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Brave Volunteer said:
In Fulmer's prime, nobody recruited better than him! He was the "Kirby Smart" in his day in terms of recruiting. I appreciate Huepel and Im pleased with the program he has built here, but no. He is not recruiting at a prime Fulmer level yet.
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I had to look that up and could only find year 2000 and later. The team recruiting rankings vs the on field record was just pitiful..

How do you recruit top 5 classes most years and play for one conference title? Fulmer got so little out of all that talent, the amount of failure would have been malpractice in most high paying professions.
 
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adam.vol said:
I had to look that up and could only find year 2000 and later. The team recruiting rankings vs the on field record was just pitiful..

How do you recruit top 5 classes most years and play for one conference title? Fulmer got so little out of all that talent, the amount of failure would have been malpractice in most high paying professions.
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We won sec titles in 97 and 98. That’s 2 titles, yes we should have at least had 1 more in the 90’s maybe 2. 99 team had more talent than 98. Could have been a 3 peat right there. GBO
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
We won sec titles in 97 and 98. That’s 2 titles, yes we should have at least had 1 more in the 90’s maybe 2. 99 team had more talent than 98. Could have been a 3 peat right there. GBO
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It could be argued that the 96/97 teams had more talent than either of them. But the 99 team didnt have Al Wilson. That was a huge void in leadership.
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
We won sec titles in 97 and 98. That’s 2 titles, yes we should have at least had 1 more in the 90’s maybe 2. 99 team had more talent than 98. Could have been a 3 peat right there. GBO
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The four years between 95 and 98 were magical. Everything after 98 was disappointing (though not all terrible by 2010’s standards). I looked pretty hard for some older rankings and eventually Google led me back to this site. 😆

volglass said:
These are recruiting rankings from 1992-2001. This was in column by Jacob Luft on CNNSI.com in 2002 and it shows Allen Wallace and Tom Lemming's rankings (pre-rivals). I completely hijacked from some random blog so don't shoot the messenger.
The best way to build championship programs is to have multiple top 10 recruiting classes-something Tennessee hasn't done in a long time. We need recruiting continuity and Butch might just be able to do that.


1992
Rk

Wallace/Lemming

1. Florida/Notre Dame
2. Miami/Miami
3. Colorado/Colorado
4. Michigan/Florida St.
5. Texas A&M/Florida
6. Clemson/Ohio State
7. Notre Dame/Michigan
8. Florida St./LSU
9. Texas/Texas A&M
10. Oklahoma/Tennessee

1993
Rk

Wallace/Lemming

1. Florida St./Florida St.
2. Notre Dame/Michigan
3. Michigan/Notre Dame
4. Tennessee/Tennessee
5. Alabama/Stanford
6. Stanford/Miami
7. Miami/Alabama
8. Florida/Oklahoma
9. Texas/Florida
T10. Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Syracuse Georgia

1994
Rk

Wallace/Lemming

1. Tennessee/Tennessee
2. Southern Cal/Ohio State
3. Florida St./Michigan
4. Michigan/Florida St.
5. Miami/Southern Cal
6. Alabama/Alabama
7. Notre Dame/Penn State
8. Georgia/Texas A&M
9. Ohio State/Notre Dame
10. Boston College/North Carolina

1995
Rk

Wallace/Lemming

1. Notre Dame/Notre Dame
2. Florida St./Florida St.
3. Penn State/Auburn
4. Texas A&M/Penn State
5. Michigan/Nebraska
6. Florida/Texas A&M
7. Auburn/Florida
8. Alabama/Tennessee
9. Colorado/Southern Cal
10. Nebraska/Illinois

1996
Rk

Wallace/Lemming

1. Penn State/Ohio State
2. Southern Cal/Florida St.
3. Notre Dame/LSU
4. Ohio State/Penn State
5. Florida St./Southern Cal
6. Nebraska/Florida
7. Michigan/Tennessee
8. Tennessee/Notre Dame
9. Colorado/Michigan
10. LSU/Nebraska, Baylor

