President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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#42,951
Vol8188 said:
Providing them free healthcare doesn’t fix that. If anything it may worsen it.



Often self inflicted



Both directly (increased prices) and indirectly (increased funding of government programs to pay for their services).
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Without rereading the post, I think it mostly said that many uninsured people aren’t deterred by the prospect of a big hospital bill that they’re never going to pay.

Are you disagreeing with that?
 
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#42,953
Orange_Crush said:
You're not making any sense whatsoever. If societal "now" is morally right, why would you compromise to change it? It would be immoral.
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Please understand this.....and it is an incredibly OBVIOUS point.
Individuals do not share a common moral code.
 
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#42,957
McDad said:
Are you in another online fight that is based on a misunderstanding??? Are people misrepresenting your point, again??? This seems to happen to you a lot, Luther. Wonder why?
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The common reaction to uncomfortable truth.

Broadening perspective can be painful.
 
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#42,961
An aside, but,

Hospitals are fine paying for the non-payers.

1. The only way hospitals get to accept Medicare, whose beneficiaries provide a HUGE source of revenue to hospitals, is if they accept and provide emergency care regardless of ability to pay.

2. Hospitals get to write off all the “losses.” Helps pay for marble foyers and fountains in the gardens.

Most hospitals ain’t hurting.
 
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luthervol said:
Please understand this.....and it is an incredibly OBVIOUS point.
Individuals do not share a common moral code.
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You're still not making sense. You've claimed that society defines right and wrong. But you also say that society needs to morally improve. Your handwaving aside, it would seem that you need to reconcile that contradiction.
 
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#42,963
luthervol said:
The common reaction to uncomfortable truth.

Broadening perspective can be painful.
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It sure can. I think you're doing a swell job at it too, Champ.

I see people react the same to the president. He shares uncomfortable truth. Even has a social media platform called "truth social".

We need the pain yall bring. It's important.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
An aside, but,

Hospitals are fine paying for the non-payers.

1. The only way hospitals get to accept Medicare, whose beneficiaries provide a HUGE source of revenue to hospitals, is if they accept and provide emergency care regardless of ability to pay.

2. Hospitals get to write off all the “losses.” Helps pay for marble foyers and fountains in the gardens.

Most hospitals ain’t hurting.
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Ill have to ask McRib about your point #1. Ive never heard her mention it.

I do know for a fact, the government uses Medicare reimbursements as a puppet strings to control hospitals.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You're still not making sense. You've claimed that society defines right and wrong. But you also say that society needs to morally improve. Your handwaving aside, it would seem that you need to reconcile that contradiction.
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There is absolutely no contradiction whatsoever.
 
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#42,970
luthervol said:
Is it moral for a woman to show her breasts in public?
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It is not immoral. It may be socially unacceptable in certain places. But it is not immoral. No one has ever stated that there are no social preferences. It's an odd question to ask in this discussion.

A better question is:

Would it be immoral to rape and eat babies in a society that accepts raping and eating babies?
 
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#42,971
BeardedVol said:
You have to literally reinterpret Obama's words and apply meaning that doesn't exist in the actual text to justify Trump's actions, and you still wonder why people consider MAGA a cult.
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That’s where a lot of liberals live when it comes to Trump. Regardless of who does it, I find it entertaining. So and so didn’t say it but you KNOW what they meant.
 
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#42,972
Orange_Crush said:
There absolutely is, unless you've reduced morality to a meaningless concept. But that can't be since you conduct yourself here as though morality is anything but a meaningless concept.
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lol...We've yet again evidently reached an impasse.
 
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McDad said:
Ill have to ask McRib about your point #1. Ive never heard her mention it.

I do know for a fact, the government uses Medicare reimbursements as a puppet strings to control hospitals.
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Google EMTALA (Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act.). It applies to “participating hospitals,” which are defined as hospitals that participate in Medicare.

Save your conversation time with your bride to trying to get a little lovin’ - @LouderVol is getting tired of your advances.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Google EMTALA (Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act.). It applies to “participating hospitals,” which are defined as hospitals that participate in Medicare.

Save your conversation time with your bride to trying to get a little lovin’ - @LouderVol is getting tired of your advances.
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Thanks.
No convo or loving tonight. She's at her boyfriend's house.
 
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