Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[hUTch2002]

I'm thinking through what I've seen of video. I saw a longer distance video and wish I hadn't. But the video of a prone sniper I've seen a few angles of. And while I don't agree this has to be a professional I immediately thought of two things.

That shooter knew about and had access to that roof, they knew where it would be set up. The fact they got away seems to indicate they were familiar and had a plan for egress. Makes me think likely current or former student or employee.

I don't think it was a professional because it's obvious to me they were likely aiming for the head, a professional would always go for the center of mass, just as a hunter would.

Just my thoughts.

Is that from your time as a hitman?

 

[The_Big_Orange]

Okay, now do school children gunned down in the classroom

I hope your karma finds you very soon.

 

[rekinhavoc]

I'm thinking through what I've seen of video. I saw a longer distance video and wish I hadn't. But the video of a prone sniper I've seen a few angles of. And while I don't agree this has to be a professional I immediately thought of two things.

That shooter knew about and had access to that roof, they knew where it would be set up. The fact they got away seems to indicate they were familiar and had a plan for egress. Makes me think likely current or former student or employee.

I don't think it was a professional because it's obvious to me they were likely aiming for the head, a professional would always go for the center of mass, just as a hunter would.

Just my thoughts.

Shooter had a plan. Escaped in the confusion. Hopefully they captured that person on a camera fleeing.

 

[luthervol]

The hate and division was stoked well before el Trumpo came on the scene.

trump was the proverbial stepping across the line in the sand.......and I think everyone knew that, which makes it worse.

 

[Adam2014]

Perhaps it was not a good idea for the FBI Director to tweet out "The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody" before the FBI had interviewed the suspect... but what do I know? The "suspect" was release one hour later... and the perpetrator is still at large.

 

[MSUDuo]

You can pray and call for change at the same time

You can mourn and speak up at the same time

Some things do not have to be mutually exclusive

Both sides need to take a chill pill

The rhetoric coming from both sides is atrocious

Lest anyone forget, whatever side you think you’re on, you were in the exact opposite position that you’re in, in this moment, just a few months ago

If you wonder what’s wrong with our country, this cesspool of a thread is it.

The fence has been broken a long time and no one wants even try and fix it

 

[OHvol40]

The problem is it takes someone to make a gun kill. Y'all want to blame an object, yet never blame the cause. Democrats are all over social media calling for violence, literally for violence. Nobody on the left will even acknowledge that, just blame guns, trump, the nra, etc. Whoever dhot him, probably wouldn't have had they not been influenced by someone. Any violence is wrong, any shooting is uncalled for (unless it's a guilty child predator), but nobody wants to address the real problem, just tge object. Look at places with gun bans, knife attacks, driving cars into crowds, evil influenced people will find a way. Until the influence stops, the violence won't. Not sure why people can't understand that.

Nobody with 2 brain cells to rub together blames an object. What is to blame is people treating gun ownership as right and forgetting that it is also a huge responsibility. Can’t have one without the other, and I can’t tolerate people who do not treat it as a serious responsibility.

I think those of us who are responsible gun owners are missing an opportunity to advocate and teach about firearm responsibility. The animosity shouldn’t be directed toward people who are fed up with gun violence, it should be directed toward irresponsible gun owners. That’s how I was raised, at least.

 

[Majors]

Again, where has the Democratic party called for political violence. Not randos, but party leaders and established left wing pundits.

Far and away, calls for political violence have come from the right.

You seem to be forgetting Chuck Schumer telling Justice Kavenaugh and Gorsuch at a rally “pay the price”.

A few days later a gunman was arrested at Kavenaughs house to kill him.

 

[EZE]

Seems you failed to read my post.

A question was asked and I answered it.

You're welcome to disagree with what I cut and pasted from Grok.com, but isn't my "free speech" precisely what you so eagerly defend? LOL. Honestly, I could care less about your silly self-righteousness.

You are absolutely free to say it.

And I am absolutely free to question it.

 

[mrMet]

 

[Majors]

The problem is it takes someone to make a gun kill. Y'all want to blame an object, yet never blame the cause. Democrats are all over social media calling for violence, literally for violence. Nobody on the left will even acknowledge that, just blame guns, trump, the nra, etc. Whoever dhot him, probably wouldn't have had they not been influenced by someone. Any violence is wrong, any shooting is uncalled for (unless it's a guilty child predator), but nobody wants to address the real problem, just tge object. Look at places with gun bans, knife attacks, driving cars into crowds, evil influenced people will find a way. Until the influence stops, the violence won't. Not sure why people can't understand that.

Ten+ years of liberals tolerating their own party/supporters to refer to the opposing party as fascist, racist, bigots, xenophobic etc. Media manipulation and a decade of MSM personalities allowed to recite lies and hate to their audience.

