Cignetti change

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CAVPUT said:
The game is nuts. What I find interesting is that pic that someone posted that showed Cignetti, Smart and Kiffin all on Saban's staff. Give the man credit. He was confident enough to hire 3 of best current coaches to be on his staff. Leave it to UT to get Pruitt from the bama tree. Geez.
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But, but, but Fulmer was a genius for hiring Pruitt (blue font).
 
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Not surprised. Although I think he will continue to be successful, I recall Michigan State laying crazy money on their coach who tanked the next year. Earlier this week everyone was posting about exorbitant buyouts, but now we watch an agent put a gun to the administration’s head and walk away with a bag.
 
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volfanhill said:
Guy has won big with a ton of his old players from JMU. Same as Vandy. Still skeptical. Next year will tell the story on both these coaches
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He's winning this year in large part due to a transfer QB he got prior to this season. I think next year will tell the story more on Lea than Cignetti.

Even if they don't, hell, even a flash in the pan great season is impressive at places like Indiana and Vandy. Is it easy to win at Indiana with a bunch of players you brought from James Madison? Is it easy to win in the SEC with a transfer QB from NM State? lol
 
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Orange-U-Glad said:
Not surprised. Although I think he will continue to be successful, I recall Michigan State laying crazy money on their coach who tanked the next year. Earlier this week everyone was posting about exorbitant buyouts, but now we watch an agent put a gun to the administration’s head and walk away with a bag.
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As wild as it is to give coaches, regardless of how good they are, this kind of guaranteed money, I don't think this one is as dumb as the Mel Tucker contract. Michigan St gave Mel Tucker big money during his first (and only) breakout season, and that breakout season was in large part due to a single player (Kenneth Walker). Tucker also hadn't proven anything prior to that as a head coach.

At least Indiana is paying Cignetti midway through a second good season, after showing what he did the prior year was repeatable. Plus he was great at the FCS level as a head coach before taking the Indiana job. It certainly is possible that at some point he pulls a Mike Norvell and whiffs on a transfer class though, leading to a really bad season.
 
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05_never_again said:
As wild as it is to give coaches, regardless of how good they are, this kind of guaranteed money, I don't think this one is as dumb as the Mel Tucker contract. Michigan St gave Mel Tucker big money during his first (and only) breakout season, and that breakout season was in large part due to a single player (Kenneth Walker). Tucker also hadn't proven anything prior to that as a head coach.

At least Indiana is paying Cignetti midway through a second good season, after showing what he did the prior year was repeatable. Plus he was great at the FCS level as a head coach before taking the Indiana job. It certainly is possible that at some point he pulls a Mike Norvell and whiffs on a transfer class though, leading to a really bad season.
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I won't defend the Tucker move, but they were also paranoid about him leaving because that was the craziest coaching offseason we ever had. LSU, USC, Notre Dame, Oregon, Oklahoma, Miami, Florida AND Washington all opened up in 2021-2022, jobs that are better than Michigan State.

Literally was perfect timing for him.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Not sure how you can be skeptical. He's still winning on a P4 level. With a school that traditionally people haven't even realized they had a football team. No one, I repeat NO ONE thought of football when they thought of Indiana. But Cignetti is a fun guy to listen to. He is cocky and refreshing but not in a d-bag way like Kiffin can sometimes be. He is just fun. If Heupel left today, he'd be a fantastic replacement. That being said, he ain't leaving IU, nor should he.
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Yeah, Kiffin banging on students not showing up was just weird. WTH they don't play for you.
 
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IU has also during these past two years had a good schedule. Last year they lost to the two good teams they played in Notre Dame and Ohio State. The win at Oregon is always impressive but is Oregon as good as we thought they were honestly? That win at Penn State doesn't hold water now.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
IU has also during these past two years had a good schedule. Last year they lost to the two good teams they played in Notre Dame and Ohio State. The win at Oregon is always impressive but is Oregon as good as we thought they were honestly? That win at Penn State doesn't hold water now.
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I'm not sure there are any dominant teams anymore. His win at Oregon this year was more impressive than any win they had last year. As good as last season was for them, their best win was a nailbiter over a Michigan team, in Bloomington, that finished the regular season 7-5. They were beaten pretty convincingly by the 2 really good teams they played. I still think Oregon is good, and Autzen is a tough place to go play.
 
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College and the NFL are both in a spot this season where there is no clear-cut favorite. I guess Ohio State would be my pick but that's still not a lock by ANY means.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
College and the NFL are both in a spot this season where there is no clear-cut favorite. I guess Ohio State would be my pick but that's still not a lock by ANY means.
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I feel like it’s either OSU or Miami. Indiana looks great, but I’m not entirely convinced they’re championship quality just yet. And Bama feels too inconsistent to be considered the best.
 
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You can never overpay for the right coach...Period. They have stumbled into what looks to be one of the kinds of generationally great coaches that Indiana would otherwise never have access to. This is a no brainer good move.
 
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McDad said:
Got a new contract at IU for 11.6M per year.

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Breaking: IU football reaches new 8-year deal with Curt Cignetti

The Penn State noise has been shut down. For the second time in as many years, Indiana has restructured head football coach Curt Cignetti’s contract during the season. The new deal has an ave…
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Indiana realizes they might not ever have the opportunity to break into the revenue that Colege Football can yield over the next century. This is an investment in that. Not many programs who are trying to do the same thing bring in a guy who is proven, let alone proven at their school.
 
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CAVPUT said:
The game is nuts. What I find interesting is that pic that someone posted that showed Cignetti, Smart and Kiffin all on Saban's staff. Give the man credit. He was confident enough to hire 3 of best current coaches to be on his staff. Leave it to UT to get Pruitt from the bama tree. Geez.
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TBF Saban also hired the trumpet blower.

Nicks genius had its limits
 
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05_never_again said:
He's an incredibly smug and cocky guy who benefited from a soft schedule last year (and lost convincingly to the 2 good teams he played), but what he's done there is still amazing. The Mendoza pickup in the Portal has paid enormous dividends.
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This 100%. What he has done this year is remarkable, but he parlayed an incredibly soft schedule into a huge offseason raise, and batting his eyes at Penn State got him into the elite coaching pay level. He is clearly a very good coach and matches it with his ego and smugness - referring to yourself in the third person is a telltale sign.

Now let's see if he can maintain this level of performance if other Big 10 schools finally start to have a pulse with all the money flowing into the league.
 
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Illinoisvolfan2 said:
I’m very dubious that their improvement will hold long term. Even Vandy has won more games than them historically. But we’ll see. No doubt he’s an excellent coach though
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The reason that his success may very well continue is that IU is now committed to pouring money into the football program, and they have incredible resources that are coming out of the woodwork, like Mr. Cuban.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
Finebaum is a Alabama window licker... Anyone considered a good coach outside of the SEC he poo poo's on....
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Pawwwl , either has really surface level takes, or parrots what he gleams from Sankey. Back before he went national and had just a B'ham radio show, and was still writing columns, his opinion was still valuable.
 
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