Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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n_huffhines said:
I did not like Kirk, but my heart sank today for America and for his family. This is not good at all. He didn't deserve it.

But if people in this thread are going to use his death to condemn how the left approaches discourse, then we have to have an honest conversation about Kirk, too. And nobody should ever confuse this for the idea that "he deserved it."
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It seems to me people in this thread are using his death to condemn murder.
 
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Smokey123 said:
For me personally; I’ve watched him for years not necessarily because I liked him or what he says but because of what he stood for. Open dialogue with people you disagree with, we’ve seen the dehumanizing and villainizing of people for a long time simply because they have different views and as a result we’re seeing people killed for it. 2 kids will grow up without a father because someone didn’t like his politics

That’s the main reason, but I also (sadly) watched the video and it made me sick to my stomach. My brother also used to work for TPUSA. We have to get to the root of the issue but this will only make things worse
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I made the right decision to not watch the video.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I did not like Kirk, but my heart sank today for America and for his family. This is not good at all. He didn't deserve it.

But if people in this thread are going to use his death to condemn how the left approaches discourse, then we have to have an honest conversation about Kirk, too. And nobody should ever confuse this for the idea that "he deserved it."
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i don't know enough about him to have that conversation. I think there is a problem with how the left in this country goes about public discourse. I think theres a problem with how the right in this very thread goes about discourse too.

If I were a Democrat, i would have opened this thread, read about 20 replies and said "**** all yall" and noped out
 
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Why are we still arguing and discussing anything with people who hate us? They are too far gone in their path of hatred to be reasoned with.

Dialogue is no longer possible. It’s time for organization and raw political power. Donate, volunteer, vote. Work hard until not a single democrat holds any office anywhere in the country. You can’t reason with madmen.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Hey, thanks for interjecting. I said TT's trying to start a race war over the actions of a mentally ill person. Which part of that is refuted by the idea that the guys said, "I killed a white woman?"
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Trying to start a race war....posting on VN?

Think about what you said for a minute.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Why are we still arguing and discussing anything with people who hate us? They are too far gone in their path of hatred to be reasoned with.

Dialogue is no longer possible. It’s time for organization and raw political power. Donate, volunteer, vote. Work hard until not a single democrat holds any office anywhere in the country. You can’t reason with madmen.
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Genius. Let the healing begin
 
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McDad said:
I made the right decision to not watch the video.
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The terrible thing is we won't be able to avoid it forever. I think it will be used maliciously by the degenerates in a sort of "Rick Roll" manner or it will just auto-play on some form of social media we scroll onto out of pure chance. I'm not looking forward to that day.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Why are we still arguing and discussing anything with people who hate us? They are too far gone in their path of hatred to be reasoned with.

Dialogue is no longer possible. It’s time for organization and raw political power. Donate, volunteer, vote. Work hard until not a single democrat holds any office anywhere in the country. You can’t reason with madmen.
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Oddly enough, the left is using the same argument today to convince their base of the same thing. Several of the lefty channels on XM were repeating the same thing, but with a more violent tone.
 
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I never heard Charlie ever say anything about "pushing this sort of hate speech"?
Just what is the sort of hate speech are you talking about? To Love God & Country?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Why are we still arguing and discussing anything with people who hate us? They are too far gone in their path of hatred to be reasoned with.

Dialogue is no longer possible. It’s time for organization and raw political power. Donate, volunteer, vote. Work hard until not a single democrat holds any office anywhere in the country. You can’t reason with madmen.
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Dialogue is never off the table. To claim that discussion is dead or not worth our time with those we disagree with spits on the very memory of the man who just passed. He embodied those ideals with his life. We cannot abandon growth, debate, and listening, because the will to engage in them is the bedrock of liberty itself.
 
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CobbWebb71 said:
Some of you people are sick!!
It’s almost as if you are defending this?
This thread reminds me of how stupidly and sheepishly people will blindly follow politics, right to the edge and over the cliff.
How disgusting some of you are and I don’t care if you’re democrat, republican or of this “offends” you.
People get murdered and it’s left wing this, right wing that...
Some of you need to step away from the political BS for a minute and actually try to become human again and have some damn sympathy for your fellow man, politics be damned!
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Straight facts! Preach brother!
 
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apevol said:
I've got a lot of hate in my heart, and there are indeed some who i would celebrate their deaths. But not like this. Not political ********.

There isn't anyone on this forum i hold any hate for, and though I might think this person or that person is an idiot, I like most everyone here in a we're all vols {even lg (you cant be here this long if you aint in the vols closet)}

I left Tennessee a decade ago for the Mid-Atlantic and this forum is kind of like my Mayberry, making me feel some connection still to where I was born. The political climate here kinda stinks bad enough(I dont mean its too far left or too far right, I mean its just so much finger pointing and link spamming and "these people here are always bad"!) that sometimes I consider leaving, but football season starts and it always brings me back.
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Don't you ever leave us buddy.

You can pick your friends
You can pick your nose...
But you can't pick your family.

We are hillbilly cousins so don't run off. You might get lost up there in yankeeland.
 
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CubsFanTN said:
The terrible thing is we won't be able to avoid it forever. I think it will be used maliciously by the degenerates in a sort of "Rick Roll" manner or it will just auto-play on some form of social media we scroll onto out of pure chance. I'm not looking forward to that day.
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Possibly.
Ive never watched a taliban beheading video. Those faded out over time. Maybe this will, too
 
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