Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[85SugarVol]

Oh, I see what you're saying. Thanks for the distinction. See how not a big deal it is to try to get to the truth with me? I'm not trying to trick anybody. I just want the truth. I'll come back months after the fact and correct myself on something I was wrong about when nobody called me out. I just want good info.

But still, to wish it were an immigrant just so you can say it's not a Utahn. WTF. Nobody will care that it's a Utahn but an immigrant would set things off.

Bwaaaaa

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Would you disagree if I said the CRM expedited those things but they would have come to fruition naturally even without the CRM?

When naturally? It wouldn't have happened in the 1970s or 1980s. Maybe SOME by the 1990s. It's important to remember the fact they are a minority. Should have happened at the end of the Civil War. It was much too late by the 1960s

 

[85SugarVol]

The assertion being that Charlie Kirk wasn’t fascist enough? On a scale of 1 to Hitler he was only registering a Mussolini?

That what we’re going with here as the shooter’s rationale?

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

You asked if I were even alive in the 60s. I wasn’t, but I assume you made that statement because you were. If so, I would hope a man of your age would have matured enough to actually understand a nuanced argument rather than making these emotionally charged and disingenuous arguments based on statements you first intentionally took out of context and then intentionally seemed to misunderstand.

Nuanced argument?

You sure you know what that means? It's not just about context, it's about nuance of the context itself. Ex.: If Kirk would have applied specificity to a provision within the Civil Rights Act, then that would be a nuanced argument. X was speaking specifically about certain provisions of it so that's entirely different. The fact that Kirk has promoted the theory of Great Replacement adds to the radicalism. It's ok though. He was a good guy, albeit a bit misguided, but stuck to his own beliefs and gave young, right wing Christian conservatives a voice. His words shouldn't have gotten him killed. It's a tragedy and I pray for his wife and children.

Suggesting X and CK shared similar reflections a total lack of nuance to their comments

 

[Volanta]

I see the advantage for political elites to divide. Emotional "purchasing" of votes.

How does it benefit economic elites to foment division?

Good question. They benefit bc it’s all distraction. While we fight one another they rob us blind. And then you have ppl voting for their own demise bc they support a handful of cultural issues that they use as smoke screens to cover other nefarious unpopular policies. Like tax cuts for the rich.

 

[YankeeVol]

The assertion being that Charlie Kirk wasn’t fascist enough? On a scale of 1 to Hitler he was only registering a Mussolini?

That what we’re going with here as the shooter’s rationale?

He's not the only one lol

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Can’t speak for Christians but with Messianic Judaism the man is the head of the household.

That sounds great to be the man right?
Wellllllllll,
If I delegate a decision and it goes wrong then whose fault is it? It’s mine. The fault always falls on me …..every damn time.

We are called to love our wife’s like Messiah loves us. Messiah died for us. The wife of a true G-d fearing man is a good place to be. If anyone doesn’t believe me then ask the Ginger what she thinks when I am not around.

We believe every word of this. Also believe that any sin my kids committed before they reached the age of accountability is on MY tab as well as any sins committed in my home. Scripture says all of these things. A man is responsible for his home and family in the eyes of God and will be held to account.

Also what you said about a man loving his wife as Christ loves the Church and died for it is both true and a serious endeavor. Christ also lived his life in service TO the Church. We are called to serve God and serve our wives in a loving manner. Seems like you and Red have a great family man. Happy for you. I am just a sinner and have fallen short in all of these things from time to time. It takes a lot of work and patience. Good post Slice.

 

[volinbham]

The assertion being that Charlie Kirk wasn’t fascist enough? On a scale of 1 to Hitler he was only registering a Mussolini?

That what we’re going with here as the shooter’s rationale?

on one hand, CK was a notorious hate monger; otoh, he was a puss at being a hate monger. makes sense

 

[McDad]

When naturally? It wouldn't have happened in the 1970s or 1980s. Maybe SOME by the 1990s. It's important to remember the fact they are a minority. Should have happened at the end of the Civil War. It was much too late by the 1960s

I don't know, when. Would be very difficult to predict. I think mid to late 80s is reasonable. My rationale is that is when the political shift took place in the south.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

That's not the point you dolt.

That info is FALSE.

What are you referring to exactly

 

[McDad]

Good question. They benefit bc it’s all distraction. While we fight one another they rob us blind. And then you have ppl voting for their own demise bc they support a handful of cultural issues that they use as smoke screens to cover other nefarious unpopular policies. Like tax cuts for the rich.

Is there an example of an economic elite "robbing us blind" while we are distracted?

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

The assertion being that Charlie Kirk wasn’t fascist enough? On a scale of 1 to Hitler he was only registering a Mussolini?

That what we’re going with here as the shooter’s rationale?

Just read this. Or stay willfully ignorant. I don't really care.

Groypers, Helldivers 2, Furries: What Do the Messages Left by Charlie Kirk’s Alleged Killer Actually Mean?

Suspect Tyler Robinson allegedly inscribed messages on bullet casings that reference video games and internet culture—but they hardly point toward a coherent ideology.

www.vanityfair.com

 

[StarRaider]

He's not the only one lol

so the leftists/marxists think CK got what he deserved for being a fascist & the ultimate maga fascist assassin killed CK for not being fascist enough.... got it

 

[85SugarVol]

He's not the only one lol

He’s not that bright, and easily led.