1997
Rk

Wallace/Lemming

1. Florida St./Tennesee
2. Penn State/Florida St.
3. Florida/Florida
4. Michigan/Penn State
5. Colorado/Michigan
6. Texas/Texas
7. Alabama/Colorado
8. Tennessee/Southern Cal
9. Notre Dame/North Carolina
10. North Carolina/Notre Dame

1998
Rk

Wallace/Lemming

1. UCLA/Michigan
2. Michigan/UCLA
3. Notre Dame/Notre Dame
4. Florida St./Florida
5. Georgia/Alabama
6. Alabama/Florida St.
7. Florida/Georgia
8. Tennessee/LSU
9. LSU/North Carolina
10. Texas/Southern Cal

1999
Rk

Wallace/Lemming

1. Texas/Texas
2. Ohio State/Georgia
3. Alabama/Notre Dame
4. Michigan/Ohio State
5. Texas A&M/Alabama
6. UCLA/Texas A&M
7. Florida/UCLA
8. Notre Dame/Michigan
9. LSU/LSU
10. Georgia/Florida St.

2000
Rk

Wallace/Lemming

1. Florida/Florida
2. Texas/Tennessee
3. Florida St./Alabama
4. Penn State/Florida St.
5. Tennessee/Texas
6. Alabama/Michigan St.
7. Ohio State/Penn State
8. Southern Cal/Notre Dame
9. Miami/Ohio State
10. Michigan St./Southern Cal

2001
Rk

Wallace/Lemming

1. Florida St./Florida St.
2. LSU/Michigan
3. Michigan/LSU
4. Texas/Texas
5. Washington/Tennessee
6. Oklahoma/Oklahoma
7. Nebraska/Miami
8. Virginia Tech/Washington
9. UCLA/Southern Cal
10. Clemson/Clemson
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Woodlawn VOL said:
I agree, the 99 team lacked that type of leadership. 96 and 97 teams were very talented too. All 4 of them teams were capable. GBO
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Really from 95-2001, the talent level here was just ridiculous! Maybe the most talent we've ever had here in a 7 year stretch. Sadly, it was down hill from there. We still had "good" talent from 2002-2008, but not on the same level as from 95-2001. We also had a lot of churn in those years because Fulmer recruited a lot of questionable character guys.
 
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adam.vol said:
I had to look that up and could only find year 2000 and later. The team recruiting rankings vs the on field record was just pitiful..

How do you recruit top 5 classes most years and play for one conference title? Fulmer got so little out of all that talent, the amount of failure would have been malpractice in most high paying professions.
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Brave Volunteer said:
There's no question that he is a better offensive mastermind than Fulmer was. No debating it. But as an overall head coach, when Huepel wins more than 152 games here, at least 1 natty and some conference championships, I'll say he's a better coach than Fulmer.
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Well it is considerable harder to win in the sec now.
 
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Dansky said:
Well it is considerable harder to win in the sec now.
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You coach in the era you coach in. I'm not holding that against Fulmer. Who's to say that a young and hungry Fulmer wouldn't have done well in this era? No one can possibly know, just like we dont know how successful Huepel would have been here in the 90's and 00's.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Recruiting is part of being a great head coach. Fulmer in his prime was as good as anybody. Huepel is not at Fulmer's level, at least not yet. We need to see some top 5 classes first.
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He’s not, but our recruiting has gotten better and better as he’s been here. Who’s to say it won’t keep improving? We are competitive year in year out. Our brand has been repaired faster than any of us could’ve imagined.
 
