Israel vs Palestinians II

[hog88]

So why hasn’t Hamas accepted the deal yet? This is the best offer they will get

Because they don't want peace.

 

[McDad]

They are not capable is self government in Gaza. They became more dependent on the people of Israel in that time and then attacked the people they depend on for survival

That's an indicting track record.

 

[EasternVol]

That's an indicting track record.

If only it was an honest assessment.

 

[hog88]

If only it was an honest assessment.

How is it dishonest?

 

[Rickyvol77]

I'm sure they all think you're swell too.

I don’t care what low IQ cavemen who have sex with kids and goats and worship pedophile murderer slavers think though

 

[Rickyvol77]

That's an indicting track record.

Hamas will never accept peace with Israel and “Palestine” will never accept Israel’s existence even as a separate country. So thus this only ends one way

 

[Orangeslice13]

How is it dishonest?

It’s not.
It’s a fact of history
Hell, Bengi even gave them money

 

[EasternVol]

How is it dishonest?

And I thought I had a short attention span. Post 2614 refers.

 

[EasternVol]

I don’t care what low IQ cavemen who have sex with kids and goats and worship pedophile murderer slavers think though

Says the guy who's scared of coal miners.

 

[hog88]

And I thought I had a short attention span. Post 2614 refers.

Yes, post 2614 is a dishonest attempt at an explanation.

 

[McDad]

And I thought I had a short attention span. Post 2614 refers.

I went back. Nothing in your post provided anything. So I read the linked article.
See if this bullet point summary is honest for you:

• PA takes over governance in 2005 after Israel pulls out 9,000 settlers.
• Hamas clashes with Palestinian leaders.
• Hamas takes control in 2006. No elections since.
• Hamas is backed by Iran (money, weapons, etc)
• Israel enacted blockade in 2007. Egypt also enforces. Many international groups are critical.
• Palestinians are basically split on who should govern between PA and Hamas. Support waxes / wants depending on critical events.
• The blockade has devastated Gaza economy, opportunity.
• Israel's control of movement in/out of Gaza is extremely restricted.

 

[MAD]

5 Reasons countries are rushing to back the Trump plan.

 

[Smokey123]

I am not aware. In what context was he speaking? A way of men and armaments? A war for the hearts and minds? A war of propaganda?

 

[n_huffhines]

I went back. Nothing in your post provided anything. So I read the linked article.
See if this bullet point summary is honest for you:

• PA takes over governance in 2005 after Israel pulls out 9,000 settlers.
• Hamas clashes with Palestinian leaders.
• Hamas takes control in 2006. No elections since.
• Hamas is backed by Iran (money, weapons, etc)
• Israel enacted blockade in 2007. Egypt also enforces. Many international groups are critical.
• Palestinians are basically split on who should govern between PA and Hamas. Support waxes / wants depending on critical events.
• The blockade has devastated Gaza economy, opportunity.
• Israel's control of movement in/out of Gaza is extremely restricted.

Don't forget Bibi backed Hamas, too.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Don't forget Bibi backed Hamas, too.

And the US once backed the Afghan mujahideen. International relations sometimes create strange bedfellows

 

[Vol8188]

Didn’t sound very scary as Butch is trying to proclaim.

But more importantly the source there is the same weird pro Russian Twitter bot that Ras used to share from daily

 

[Vol8188]

Tell me from where you began studying "the situation" and then a discussion can be had. Do you actually know how Israel was founded?

Can you enlighten the rest of us with how Israel was founded

 

[Smokey123]

And the US once backed the Afghan mujahideen. International relations sometimes create strange bedfellows

Ya and that was a terrible decision

 

[Vol8188]

“We have to fight with weapons that apply to the battlefield, and the most important ones are on social media,” he said, singling out X and TikTok. He then lashed out at what he called “the woke right — or the woke Reich,” dismissing them as “insane” and “lunatics.”

If Xi Jinping said this, everyone would be losing their minds. Whatever context it is- and he can lean back on saying he means via propaganda- it is highly out of place for a foreign leader to think he deserves the ability to go after American opinion in this way.

You clearly copy and pasted the quote from a source. Could you provide us the source?

 

[Vol8188]

Let me make sure I get the gist, here.

he wants to do battle on social media with woke conservatives???

As I typed that out, I scrunched my brow because that doesn't sound right.

If he had provided you the full comment it would’ve made more sense. He’s talking about Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and about the need to fight their narrative. His literal audience at the time was a group of social media influencers. So for anyone living in reality the message was obvious and clear.

 

[Vol8188]

Ya and that was a terrible decision

Even post 9/11 idk that it was. There’s too many variables to unpack to pretend we know exactly what would have happened. I think limiting Russian influence is a good thing and if Clinton would have taken out Biden, 9/11 likely never occurs.

 

[McDad]

If he had provided you the full comment it would’ve made more sense. He’s talking about Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and about the need to fight their narrative. His literal audience at the time was a group of social media influencers. So far anyone living in reality the message was obvious and clear.

Do I understand the reference to woke, right SM personalities?

Is C Owens woke???

 

[Vol8188]

Do I understand the reference to woke, right SM personalities?

Is C Owens woke???

I think he’s just talking about their large deviation from stand right wing stances. For example Tucker supports UBI

 

[Smokey123]

Even post 9/11 idk that it was. There’s too many variables to unpack to pretend we know exactly what would have happened. I think limiting Russian influence is a good thing and if Clinton would have taken out Biden, 9/11 likely never occurs.

I’ll take saving the thousands of Americans and the 10’s of billions maybe even hundreds of billions wasted

 

[McDad]

I think he’s just talking about their large deviation from stand right wing stances. For example Tucker supports UBI

Ok.