EL doesn’t actually believe it, she’s just trolling. K-Town is absolutely buying it.

 

[ETV]

BREAKING NEWS!!!
K-town Vol Fan admits celebrating Kirk's death!!!


See how taking a few words from your sentence stating you are in fact not celebrating can change the entire outlook? Quit cherry picking words someone said from an entire conversation to fit a narrative you, not the person who said them, wants.

I'm waiting for the next round of posts from the resident liberal spin masters, mocking Kirk's widow and her remarks.

 

[YankeeVol]

so the leftists/marxists think CK got what he deserved for being a fascist & the ultimate maga fascist assassin killed CK for not being fascist enough.... got it

Yes

 

[85SugarVol]

Just read this. Or stay willfully ignorant. I don't really care.

Groypers, Helldivers 2, Furries: What Do the Messages Left by Charlie Kirk’s Alleged Killer Actually Mean?

Suspect Tyler Robinson allegedly inscribed messages on bullet casings that reference video games and internet culture—but they hardly point toward a coherent ideology.

www.vanityfair.com

What does any of that have to do with the “news” you bought hook, line, and sinker?

 

[Vol8188]

Nuanced argument?

I’m genuinely sorry that you’re incapable of understanding.

 

[volinbham]

Just read this. Or stay willfully ignorant. I don't really care.

Groypers, Helldivers 2, Furries: What Do the Messages Left by Charlie Kirk’s Alleged Killer Actually Mean?

Suspect Tyler Robinson allegedly inscribed messages on bullet casings that reference video games and internet culture—but they hardly point toward a coherent ideology.

www.vanityfair.com

okay I'll try to walk through this. you posted something from David Shuster that claimed the cops and interviews with the family that the shooter was far right of Kirk. notice he mentions no source for this; provides no link and there is no reporting out there apart from him that this is true.

your Groyper theory is grounded in this

"A Facebook photo in which Robinson appears to reference a Groyper meme has led to early speculation that Kirk’s killing may have been an outgrowth of these intra-far-right skirmishes. "

Even the article you posted says this is inconclusive.

meanwhile reporting has come out that people that knew him said he had shifted left and became increasingly political (to the left) - I posted an article from the Guardian (hardly a right wing rag) with such information.

you are being duped.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I don't know, when. Would be very difficult to predict. I think mid to late 80s is reasonable. My rationale is that is when the political shift took place in the south.

IT happening naturally would have created timing gaps between the elements of the CRA

 

[apevol]

It’s really sad that the recently fired lunatics will now be door dashing and waiting tables. They get the benefit of no tax on tips.

it sucks cuz itll mean more no shows or 45 minutes late on my surf n turf delivery

 

[volinbham]

this incident is going to hurt the employment #s next month

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

okay I'll try to walk through this. you posted something from David Shuster that claimed the cops and interviews with the family that the shooter was far right of Kirk. notice he mentions no source for this; provides no link and there is no reporting out there apart from him that this is true.

your Groyper theory is grounded in this

"A Facebook photo in which Robinson appears to reference a Groyper meme has led to early speculation that Kirk’s killing may have been an outgrowth of these intra-far-right skirmishes. "

Even the article you posted says this is inconclusive.

meanwhile reporting has come out that people that knew him said he had shifted left and became increasingly political (to the left) - I posted an article from the Guardian (hardly a right wing rag) with such information.

you are being duped.

okay I'll try to walk through this. you posted something from David Shuster that claimed the cops and interviews with the family that the shooter was far right of Kirk. notice he mentions no source for this; provides no link and there is no reporting out there apart from him that this is true.

your Groyper theory is grounded in this

"A Facebook photo in which Robinson appears to reference a Groyper meme has led to early speculation that Kirk’s killing may have been an outgrowth of these intra-far-right skirmishes. "

Even the article you posted says this is inconclusive.

meanwhile reporting has come out that people that knew him said he had shifted left and became increasingly political (to the left) - I posted an article from the Guardian (hardly a right wing rag) with such information.

you are being duped.

So you believe he was raised conservative country boy, his entire family was Republicans, he goes to college (at one of the most conservative schools in one of the most conservative states in the country) for 1 semester, less than 6 months, and comes out radical left? That's more likely than becoming more radical right? I mean I get you really want it to be true, but the odds don't look great.

Either way, me and you are going my side vs your side is what caused all this ****. I hate politics. I hate its become this WWE reality BS I want my wrestler and faction to win at all costs. I wish we could all just be Americans with minor disagreements again.

We're all Americans, we all love the Vols, I would have a beer with any one y'all irl because of those 2 things.

 

[StarRaider]

it sucks cuz itll mean more no shows or 45 minutes late on my surf n turf delivery

biden would encourage them to learn how to code

 

[McDad]

IT happening naturally would have created timing gaps between the elements of the CRA

Any thoughts on the impact of corporatism setting national policies and goods / services in regions coming from national companies?

I think those economic factors would have hastened the dynamic.