earlier age, which may increase their lifetime risk of divorce. "
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It's irrelevant to the fact that the members of the "party of family values" gets divorced at or above the rate of non-republicans.
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's irrelevant to the fact that the members of the "party of family values" gets divorced at or above the rate of non-republicans.
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There are no parties, not really. If one believes in family, I would say that goes beyond whether someone gets a divorce. This is a loony discussion. Heck, we have never married, certainly wouldn't get a state license even if we did. We still have a family, we still look out for each other. I have family members that are family and they are not blood related or by marriage.... still family.

You got them now though.
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's irrelevant to the fact that the members of the "party of family values" gets divorced at or above the rate of non-republicans.
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again if you read the actual article it covers that. it notes that the Republicans divorce mostly after the kids have moved out. maintaining a two parent household for the family. only divorcing after the kids move out. seems pretty "family value" to me.
 
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YankeeVol said:
Plans for the ballroom were announced by the White House on July 31, 2025. The construction of the ballroom is estimated to cost $250 million as of October 2025, with the cost met by President Donald Trump and private donors.
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I didn't know that. Surprised, tbh.
 
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volbeast33 said:
you would have to be dumb or naive to believe that is even a possibility.
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After the little AI stunt (that Trump posted) yesterday with him flying a plane labeled “King Trump” and wearing a crown and then the Republicans selling hats that say “Trump 2028”, you might want to reconsider who you’re calling dumb and naive. Possibly consider looking in the mirror. He’s more than capable of trying to pull something to try to stay in office. I seem to recall:

- Trying to get his own VP to subvert an election
- Encouraged a mob to march on the US Capitol while they are ratifying the election he lost.
- Telling the head of the election in Georgia: “All I need is for you to find 11,000 votes!”

What in his past suggests he won’t try to stay in office? Has he ever paid attention to the rules when they are not in line with what he needs? That stunt yesterday was beneath the office of the President and should be roundly criticized by all reasonable people. But I guess we’ve all gotten used to crass and low class behavior from him since it happens nearly every day.
 
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LouderVol said:
again if you read the actual article it covers that. it notes that the Republicans divorce mostly after the kids have moved out. maintaining a two parent household for the family. only divorcing after the kids move out. seems pretty "family value" to
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I am glad those who aren't in the party of family values are legitimately concerned about family values. So much so, I would like to advise those so concerned to do all you can to get yourselves and your neighbors into orthodox christian churches and attend regularly.
The divorce rate of married couple who attend together and regularly have the lowest divorce rates. Or become an Asian couple. Other options, Mormons, Sikhs, Black protestants, Hindus.

In addition, do all you can to prevent lesbians marrying. they have an atrocious divorce rate.

TIA
 
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appvol said:
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Obviously, whatever the reason they are involved in this - its for the benefit of Trump for the next 100 years. They are working for him either directly or indirectly, as I said in the summer of 2024. All this loony stuff has the opposite intended result.
 
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YankeeVol said:
Plans for the ballroom were announced by the White House on July 31, 2025. The construction of the ballroom is estimated to cost $250 million as of October 2025, with the cost met by President Donald Trump and private donors.
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Yes, but the National parks service will have to maintain it and that comes out of our wallet.
 
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Delmar said:
After the little AI stunt (that Trump posted) yesterday with him flying a plane labeled “King Trump” and wearing a crown and then the Republicans selling hats that say “Trump 2028”, you might want to reconsider who you’re calling dumb and naive. Possibly consider looking in the mirror. He’s more than capable of trying to pull something to try to stay in office. I seem to recall:

- Trying to get his own VP to subvert an election
- Encouraged a mob to march on the US Capitol while they are ratifying the election he lost.
- Telling the head of the election in Georgia: “All I need is for you to find 11,000 votes!”

What in his past suggests he won’t try to stay in office? Has he ever paid attention to the rules when they are not in line with what he needs? That stunt yesterday was beneath the office of the President and should be roundly criticized by all reasonable people. But I guess we’ve all gotten used to crass and low class behavior from him since it happens nearly every day.
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Well, I could go through some of that for you but you didn't seem to mind when the U.S. government, Obama, Hillary, etc. were colluding not only with the U.S. courts and Congress, but also foreign governments to overthrow a President candidate, a President and President elect.

For the record, I somewhat disagree with 2 out of 3 of your points and don't have enough context on #3.
 
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LouderVol said:
again if you read the actual article it covers that. it notes that the Republicans divorce mostly after the kids have moved out. maintaining a two parent household for the family. only divorcing after the kids move out. seems pretty "family value" to me.
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What does waiting till the kids are gone have to do with divorce being acceptable to Republicans?

You guys are actively trying to end no fault divorce ffs.
www.theguardian.com

Conservative US lawmakers are pushing for an end to no-fault divorce

Republicans in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas have discussed eliminating or restricting such cases
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
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BeardedVol said:
What does waiting till the kids are gone have to do with divorce being acceptable to Republicans?

You guys are actively trying to end no fault divorce ffs.
www.theguardian.com

Conservative US lawmakers are pushing for an end to no-fault divorce

Republicans in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas have discussed eliminating or restricting such cases
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Getting a State license involves getting the State in to regulate. That is just a State issue that I can see, I'm not seeing the problem one way or another. Just more usual headache when splits happen.

Or better yet don't get the State involved in private affairs.
 
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BeardedVol said:
What does waiting till the kids are gone have to do with divorce being acceptable to Republicans?

You guys are actively trying to end no fault divorce ffs.
www.theguardian.com

Conservative US lawmakers are pushing for an end to no-fault divorce

Republicans in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas have discussed eliminating or restricting such cases
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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you were making the claim it was about "family values". I pointed out that even in divorce the Republicans were divorcing in a manner that gave the "traditional family" a real shot.

granted it could just be a bad marriage with the kids stuck between an angry mom and dad, but the article you posted didn't support the claim you were originally making.

I acknowledge you moving the goalposts after it became clear you didn't read your own article.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Yeah man, I'm sure those donation to the "League of Conservations Voters Inc." went strait into paid protesters' pockets; no one would have protested without those funds going to the the LCV.
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Funny, I took the information a different way, they had a "No King" protest paid for by the historic kings.
 
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