Israel vs Palestinians II

[Orangeslice13]

Yes, post 2614 is a dishonest attempt at an explanation.

And doesn’t really say what he thinks it says

 

[McDad]

And doesn’t really say what he thinks it says

Did you find my summary of the article an honest summation?

 

[Smokey123]

Do I understand the reference to woke, right SM personalities?

Is C Owens woke???

Candace Owen’s is batsh*t crazy

 

[Smokey123]

I think he’s just talking about their large deviation from stand right wing stances. For example Tucker supports UBI

He’s talking about the antisemitism among the right and combatting it, That’s why he referenced the reich

 

[McDad]

Candace Owen’s is batsh*t crazy

The phrase is interesting. Wonder about its etymology?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Don't forget Bibi backed Hamas, too.

Yes Israel supported the elected government of Gaza that then attacked Israel.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Did you find my summary of the article an honest summation?

Yes.
Close enough.
The “facts” of the article are in dispute and they have made admissions of some of them at the bottom of the article…..but yes your summary of the article was correct.
But honesty has never been a problem for you.

 

[McDad]

But honesty has never been a problem for you.

How dare you!

You take that back right now!!! Honesty has no place here.

 

[Orangeslice13]

How dare you!

You take that back right now!!!

You’re honest but not very intelligent as evidenced by your habit of stopping at Buccees.


Better?

 

[McDad]

You’re honest but not very intelligent as evidenced by your habit of stopping at Buccees.


Better?

I guess.

Thanks.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I guess.

Thanks.

Just trying to be a blessing to those around me……you know the rest.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Says the guy who's scared of coal miners.

Coal miners? Who’s scared of coal miners

 

[Vol8188]

I’ll take saving the thousands of Americans and the 10’s of billions maybe even hundreds of billions wasted

If we are working under the decision we get to simply make one change in history, you could achieve the same result by simply having Clinton take Bin Laden out.

And you still get to weaken Russian influence

 

[OrangeTsar]

Ya and that was a terrible decision

In hindsight, yes. But at the time, at The height of the Cold War; things looked totally different. Any chance to make life difficult for the Soviets was not going to be overlooked by any American leader

 

[Smokey123]

If we are working under the decision we get to simply make one change in history, you could achieve the same result by simply having Clinton take Bin Laden out.

And you still get to weaken Russian influence

No you don’t. We were sending them hundreds of millions yearly before Clinton. Arming, funding and training extremists is ignorant and always will be

 

[Smokey123]

In hindsight, yes. But at the time, at The height of the Cold War; things looked totally different. Any chance to make life difficult for the Soviets was not going to be overlooked by any American leader

Can’t be short sighted when you’re the leader of a country

 

[Vol8188]

No you don’t. We were sending them hundreds of millions yearly before Clinton. Arming, funding and training extremists is ignorant and always will be

Reality isn’t as black and white as you’re pretending it is. Limiting the power of Russia matters.

 

[Vol8188]

Can’t be short sighted when you’re the leader of a country

You only get the luxury of proclaiming it was short sighted because you’re living in a reality with a significantly weaker Russia.

 

[Smokey123]

Reality isn’t as black and white as you’re pretending it is. Limiting the power of Russia matters.

Im not making it black and white. You said simply taking out bin Laden achieves the same result. That’s over simplifying it and not true. Limiting Russia by sending hundreds of billions to jihadis that results in thousands of US deaths and endless wars. Yup great decision

 

[Smokey123]

You only get the luxury of proclaiming it was short sighted because you’re living in a reality with a significantly weaker Russia.

Yup instead we live in the reality of dead Americans, billions wasted and endless wars.

 

[Vol8188]

Im not making it black and white. You said simply taking out bin Laden achieves the same result. That’s over simplifying it and not true. Limiting Russia by sending hundreds of billions to jihadis that results in thousands of US deaths and endless wars. Yup great decision

Hard to make a more black and white statement than this and then immediately proclaim you’re not.

Arming, funding and training extremists is ignorant and always will be

We didn’t spend 100s of billions. That’s simply false

 

[MAD]

You clearly copy and pasted the quote from a source. Could you provide us the source?

Found it

White House Insiders Rip Netanyahu’s ‘Bizarre Obsession’ With the ‘Woke Right’: ‘Stop Talking About Tucker!’

White House insiders let loose their growing irritation at Netanyahu’s “bizarre obsession” with critical voices on the MAGA “woke right.”

www.mediaite.com

 

[Vol8188]

Found it

White House Insiders Rip Netanyahu’s ‘Bizarre Obsession’ With the ‘Woke Right’: ‘Stop Talking About Tucker!’

White House insiders let loose their growing irritation at Netanyahu’s “bizarre obsession” with critical voices on the MAGA “woke right.”

www.mediaite.com

Of course it would be an absurd article about his personal savior Tucker Carlson.

 

[EasternVol]

Yes, post 2614 is a dishonest attempt at an explanation.

No, the facts there are confirmed. Israel's blockade, destruction of infrastructure, etc. made real economic development nigh impossible.

 

[EasternVol]

I went back. Nothing in your post provided anything. So I read the linked article.
See if this bullet point summary is honest for you:

• PA takes over governance in 2005 after Israel pulls out 9,000 settlers.
• Hamas clashes with Palestinian leaders.
• Hamas takes control in 2006. No elections since.
• Hamas is backed by Iran (money, weapons, etc)
• Israel enacted blockade in 2007. Egypt also enforces. Many international groups are critical.
• Palestinians are basically split on who should govern between PA and Hamas. Support waxes / wants depending on critical events.
• The blockade has devastated Gaza economy, opportunity.
• Israel's control of movement in/out of Gaza is extremely restricted.

My post answered the question along with information in the link.
"Israel controls imports, exports, airspace, offshore resources, movement of people, etc."
I'd change the last word to restricting from restricted. Otherwise I guess those points were in the article.