War in Ukraine

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hog88 said:
Why don’t they just stop buying Russian gas?
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For once, you're asking the right question. And I agree!

I really wasn't sure either, but now I understand. It's that dipshit Orban in Hungary. Of course he's still buying Russian oil. He and Putin spend alot of time together in hot tubs.

### Overview of Russian Oil Imports in Europe
Following Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the European Union implemented a comprehensive ban on seaborne imports of Russian crude oil (effective December 2022) and refined oil products (effective February 2023). This reduced Russia's share of EU petroleum imports from 29% in early 2021 to just 2% by mid-2025. However, exemptions for pipeline imports via the Druzhba pipeline—originally temporary—have allowed two landlocked EU countries to continue receiving Russian crude. These exemptions were intended to give time for diversification but have been extended amid opposition from the affected nations.

As of October 2025, the EU is negotiating a full phase-out of all Russian oil imports by 2027–2028, accelerated by pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump to halt purchases entirely. Despite this, direct imports persist in limited volumes (around 200,000–250,000 barrels per day total, or ~3% of EU demand).

### European Countries Still Importing Russian Oil
Only **Hungary** and **Slovakia** continue to import Russian crude oil directly via pipeline. These imports are legally permitted under EU exemptions, but both countries have increased reliance since 2022 (Hungary from 61% to 86% of its crude from Russia; Slovakia remains ~100% dependent). No other European countries (EU or non-EU) are reported to have significant direct imports of Russian crude in 2025.

| Country | Import Method | Estimated Volume (2025) | Notes |
|-----------|---------------|--------------------------|-------|
| **Hungary** | Druzhba pipeline | ~100,000–125,000 bpd | Accounts for ~86% of Hungary's crude needs; refineries optimized for Urals-grade oil. Recent deals aim to reduce reliance by 1% annually, but progress is slow. |
| **Slovakia** | Druzhba pipeline | ~100,000–125,000 bpd | Near-total dependence; diversification plans target 60% non-Russian by end-2025, but full cutoff risks shortages and higher prices. |

- **Turkey** (a non-EU European country and NATO member) is a major importer of Russian oil (~6% of Russia's crude exports in 2025), valued at ~€62 billion since 2023. However, it refines and re-exports much of this as products to the EU, rather than direct crude imports by other Europeans.
- **Indirect imports**: Some EU countries (e.g., Belgium, France, Spain) import refined oil products potentially derived from Russian crude via third countries like India and Turkey, estimated at €9 billion in 2024. These are not direct "Russian oil" purchases but circumvent sanctions.

### Broader Context and Future Outlook
- **Economic Impact**: These imports fund ~€2–3 billion annually for Russia from the EU, down from €16 billion pre-invasion. Full enforcement of the G7 price cap ($60/barrel) could cut this further.
- **Diversification Efforts**: The EU's REPowerEU plan supports alternatives from the U.S. (up 6% in 2024), Norway, and Africa. Hungary and Slovakia face proposed tariffs on Russian oil to force faster shifts.
- **Geopolitical Pressure**: Trump's demands for NATO allies to end all Russian energy buys by late 2025 could accelerate the phase-out, though Hungary's Viktor Orbán and Slovakia's Robert Fico have resisted, citing energy security.

Sources confirm no changes as of October 2025; the situation remains static pending new EU sanctions.
 
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#89,427
MontyPython said:
For once, you're asking the right question. And I agree!

I really wasn't sure either, but now I understand. It's that dipshit Orban in Hungary. Of course he's still buying Russian oil. He and Putin spend alot of time together in hot tubs.

### Overview of Russian Oil Imports in Europe
Following Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the European Union implemented a comprehensive ban on seaborne imports of Russian crude oil (effective December 2022) and refined oil products (effective February 2023). This reduced Russia's share of EU petroleum imports from 29% in early 2021 to just 2% by mid-2025. However, exemptions for pipeline imports via the Druzhba pipeline—originally temporary—have allowed two landlocked EU countries to continue receiving Russian crude. These exemptions were intended to give time for diversification but have been extended amid opposition from the affected nations.

As of October 2025, the EU is negotiating a full phase-out of all Russian oil imports by 2027–2028, accelerated by pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump to halt purchases entirely. Despite this, direct imports persist in limited volumes (around 200,000–250,000 barrels per day total, or ~3% of EU demand).