 

[mrMet]

You seem to be forgetting Chuck Schumer telling Justice Kavenaugh and Gorsuch at a rally “pay the price”.

A few days later a gunman was arrested at Kavenaughs house to kill him.

They don’t want the receipts to start flowing of their overlords. Heinous people in here

 

[appvol]

It's almost entirely crazy, dumbass liberal white women posting this crap.

Sounds like @evillawyer

 

[Carp]

Again, where has the Democratic party called for political violence. Not randos, but party leaders and established left wing pundits.

Far and away, calls for political violence have come from the right.

Incorrect.

Eat the Rich is literally a left wing mantra. The left has repeatedly called Trump and MAGA a "threat to democracy." They constantly have called Trump and his supporters Nazi's.

Antifa and BLM are far left organizations. Several left wing celebrities cheered when Trump was shot. I literally just watched a video where a reporter essentially said Kirk had it coming (and several left wingers are saying that, including people in this thread). You can hear TMZ team members cheering when the news announced that Kirk was dead.

But sure, calls for violence have totally come from the right side of the political spectrum.....

This entire left wing attitude of having the moral and intellectual high ground is precisely what has lead to these assassinations attempts over the last year.

 

[Tin Man]

Scalise states that America is many voices and we engage in public discourse and debate and choose our government by voting. There’s no place for violence in American public life, whatever your perspective.

The murder of Charlie Kirk is tragic and has many sorely aggrieved. However, the reactions that put blame on entire groups of Americans are misplaced and should be curtailed. Condemnation of any and all violence, restraint, and a focus on Charlie Kirk and his family are called for in this moment.

We don’t know who shot Charlie Kirk or what was the motive. As that is discovered, let the condemnation of the responsible party(s) not be spread to broader groups who have no direct culpability. As Charlie would say, prove me wrong.

Remember the murders in a South Carolina church? The murderous attack on a Sikh temple in Michigan? The attack on the Pittsburgh synagogue? The armed occupation of the Michigan state capitol? The plot to kidnap the Michigan governor? Or any of the other outrageous acts by people professing a “conservative” point of view? Did we condemn the Republican Party or conservative movements in America as a whole?

No, we did not.

Now is the time to be our best selves. Let our common voice be loudest in support for Charlie’s bereaved family and the best qualities of his character.

 

[Ritzwatch]

"Demonic forces from the gates of hell." Of course he uses "they." Now maybe he just means bad guys, but you and I both know he means Dems or the left or some other term for those with liberal views.

Based on what I have seen and read about Charlie Kirk, I believe he was referencing actual demonic forces from the gates of Hell, not Dems or the left here.

You may not believe in such, but Mr. Kirk most certainly did.

 

[MontyPython]

Perhaps it was not a good idea for the FBI Director to tweet out "The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody" before the FBI had interviewed the suspect... but what do I know? The "suspect" was release one hour later... and the perpetrator is still at large.

Elect a clown, expect a circus.

Just another day in Moronville.

 

[GroverCleveland]

trump was the proverbial stepping across the line in the sand.......and I think everyone knew that, which makes it worse.

So this is Trump's fault???

 

[mrMet]

the party of love and unity. Brain rot to the highest degree

 

[Orangeslice13]

Nobody with 2 brain cells to rub together blames an object. What is to blame is people treating gun ownership as right and forgetting that it is also a huge responsibility. Can’t have one without the other, and I can’t tolerate people who do not treat it as a serious responsibility.

Change the constitution or stfu.
The violence problem in this country and the apathy connected too it has jack **** to do with the tools used.
We had a woman murdered on a bus ….with a knife….and not a single person did anything to help.

Now talk to me about the huge responsibility of knife owners and knife control.



Give me a ****ing break

 

[swampfoxfan]

And all to be paid for with "other peoples money". Thats the Dimwit motto.

They also vehemently and publicly support:

Drive thru abortions (murder)
"Trans" nonsense. (Mutilation of kids)
And lots of other things God clearly is 100% against. There is no way to be a Christian and intellectually honest and vote Democrat. The Democrats are OPENLY anti-God and have been the party having Him and His Word removed from schools, government buildings, and anywhere else they are able. For you to even insinuate that the Democrat party is the party for moral Christians to vote for is absolutely insane. This thread isn't the place for it either. It has absolutely nothing to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

I only responded to maga claim of repugs being Christians. No such thing as drive thru abortion .

So now you support free health care,food stamps, housing assistance?

 

[MontyPython]

Ten+ years of liberals tolerating their own party/supporters to refer to the opposing party as fascist, racist, bigots, xenophobic etc. Media manipulation and a decade of MSM personalities allowed to recite lies and hate to their audience.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I only responded to maga claim of repugs being Christians. No such thing as drive thru abortion .