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RockyTop140 said:
He’s not, but our recruiting has gotten better and better as he’s been here. Who’s to say it won’t keep improving? We are competitive year in year out. Our brand has been repaired faster than any of us could’ve imagined.
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Thats why I said he's not at Fulmer's level YET! I'm not saying he can't get there. He might! But he's not there right now.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Really from 95-2001, the talent level here was just ridiculous! Maybe the most talent we've ever had here in a 7 year stretch. Sadly, it was down hill from there. We still had "good" talent from 2002-2008, but not on the same level as from 95-2001. We also had a lot of churn in those years because Fulmer recruited a lot of questionable character guys.
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Yes 2000-2001 were talented teams. I thought we were just talking nineties. Really from 1989- 2001 we were pretty steady in talented squads. Maybe a few young squads in there but we were overall very good. GBO
 
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#97
wmcovol said:
Thirsday
Heupel at Franklin (TN) High School to see 2026 3* S commit Luke Thompson
• ⁠Heupel/Elarbee at Siegel High School in Murfreesboro, TN to see 2027 4* OT Princeton Uwaifo
• ⁠Elarbee at Friendship Christian School in Lebanon, TN to see 2027 4* IOL Kaden Buchanan
• ⁠Elarbee at Kirkwood High School in Clarksville, TN to see 2026 4* OT commit Kamari Blair and stay for the game vs LaVergne (TN) High School. Kirkwood won 40-9 with Blair catching a TD pass and throwing a 20-yd completion.
• ⁠Elarbee/Banks at Battle Ground Academy in Franklin, TN to see 2028 4* DL Ayden Woodruff, 2028 NR OT Koehn Dial, and 2028 NR WR Maximus Curry
• ⁠Heupel/Banks at Oakland High School in Murfreesboro, TN to see 2026 4* ATH commit Joel Wyatt play vs Rockvale (TN) High School. Oakland won 35-14, Wyatt had a 42-yd TD reception and an INT.
• ⁠Halzle at Leesville (LA) High School to see Benton (LA) High School 2027 4* QB Malachi Zeigler play in Thursday night's game. Zeigler threw for 2TD in a Benton 42-35 win.