### European Countries Still Importing Russian Oil
Only **Hungary** and **Slovakia** continue to import Russian crude oil directly via pipeline. These imports are legally permitted under EU exemptions, but both countries have increased reliance since 2022 (Hungary from 61% to 86% of its crude from Russia; Slovakia remains ~100% dependent). No other European countries (EU or non-EU) are reported to have significant direct imports of Russian crude in 2025.

| Country | Import Method | Estimated Volume (2025) | Notes |
|-----------|---------------|--------------------------|-------|
| **Hungary** | Druzhba pipeline | ~100,000–125,000 bpd | Accounts for ~86% of Hungary's crude needs; refineries optimized for Urals-grade oil. Recent deals aim to reduce reliance by 1% annually, but progress is slow. |
| **Slovakia** | Druzhba pipeline | ~100,000–125,000 bpd | Near-total dependence; diversification plans target 60% non-Russian by end-2025, but full cutoff risks shortages and higher prices. |

- **Turkey** (a non-EU European country and NATO member) is a major importer of Russian oil (~6% of Russia's crude exports in 2025), valued at ~€62 billion since 2023. However, it refines and re-exports much of this as products to the EU, rather than direct crude imports by other Europeans.
- **Indirect imports**: Some EU countries (e.g., Belgium, France, Spain) import refined oil products potentially derived from Russian crude via third countries like India and Turkey, estimated at €9 billion in 2024. These are not direct "Russian oil" purchases but circumvent sanctions.

### Broader Context and Future Outlook
- **Economic Impact**: These imports fund ~€2–3 billion annually for Russia from the EU, down from €16 billion pre-invasion. Full enforcement of the G7 price cap ($60/barrel) could cut this further.
- **Diversification Efforts**: The EU's REPowerEU plan supports alternatives from the U.S. (up 6% in 2024), Norway, and Africa. Hungary and Slovakia face proposed tariffs on Russian oil to force faster shifts.
- **Geopolitical Pressure**: Trump's demands for NATO allies to end all Russian energy buys by late 2025 could accelerate the phase-out, though Hungary's Viktor Orbán and Slovakia's Robert Fico have resisted, citing energy security.

Sources confirm no changes as of October 2025; the situation remains static pending new EU sanctions.
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I've asked that question in this thread several times, glad I got an AI bot to answer it.

Didn't read the bots post.
 
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BeardedVol said:
oilprice.com

Russia to Import Gasoline from Asia as Drone Hits Cripple Refineries | OilPrice.com

Russia’s government plans to boost fuel imports from Belarus and import gasoline from China, Singapore, and South Korea to address falling domestic output and gasoline shortages in several regions
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So switch to hitting storage facilities.

he's already having to supplement his fuel with outside sources, that's costs him money he doesn't have. Blow that up and he's back to square one.


The problem is as His economy has started to bog down he's gotten aggressive. How far will he go?
 
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France detains Russian ‘shadow’ tanker to disrupt war in Ukraine
Moscow has called France’s detention of the ship, and arrest of the captain, an act of piracy.
 
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hog88 said:
I've asked that question in this thread several times, glad I got an AI bot to answer it.

Didn't read the bots post.
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AI generators tend to hallucinate and tell you what you want to hear. This query reported that Europe imported on 3% of its crude, which is accurate. It also noted that it was reliant on refined imports from India and Turkey, which gets its oil from ... Russia, which makes sense because Europe has very little refining capacity.

The bot post missed the point that Europe still gets about 65 to 70% of its natural gas from Russia.

Trump has to wean Europe off of refined products that are made from Russian oil and LNG from Russia. .
 
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Russian oil refinery in Orsk, Orenburg region, is currently under drone attack. Orsk oil refinery has a capacity of 6,6mln tons of oil per year. And is located around 1500km from the frontline.​


Edit: This refinery normally produces about 90,000 barrels per day.

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KB5252 said:
So switch to hitting storage facilities.

he's already having to supplement his fuel with outside sources, that's costs him money he doesn't have. Blow that up and he's back to square one.


The problem is as His economy has started to bog down he's gotten aggressive. How far will he go?
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That is my question as well.
 
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FortSanders said:
AI generators tend to hallucinate and tell you what you want to hear. This query reported that Europe imported on 3% of its crude, which is accurate. It also noted that it was reliant on refined imports from India and Turkey, which gets its oil from ... Russia, which makes sense because Europe has very little refining capacity.

The bot post missed the point that Europe still gets about 65 to 70% of its natural gas from Russia.

Trump has to wean Europe off of refined products that are made from Russian oil and LNG from Russia. .
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The bots on the forum told me that this was about sovereignty, yet your post implies these countries really aren't sovereign.

I am actually confused by your whole post, as your said in your very first post that really Russia has nothing to demand.

War in Ukraine

It would seem like to me, that the bots are at war.
 
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Kstovo Oil Refinery, also known as Lukoil-Nizhegorodnefteorgsintez was targeted today. Kstovo oil refinery is the fourth largest Russian refinery with annual capacity 17mln tons. ~800km from the frontline.​

 
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McDad said:
Why does Ukraine need DJT to authorize?
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They’re using weapons we furnished for these authorized strikes. They don’t require any approvals for domestically produced weapons but if they use them to strike targets we don’t want them to and draw our ire it could impact future weapons allocations we provide.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
They’re using weapons we furnished for these authorized strikes. They don’t require any approvals for domestically produced weapons but if they use them to strike targets we don’t want them to and draw our ire it could impact future weapons allocations we provide.
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Thank you.

It's nice to see you post something of value for a change. 😎
 
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