So now you support free health care,food stamps, housing assistance?

Free?
Nothing is free.
Anyone telling you otherwise is selling lies

 

[dalton_vol]

### Historical Examples of Conservatives Shooting Liberal Speakers at Events

Based on documented cases of political violence in U.S. history, below is a list of instances where individuals with conservative or right-wing ideologies shot liberal or left-leaning speakers or politicians during public events, speeches, or meetings. These are drawn from verified historical records and focus on assassinations or attempts that occurred while the target was engaging in public discourse (e.g., rallies, town halls, or speeches). Note that "conservative" here refers to the perpetrator's stated or evident motivations, such as opposition to civil rights, progressive reforms, or left-wing policies. The list is not exhaustive but highlights notable cases.

| Perpetrator | Ideology/Motivation | Target | Event Details | Outcome |
|-------------|---------------------|--------|---------------|---------|
| **John Wilkes Booth** | Confederate sympathizer and white supremacist; opposed Lincoln's policies on abolition and Reconstruction. | **Abraham Lincoln** (Republican president, seen as liberal for his anti-slavery stance). | Shot Lincoln during a speech at Ford's Theatre in Washington, D.C., on April 14, 1865. | Lincoln died the next day; Booth fled and was killed. |

| **Charles J. Guiteau** | Disaffected office-seeker with conservative religious and anti-reform views; believed Garfield's administration betrayed Stalwart Republicans (a conservative faction). | **James A. Garfield** (Republican president, moderate progressive on civil service reform). | Shot Garfield at a Washington, D.C., train station after a public event on July 2, 1881. | Garfield died two months later from infection; Guiteau was executed. |

| **Leon Czolgosz** | Anarchist with right-wing populist leanings against industrialization and immigrant labor (influenced by conservative anti-elite sentiments). | **William McKinley** (Republican president, pro-business conservative, but targeted for perceived liberal economic policies favoring workers). | Shot McKinley during a public reception at the Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo, NY, on September 6, 1901. | McKinley died eight days later; Czolgosz was executed. |

| **Giuseppe Zangara** | Italian immigrant with anti-immigrant, conservative economic grievances; hated Roosevelt's progressive New Deal ideas. | **Franklin D. Roosevelt** (Democratic president, liberal icon of the New Deal). | Fired at Roosevelt during a public speech from an open car in Miami, FL, on February 15, 1933. | Missed Roosevelt but killed Chicago Mayor Anton Cermak; Zangara was executed. |
| **James Earl Ray** | Segregationist and white supremacist (right-wing racist ideology); opposed King's civil rights activism. | **Martin Luther King Jr.** (Civil rights leader and liberal activist). | Shot King while he was on the balcony after a public event (speech preparation) at the Lorraine Motel in Memphis, TN, on April 4, 1968. | King died shortly after; Ray pleaded guilty and died in prison. |

| **Sirhan Sirhan** | Palestinian nationalist with conservative anti-Zionist views; opposed Kennedy's support for Israel. | **Robert F. Kennedy** (Democratic senator and presidential candidate, liberal on civil rights and social issues). | Shot Kennedy immediately after a campaign speech at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, CA, on June 5, 1968. | Kennedy died the next day; Sirhan is serving life in prison. |

| **Byron de la Beckwith** | White supremacist and KKK member (extreme right-wing ideology); targeted civil rights leaders. | **Medgar Evers** (NAACP field secretary, liberal civil rights activist). | Shot Evers in the driveway after he returned from a public integration rally in Jackson, MS, on June 12, 1963. | Evers died; Beckwith was convicted in 1994 and died in prison. |

### Notes
- **Context and Patterns**: These incidents often stemmed from opposition to progressive reforms like civil rights, economic populism, or social equality. Right-wing violence has historically targeted left-leaning figures perceived as threats to traditional hierarchies. Recent data (e.g., 2022-2024) shows right-wing extremists responsible for all 61 political killings in the U.S. during that period.
- **Exclusions**: Cases like the 2011 shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (by Jared Loughner, ideologically incoherent) or the 2022 attack on Paul Pelosi (by David DePape, right-wing conspiracist but not during a speaking event) were omitted as they don't precisely match "shooting a liberal speaker at an event."
- **Broader Trends**: Political violence is bipartisan but asymmetric; left-wing acts are less lethal and more property-focused, while right-wing acts often target individuals. For more on global or non-U.S. cases, see resources like the Wikipedia list of assassinations.

If you'd like expansions on any case, related attempts, or a focus on a specific era, let me know!

Looks like the third shift is here. Are you really this much of a clown?? going back to John Wilkes booth? Clown on

 

[Orangeslice13]

We actually had a pile of trash justifying this murder in this thread claiming the election of a political opponent was crossing some bull **** made up line in his mind.

That level of subhuman thought needs to stop