Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

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Ten_Titans said:
Hopefully everybody's uncle, neighbor, and barber tells the team how bad they play on the road and we go Krogering to an absolute 30+ point mud hole stomping.
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Someone on this board told me that the guy in UT colors that delivered the stiff arm to the KY fan was a reserve OL a few years ago.
 
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GVol1966 said:
You must be his wife because you post like you know more about him than anyone but he himself?

Come on dude, everyone has their opinions but NO ONE outside the actual coaches know nearly as much as you claim to.
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I'm pretty sure I'm not married to Josh Heupel myself, but I knew what you're responding to. I don't think it's a pre-requisite like you assume.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
The inflated ppg average from 2022 was helped by playing a murderers row in non conference.

Ball State
Akron
Ut-Martin..
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Counterpoint though is that we led the SEC in scoring per game in 2022. Just in conference games, we averaged 43+ points per game. That was almost 4 more points than Bama.

We scored 30+ in 7 of 8 conference games and 40+ in 5 conference games. Nothing inflated about that.
 
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Jimmy Football said:
1. Not all of this is false. I agree that, at some point soon, Heup is going to have to demand more out of his assistants or make some tough decisions. Also, Heup has got to re-adjust his approach to match his current squad. This isn’t a “lean on the defense” team the way it has been the last two years.

2. However. here is the list of “championship” head coaches currently employed in college jobs:
- Kirby Smart
- Ryan Day
- Dabo Swinney

That’s the list. Everyone else is in the same boat as Heup, including the guy we just lost to. Bama fans said this same stuff about DeBoer when they looked like absolute garbage against, what has turned out to be, a pretty bad FSU squad. Now they’re a national title favorite.

This is the new reality of college football. Sometimes you’re gonna look bad because rosters are thinner, rosters are closer in talent level across the league, and it’s hard to play A-level games week-in and week-out. And I think it’s going to be the case, going forward, that “championship teams” grow throughout the season and get hot at the right time, instead of dominating from start to finish, the way it used to be.
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Two weeks ago, Texas beats Oklahoma and is Aces. This week it’s OT and a goal line stand to beat Kentucky. National and local media and some fans Tennessee isn‘t getting it done😡
 
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Rishvol said:
I'm still on about the officiating. Everytime they get momentum a "self inflicted" penalty happened. It's the same every week. Many of the 5 yard penalties were complete B's at the start of the game and it got worse from there. As Heupel said last week. Those "penalties" change how a game is called
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the OPI that backed us up completely screwed us. if the pick 6 never happens, that OPI leading to the safety and another TD for them was a huge gut punch that we'd be talking about
 
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85SugarVol said:
It’s a VNRF tale as old as time…

Every single year this board talks about how bad Florida has looked.
Talks about how comparatively good we have looked.

There are some who point out “It’s Florida”.
They are invariably mocked and shouted.

Then we play the game.

And overwhelmingly more times than not - They Beat Us.

Game is in the Swamp. Doesn’t matter how bad Florida looks. Doesn’t matter how chaotic the program is.

It will take a great performance to be beat them.
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I hate pointing it out too. Last year, UT was the much better team but it took a double digit comeback and OT to beat them at home.

The team laid an egg to an even worse team at the Swamp in 2023.

It’s psychological but hopefully the reverse jinx works this year!
 
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knoxvol52 said:
Well Vitello is at practice and the scrimmage today.... Probably a good sign..
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At the very least, it makes it unlikely that this is an “already signed, just waiting for a non-playoff day to announce” situation.

More likely that negotiations with both sides are still occurring.
 
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Wickman said:
There are no elite teams in college football anymore.

Nation Champions will have 1-3 losses from here on out.

Heupel has plenty of flaws, but so does literally every coach. The national champion coach last year almost got fired.
We have sucked for nearly 20 years.

Heupel is still a top-15 coach and the best we can do. He does need to improve, but it is an absolute blessing to have him.
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You're exactly right. Many fans have not caught up to the new reality in CFB. Free agency and NIL have created much more parity, just like the NFL. I believe we will make the playoffs and then all bets are off ( Tennessee is really good TV now and don't think that doesn't enter the equation). Two and Three loss teams are heading to the playoffs in CFB.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I also think for where we were, and where college sports are now. Especially the SEC...

until we're consistently recruiting top 5 classes.... every season we win 8+ games is a big time success to me.
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Next season nobody-G tech-nobody-9 straight SEC games👀
Fans in the SEC better adjust to the new normal of 1 lost team is elite, 2-lost teams upper echelon and 3 lost normal. I’m not saying I’ll like it but it’s about to get way harder to get 10-11 wins year after year.
 
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Jimmy Football said:
At the very least, it makes it unlikely that this is an “already signed, just waiting for a non-playoff day to announce” situation.

More likely that negotiations with both sides are still occurring.
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World Series starts Friday after the ALCS ends tonight. For sure a announcement either way will happen in the next 3 days...
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
I’ll feel much better about our overall trajectory if we beat Kentucky and OU. One foot in front of the other.
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I think we dominate UK. Fans/team back into it vs OU. Neyland is packed and rocking for that game. Another opportunity to show that we are real. We missed 1 FG vs UGA and we had a disastrous pick 6.

I'm not ready to flush this team.
 
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rikberry31 said:
You're exactly right. Many fans have not caught up to the new reality in CFB. Free agency and NIL have created much more parity, just like the NFL. I believe we will make the playoffs and then all bets are off ( Tennessee is really good TV now and don't think that doesn't enter the equation). Two and Three loss teams are heading to the playoffs in CFB.
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I think the "parity" we are seeing is largely illusory. It's just my opinion, but I think what you've seen is some of the teams that had success under the former model, having less of it now, and teams that had less success in the previous model, are finding unheard-of-previously success in this modern college football world.

We have really yet to see long-term what this is going to look like. There are a handful of teams that have virtually unlimited funds to spend on buying players, but they've only been doing it one (Texas Tech) or a couple of seasons (Indiana). I'm really fearful of what the landscape is going to look like after 4 years of a handful of schools investing at a level only they can compete at.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Nah. UF>fsu sadly
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Lol, of course it is.

“Current state of program” != “Quality of the job”

Florida is an absolute mess right now, and has been.

But they have all the pieces required - Revenues, AD Commitment, Boosters, Goldmine Recruiting Grounds, Fans, Facilities.

Average Coaches win a lot of games there.
Great Coaches win Titles there.

I hope they don’t get a great Coach.
 
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