Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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lawgator1 said:
Clearly, however, a huge part of the problem is that so many people see only one point of view, and SM isn't set up to challenge that.

I will say as well, it seems to me that a lot of the problem is youth. They get so much of their news and opinion from social media that they have no perspective. Older people understand that there are other points of view and that they have been wrong in the past and so they are more tolerant of other points of view and willing to consider them. Young people today get amped up by that one point they see over and over.

How about tik tok or facebook.or whatever the hip ones are have their algorithms from time to time say, "Hey, consider this other view point. Make up your own mind, but be broadminded,."
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This is my responsibility as a parent. I don't expect a media company to raise my child to be mentally strong enough to consider other perspectives.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Not to mention a presidential candidate.... REPUBLICAN presidential candidate shot.

Guns are not the problem. Liberalism is the problem.
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Dude I’m not even a Democrat but you’re completely wrong.
  • The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.
  • The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter.
  • The man convicted of orchestrating shootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
  • The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, was a Trump supporter.
  • The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on January 6, 2021 were Trump supporters.
  • The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.
  • The men convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.
  • The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter.
  • The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.
  • Did we forget Jan. 6th and LEOs killed by Trump supporters?
Political violence happens on both sides. Please stop being delusional. We are all Americans.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Thank you for a decent non insulting response.

You're 100% correct Jesus didn't command the govt anything.

But he didn't command I contribute to corporate bailouts so CEOs could collect record bonuses. Nor did he command I contribute to killing innocent children in Gaza.
Thar I help finance a tea garden for political gatherings.
The list of things I must contribute tax dollars to that I nor Jesus support is pretty long.
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I 1000% agree. Too much money wasted that the church (individuals) could use to feed the hungry and clothed the poor.

This is the reason why the government should receive less tax dollars.

Give Jesus a few fish and a few loaves of bread then he can feed 5000.

Give the government 5000 fish and 5000 loaves of bread and they can feed a few.
 
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Volanta said:
Dude I’m not even a Democrat but you’re completely wrong.
  • The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.
  • The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter.
  • The man convicted of orchestrating shootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
  • The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, was a Trump supporter.
  • The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on January 6, 2021 were Trump supporters.
  • The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.
  • The men convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.
  • The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter.
  • The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.
  • Did we forget Jan. 6th and LEOs killed by Trump supporters?
Political violence happens on both sides. Please stop being delusional. We are all Americans.
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One of societies biggest problems is this belief "that your side hates America, your side are nazis etc."

It's dumb, false, and unproductive.
 
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I’m not going to wade through pages of posts, so sorry if this has already been addressed. But I’m floored that in 2025 people still think they’re insulated from consequences for what they post online. I can’t keep up with how many people have been fired today over their reactions to Kirk’s death yesterday.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I didn't justify it. I don't condone political violence. Charlie Kirk did. So does that Antifa kid in OP's video. I'm just pointing out that they are both doing the same thing, and each side's blindness to their versions of it is a huge part of the problem.
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**unless it’s aimed at random, no-name ICE agents

Somebody quote that at him. I’m curious as to his rationalization.
 
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Boston Vol said:
I’m not going to wade through pages of posts, so sorry if this has already been addressed. But I’m floored that in 2025 people still think they’re insulated from consequences for what they post online. I can’t keep up with how many people have been fired today over their reactions to Kirk’s death yesterday.
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It's nuts - how delusional do you have to be to think 1) the response is appropriate and 2) that people won't recognize you are a hate-filled lunatic and justifiably don't want to be affiliated with you.

That one comic book artist just had his/her/their/zehr work picked up by DC and poof, lost the deal for being an idiot
 
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Volanta said:
Dude I’m not even a Democrat but you’re completely wrong.
  • The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.
  • The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter.
  • The man convicted of orchestrating shootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
  • The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, was a Trump supporter.
  • The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on January 6, 2021 were Trump supporters.
  • The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.
  • The men convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.
  • The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter.
  • The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.
  • Did we forget Jan. 6th and LEOs killed by Trump supporters?
Political violence happens on both sides. Please stop being delusional. We are all Americans.
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2/3 of the PF:

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Volanta said:
Dude I’m not even a Democrat but you’re completely wrong.
  • The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.
  • The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter.
  • The man convicted of orchestrating shootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
  • The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, was a Trump supporter.
  • The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on January 6, 2021 were Trump supporters.
  • The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.
  • The men convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.
  • The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter.
  • The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.
  • Did we forget Jan. 6th and LEOs killed by Trump supporters?
Political violence happens on both sides. Please stop being delusional. We are all Americans.
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There are some major stretches in your provided talking points list.

Show me anything that ties the Minnesota shooter to Trump besides “claims”. Or the homeless drug addict who attacked the Pelosi’s. In all of the stated liberal attack cases the distinction is clear and intended. BTW, show me one conservative person who is ok with drug using homeless people roaming the streets just because they vote republican. Good grief.

You guys are so good at gaslighting you have completely gaslighted yourselves in the process. It’s amazing.
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
Curious….does anyone remember if there was a moment of silence at UT during a sporting event after GF’s death? If so, I would expect the same here for Charlie.
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I don't recall there being one, but keep in mind that several months had passed and the Mizzou game was the first "heavily-attended" sporting event in Tennessee after COVID-19 shut everything down. Lots of other stuff to focus on that weekend, though I believe part of the reason Pruitt was pushing black uniforms in 2020 was for BLM.
 
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Volanta said:
Dude I’m not even a Democrat but you’re completely wrong.
  • The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.
  • The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter.
  • The man convicted of orchestrating shootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
  • The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, was a Trump supporter.
  • The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on January 6, 2021 were Trump supporters.
  • The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.
  • The men convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.
  • The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter.
  • The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.
  • Did we forget Jan. 6th and LEOs killed by Trump supporters?
Political violence happens on both sides. Please stop being delusional. We are all Americans.
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I'm not finding the evidence the Shapiro attempt was a Trump supporter. He was registered but with no party affiliation. He made a few criticisms of Biden, was generally anti-government and made some posts criticizing both Republicans and Democrats.

What am I missing?
 
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