Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

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therickbol said:
Legitimate question. If the ball s thrown where is it was supposed to be thrown; which throw is more risky. Not saying a jumpball at Brazzell is bad call. But I wonder if it's legitimate to think about jumpball into rolled coverage could deflect into an interception more often than the type of throw on the play we ran. Again, assuming the throw is put where it should have been thrown.
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I just didnt like the play call in general. I thought we'd do that shovel pass we used to do with Fant. That throw to the flat with every defender on the line, short side of the field was not cool.
 
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jakez4ut said:
I think when you lose like we did and you know we had a hand in helping the other team win, and you've seen those same things all season in games we've won.. It just confirms your worst feelings.

So the back end of the defense is just bad. The lbs are not great. The defensive line can rush the QB and get tfls.

The defense as a group looks like defenses we fielded in the 2010's and that's scary as hell... You can thank injuries and the portal. If you blame banks, fine,I won't argue. But personnel is the bigger issue, imo.

Offensively...I think last night was the worst the oline has been all year, which was disappointing. I wasn't worried about that..... Now? FL and OU have defensive lines and front 7s that are real issues for THAT version of our o line. And vandy plays clean football that can certainly take advantage of a team that gives away opportunities life we do.

From a coaching standpoint... The multitude of mental mistakes are unacceptable. It's year 5, culture set, this staff's roster... We cannot compete at the level we want if we shoot ourselves in the face every game.

I've said it a hundred times..I can deal with getting beat by a better team. I cannot stand helping the other team best us and that's what we did last night. But we've shown the propensity for it all year.

10-2 and a playoff spot is still very much possible.

But I feel 8-4 is closer today than at any point this season as I type this, this morning. I think this team lacks player leadership. I think this team has an accountability issue. And I don't know that gets fixed in time to matter.

Nobody deserves to be fired or anything, not what I'm saying. Just that this year, despite the start and improved QB/wr may, in fact, be the transition year so many thought it would be to begin with.
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Disagree about player leadership

They're just dumb
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
I just didnt like the play call in general. I thought we'd do that shovel pass we used to do with Fant. That throw to the flat with every defender on the line, short side of the field was not cool.
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Yeah but if that gets stopped, we get no points and fans say Heupel is too conservative. He's in a lose-lose situation on pretty much every important play.
 
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JacketVol said:
Pick 6 was not risk just a poor throw. Most of his others have not been gunslinger crap but 50 50 deep ball like punts on 3rd down or off hands of WR’s. I’ve been fine with him outside that throw and I’m wondering how much injury played a part. He is a gunslinger
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Yup. I’m a big fan of Aguilar’s game and the picks are part of it. He’s always thrown a bunch. The pick 6 was a miss inside on a play where the one thing you can’t do is miss inside.

I wish there had been a rub element coming from the outside that could have given a little more room at the pylon, but the read there is throw it to the pylon or throw it in the stands.

He’ll bounce back. I hope he’s not hurt or, if he is, gets well soon.
 
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Hope everybody is finding some peace today. Like everybody else this one is lingering in a bad way for me. I think that play call to end the half has replaced the Pig Howard fumble into the endzone as the all time worst single game defining moment that I’ve seen. Pig was a mistake, but we called that play. The whole sequence of time management to force that passing down to then bunch everybody and try to spread at the snap…what in the actual hell!?

Sorry, I know it’s been said a hundred times but I really just needed to get that out of my head so I can move on. Love you guys! Peace!
 
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Smokey123 said:
There’s a difference between getting stopped on a good play call vs getting stopped on one of the worst play calls you’ll ever see
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I mean, that's a touchdown if Joey throws it more outside. That's a good play call when you consider how much time we have left/ no timeouts, just really bad execution. It's one of the worst outcomes of a play call you'll ever see in that situation but Kitselman was there
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Bingo.

Also who has Banks really brought in to that room that's been even great?

Will Brooks = walk-on and even with how well he played in his last year was he really great?

2026 class... Jowell Combay, KJ McClain & Luke Thompson all 3 outside top 45 at their position
2025 class... Sidney Walton the only S recruited and our lowest rated
2024 class... John Slaughter & Jack Luttrell 3 stars and neither even on the team now
2023 class... Jourdan Thomas still not playing even in 2 deep

Just don't get it.... secondary is the issue every year and it's like Banks/Willie think they're elite player development guys or something. But all the best production has come from dudes that came here in the portal and were developed elsewhere.
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Jourdan Thomas has been injured for 2 years or he would have been a starter both years. Played pretty well against Iowa and was said to be really good in practice before the injury last year.

But we shouldn’t be relying on one player. We should have landed way better than we have and that’s on Banks.
 
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SmyrnaATLVolisback said:
I don’t think it will be good for Florida like it was Arkansas. Players love Billy. Lagway may go ahead and enter the portal if he is fired.
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Not going to happen. There are millions of reasons. Players would likely stick around for the most part. Most teams who fired coaches to this point lost very few players. UCLA lost none. These players are being paid to play. If they don't play, they don't get paid. Guys who are redshirting and hitting the portal around the country are betting on themselves. You'll notice that trend isn't confined to teams with fired coaches.
 
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Heupel's Offseason Beard said:
I mean, that's a touchdown if Joey throws it more outside. That's a good play call when you consider how much time we have left/ no timeouts, just really bad execution. It's one of the worst outcomes of a play call you'll ever see in that situation but Kitselman was there
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It’s not. Watch it again. The guy was 2 steps from kits and watching Joey the whole time. Joey had another guy to the right of him in his face and another guy directly in front of him. He had zero chance of completing that play, it should have been in the stands tho


You think passing from a jumbo package when the entire stadium knows you’re about to run a play action is a good idea?
 
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