President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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Orange_Crush said:
Perhaps, which is why I'm asking questions.

I said:



To which you replied:




So, I'm trying to ascertain what, in your experience, gives you expertise in the effects of uninsured patients in public ERs--which is the subject you're arguing with a member of the public healthcare system about, having posted that you "know your way around an ER" because you were a cog in military hospitals.


I asked for clarification, and you said:





Perhaps it's understandable that I am struggling, since you seem to be arguing my point for me?

So, clearly stated, you're confirming that you didn't deal with the effects of 'uninsured' patients in military hospitals, so your experience would not be analogous to public healthcare and the effects of its abuses on taxpayers?

That will help me not struggle. TIA.
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Hard to have a reasonable dialog with someone who's mind is made up to be disagreeable.

Public or military ERs treat tons of people who are not suffering a true emergency.
 
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It's crazy how nobody on the right can bring themselves to say anything real or of substance about Trump because they'd either be supporting/excusing the stupidest **** ever or they'd be in his crosshairs.

 
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swampfoxfan said:
Hard to have a reasonable dialog with someone who's mind is made up to be disagreeable.

Public or military ERs treat tons of people who are not suffering a true emergency.
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I asked for clarification. I read your replies, which seemed to be confirming my point. How is that unreasonable or made up to be disagreeable?

You can very well correct me if I am incorrect in my interpretations.

I'll ask again, with a completely open mind as to your response.

If you admittedly did not work in an ER that dealt with uninsured patients, how did you develop expertise in the effects of uninsured patients on public facilities? If the government rightly pays for ER visits for everyone in the hospitals you worked in, how did you develop expertise in the comparison of potential ER abuse when the government does not pay for their services? Isn't the question about that? Whether ER abuse is more prevalent when the patient has to pay, as opposed to when they aren't expected to?

It seems neither closed minded, unreasonable, nor disagreeable to ask for that clarity if you are positing your former experience as expertise on the matter.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's crazy how nobody on the right can bring themselves to say anything real or of substance about Trump because they'd either be supporting/excusing the stupidest **** ever or they'd be in his crosshairs.

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You just don’t see it because you blocked all of us
 
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n_huffhines said:
First it was illegals that were branded as "invaders." Now it's people unhappy with the government.

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There are reports that the CK shooting was part of a home-grown militant group, funded by China. If that were true, would it give more context to Trump's words that it's home-grown invaders that are no different than foreign invaders?
 
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Vol8188 said:
You mentioned that despite access to free clinics people don’t care and abuse the ER if they don’t have insurance because they’re not going to pay either way.

You went on to proclaim that cost is then passed down to tax payers.

I replied that giving them insurance doesn’t improve but worsens the overall issue by giving the patient even less reason to care about the cost of the ER.

Not sure how in your mind this was in someway off topic or unrelated
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And I don’t know how you could possibly be unsure? I asked whether you disagreed with my description of the current situation. Then I told you your assumption about what I was saying was wrong. Then I told you why your understanding was wrong. Then I explained which parts of the explanation you were failing to comprehend.

Between your last three posts, you seem to - at best - be pretending not to have even understood that it was even being explained to you.

Now you’re asking me to do it all over again? Respectfully, I decline.

I don’t know what you think you’re accomplishing with this. Why would anybody care what you have to say about anything complicated when a simple explanation can’t resolve a simple misunderstanding?
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's crazy how nobody on the right can bring themselves to say anything real or of substance about Trump because they'd either be supporting/excusing the stupidest **** ever or they'd be in his crosshairs.

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The video will not play. I clicked the link and it went to an IG page and I couldn’t find the video.

Could you please summarize the video and what everyone is supposed to condemn.

Your statement that nobody on the right saying anything of substance or real about Trump is asinine.

Plenty of people on the right on this very platform have called him an idiot.

I would be very interested in seeing what the Tennessee holler’s opinion is on the video you posted.
 
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volbeast33 said:
It was a government program that had contracts with certain facilities to provide care. I worked at an Atrium Healthcare facility as Rehab Director. It covered illegal immigrants and American citizens that didn’t qualify for any kind of benefits(typically young people that had messed up their bodies/minds on drugs) We were instructed by the Hospital to give them what they need.

We would treat them as much as 60-100 days compared to individuals that had insurance at 14-18 days and medicare at 20-30 days.
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That's exceptionally generous.

Did it help outcomes? Reasonable success with that tough demographic?
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
The video will not play. I clicked the link and it went to an IG page and I couldn’t find the video.

Could you please summarize the video and what everyone is supposed to condemn.

Your statement that nobody on the right saying anything of substance or real about Trump is asinine.

Plenty of people on the right on this very platform have called him an idiot.

I would be very interested in seeing what the Tennessee holler’s opinion is on the video you posted.
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Weird, it plays for me on VN. I don't follow them, so privacy ain't the issue you're having.

I'm talking about Republican leadership. The account is a Republican account, so I didn't mean right wing civilians.
 
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McDad said:
That's exceptionally generous.

Did it help outcomes? Reasonable success with that tough demographic?
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We had a couple of success stories but the majority we would have stopped therapy due to lack of progress. I will say that the illegal Aliens were appreciative of the help we were giving them. The Americans that fit that program were not as gracious.
 
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