Friday
Heupel at Halls High School in Knoxville, TN to see 2027 4* S Jarrell Chandler
• ⁠Heupel at West High School in Knoxville, TN to see 2027 3* LB commit JP Peace
• ⁠Heupel at Grimsley High School in Greensboro, NC to see 2026 5* QB commit Faizon Brandon (still injured, not playing)
• ⁠Banks at Howard High School in Macon, GA to see 2027 4* S Ta'Shawn Poole
• ⁠Banks at Hampton (GA) High School to see 2027 4* LB Kamarui Dorsey
• ⁠Banks at East Coweta High School in Sharpsburg, GA to see 2027 5* S Chance Gilbert
• ⁠Banks at Douglas County High School in Douglasville, GA to see teammates 2027 4* S Kennedy Green and 2027 4* OT Joshua Sam-Epelle
• ⁠Heupel/Banks at Blessed Trinity Catholic High School in Roswell, GA to see Kell High School teammates 2026 4* LB commit Brayden Rouse, 2026 [3* S commit Jowell Combay] (https://247sports.com/Player/jowell-combay-46154744/), and 2027 4* RB Quinterrius Gipson play in Friday night's game
• ⁠Heupel/Banks at Blessed Trinity Catholic High School in Roswell, GA to see 2027 5* Edge DJ Jacobs, younger brother 2028 4* DL Dawson Jacobs play in Friday night's game
• ⁠Halzle at Libertyville (IL) High School to see 2027 5* TE Brock Williams
• ⁠Halzle at Mount Carmel High School in Chicago, IL to see teammates 2027 4* LB Roman Igwebuike, 2027 4* WR Quentin Burrell, and 2027 4* CB Tavares Harrington
• ⁠Halzle at Brother Rice High School in Chicago, IL to see 2027 4* DL Brayden Parks
• ⁠Halzle at Marian Catholic High School in Chicago Heights, IL to see 2027 3* RB Jeremiah Stonewall
• ⁠Halzle at Carmel High School in Mundelein, IL to see 2027 4* QB Isreal Abrams play in Friday night's game
• ⁠Garner at Pace Academy in Atlanta, GA to see 2027 4* DL Justin Weeks
• ⁠Garner at Brookwood High School in Snellville, GA to see teammates 2027 4* RB Brayden Tyson and 2027 NR ATH Julian Elzey
• ⁠Garner at Parkview High School in Lilburn, GA to see 2027 4* S KJ Caldwell
• ⁠Garner at Harrison High School in Kennesaw, GA to see McEachern High School 2026 3* DL commit Darryl Rivers
• ⁠Sims at Byrnes High School in Duncan, SC to see 2027 4* RB David Segarra
• ⁠Sims at Irmo High School in Columbia, SC to see teammates 2027 4* Edge Jaiden Bryant and 2027 4* OT Nate Carson
• ⁠Sims at Prince Avenue Christian School in Bogart, GA to see 2027 4* S Jerry Beard
• ⁠Sims at Spalding High School in Griffin, GA to see Sandy Creek High School 2026 4* Wisconsin RB commit Amari Latimer play in Friday night's game.
• ⁠Martinez at Southwind High School in Memphis, TN to see 2027 4* OT Antonio Keefer
• ⁠Martinez at Collierville (TN) High School to see teammates 2026 3* Memphis DL commit Marshall Smith and 2027 4* ATH Tae Walden Jr.
• ⁠Martinez at Westview High School in Martin, TN to see teammates 2027 3* CB Miles Brown and 2027 4* RB Asa Barnes
• ⁠Martinez at Haywood High School in Brownsville, TN to see 2027 NR ATH Jaden Butler
• ⁠Martinez at Hardin County High School in Savannah, TN to see Jackson North Side High School 2026 3* CB commit Javonte Smith play in Friday night's game
• ⁠Harbin at Franklin Road Academy in Nashville, TN to see 2027 4* LB Omarii Sanders
• ⁠Harbin at Springfield (TN) High School to see 2028 4* CB Jermaine Cobbins
• ⁠Harbin at Antioch (TN) High School to see 2027 4* QB Andre Adams
• ⁠Harbin at East Robertson High School in Cross Plains, TN to see 2026 4* Edge commit Zach Groves play in Friday night's game
• ⁠Elarbee at John Carroll High School in Fort Pierce, FL to see 2027 4* IOL Sean Tatum
• ⁠Elarbee at Fort Pierce Westwood in Fort Pierce, FL to see 2027 3* LB Deion Jackson
• ⁠Elarbee at Jones High School in Orlando, FL to see 2027 4* Edge Frederick Ards
• ⁠Elarbee at Vero Beach (FL) High School to see 2026 4* UCLA IOL commit Micah Smith play in Friday night's game
• ⁠Pope at Davis High School in Kaysville, UT to see 2027 4* S Bode Sparrow
• ⁠Pope at Ridgeline High School in Millville, UT to see 2027 4* Edge Krew Jones
• ⁠Pope at Timpview High School in Provo, UT to see 2027 4* IOL Ian Aloisio
• ⁠Pope at Box Elder High School in Brigham City, UT to see Fremont High School 2026 4* ATH commit Salesi Moa play in Friday night's game
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1. How does any of those coaches make so many games in one night logistically?2
2. That 4* kid in Bogart at Prince Ave is literally 15 minutes from campus in Smarts own backyard. You can't tell if you are in Bogart or Athens at that point. When you are coming in from the north and hit the 4 lane roundabout, you continue south to go to campus, or go west to hit Prince Ave.
 
#99
#99
GVF said:
His own kid plays for Baylor JV this year after transferring from his Colorado middle school, and they own a house in Chattanooga now accordingly. Marshall will be a freshman on the varsity squad next season at Balyor.
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I know, but I wish he had picked McCallie instead. Supposedly, Peyton has owned a lake house in the Chattanooga area for many years.
 
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